Land Rover Range Rover!

[CJ]

I just love this new Range Rover.  It's still a Range Rover and instantly recognizable as such.

[MrH]

I'm not just saying this because I like the XC60, but I think the interior quality is better compared to the Evoque.  The interior struck me as being not as nice at the XC60 sitting next to it at the Dallas auto show.  It's also less expensive, a bigger inside, and far more powerful.  That said, the Evoque looks fucking sexual.

[CJ]

Materials quality isn't as nice.  The Evoque didn't feel like a Range Rover should.

[MrH]

You want to try explaining what you mean by "materials quality"?

[CJ]

You want to try explaining what you mean by "materials quality"?

I felt that some of the plastics in the Evoque weren't as soft to the touch or rich as the XC60 which, by all accounts, does actually have a very nice interior. 

[MrH]

  What areas are you talking about?  I can't find anywhere in the XC60 that is considered soft touch that isn't leather wrapped in the Evoque.

[cawimmer430]

No, more like this:



My 5min gimping.    I think paint would have been enough. 

Aha. 

[Atomic]

  What areas are you talking about?  I can't find anywhere in the XC60 that is considered soft touch that isn't leather wrapped in the Evoque.

No too familiar with the Evoque, but I was astonished by the interior of my Volvo XC60.

[LonghornTX]

I love it, and 700lbs is ridiculous. Sign me up.

[AltinD]

The RR Sport is also pretty small inside.  My friend's dad had one, but traded it in for a full sized RR after a month or two.

Depend what you call small. A cousin of mine have one, and I have spent a total of 9 days inside, in two vacation trips we did this and last summer

A HSE diesel V6 none the less, no clutter, no black smoke, no noice, nothing. Just awesome.

[sportyaccordy]

Ford Explorer

420lb lost! That's almost 1000lbs! It is SERIOUSLY the Ford Explorer lol.

[AltinD]

The first ever two vehicles delivered to their (royal) buyers


http://www.arabianbusiness.com/sheikh-mohammed-receives-first-2013-range-rover-479834.html

[Colonel Cadillac]

If I had tons of money, I would absolutely order a new SC RR.

I have a running list of cars I would have if I had a few hundred million bucks, and the Range Rover is always on it

[AltinD]

it's a BIG change for them actually, both them have been G-class people for long. The Big guy has been using for a decade or so a G63 AMG custom built .... long before the G55 AMG would first come out.

Another thing I noticed, while the Big men's car is white, as his old Merc was, his son's iss light gray, just like his Merc was too

[TurboDan]

If I had tons of money, I would absolutely order a new SC RR.

I have a running list of cars I would have if I had a few hundred million bucks, and the Range Rover is always on it

Don't worry... you can get a Range for $25K in 4 years LOL

#BritishDepreciation

[Lebowski]

I've seen several of these on the road now ... It's growing on me, but still not as good looking as the outgoing model IMHO.

[CALL_911]

Everyone touts how classy the Range Rover is. Am I the only one who does not think this is the case? I think the LR4 is classy, but not the RR.

[Submariner]

Materials quality isn't as nice.  The Evoque didn't feel like a Range Rover should.

Yeah, you must be on drugs.

Everything about the Evoque feels a step or two above the XC 60.  I'm not saying the XC 60 isn't a good car, but the Evoque's build and materials is at least a notch or two above the Volvo.

Also, I briefly drove the new Range Rover yesterday.  My brief thoughts:

- I like it in white better than I thought I would, but I'm still not sure I like the sleeker, longer look over the previous model. 
- Superb inside.  It makes my moms Range Rover feel a bit cheap by comparison. 
- Not a fan of the 'slats' in the front door.  Along with an air suspension that allows for greater ride height, they relocated the air intakes allowing for greater fording depth making actual air vents on the door pointless.  I would have preferred fake intakes that looked real, or none at all. 
- Less body roll than before, and a greater sense of control.  It feels like a lifted XJ, not an SUV.  It's no sports car, though.

[Lebowski]

Everyone touts how classy the Range Rover is. Am I the only one who does not think this is the case? I think the LR4 is classy, but not the RR.

The LR4 has increasingly become my fav in their lineup. I like the RR though, and I really like the outgoing one. I think it's the most classy of the mega-expensive SUVs.

I think LR is making some major brand management mistakes with the Range Rover name, though. RR should be reserved to their top of the line. RR Sport, ok, a bit of a stretch but I'm ok with it.  But why does the Evoque need to be the "Range Rover Evoque"?  I think it's a big mistake, and a dangerous path to go down from a branding perspective.  The hood of the Evoque even says "Range Rover", give me a break it should say "Land Rover" like the LR4.

[Raza]

Everyone touts how classy the Range Rover is. Am I the only one who does not think this is the case? I think the LR4 is classy, but not the RR.

The new RR isn't classy anymore.  The old ones were.  Even the RR Sport is classy still.

[AltinD]

Who says the new RR isn't classy, hasn't seen one yet

[AltinD]

Yeah, you must be on drugs.

Everything about the Evoque feels a step or two above the XC 60.  I'm not saying the XC 60 isn't a good car, but the Evoque's build and materials is at least a notch or two above the Volvo.

I visited the Volvo showroom some times back and was horrified on how dated all their models were, and how crappy the build quality was, even on the S80. The XC90 looked like a late-90s car. WTF

[Submariner]

Who says the new RR isn't classy, hasn't seen one yet

Agreed - it looks much better in person than photos. 

Still, I think I like the outgoing model a bit more. 

[Madman]

I think LR is making some major brand management mistakes with the Range Rover name, though. RR should be reserved to their top of the line. RR Sport, ok, a bit of a stretch but I'm ok with it.  But why does the Evoque need to be the "Range Rover Evoque"?  I think it's a big mistake, and a dangerous path to go down from a branding perspective.  The hood of the Evoque even says "Range Rover", give me a break it should say "Land Rover" like the LR4.

The original plan was for the Evoque to be called a Land Rover but, at the last minute, they changed it to Range Rover so they could justify charging a higher price.

Marketing.  Gotta love it! 

[CALL_911]

I visited the Volvo showroom some times back and was horrified on how dated all their models were, and how crappy the build quality was, even on the S80. The XC90 looked like a late-90s car. WTF

Dated, fine. Build quality? They feel like fucking vaults.

[AltinD]

Dated, fine. Build quality? They feel like fucking vaults.

The doors are flimpsy, like the japanese, not vault-like as the Germans. things (i.e door hinges) are welded in pure view and just painted over without even smoothing, the headliner is not seccured, on the S80 you could just pull it loose with your fingers. I was scared from what I saw

[Madman]

Yep, Volvos aren't what they used to be.  Hence their falling sales and my current lack of enthusiasm for them.

How long before they go the way of Saab, I wonder?

[Lebowski]

The original plan was for the Evoque to be called a Land Rover but, at the last minute, they changed it to Range Rover so they could justify charging a higher price.

Marketing.  Gotta love it! 

The thing is it's still cheaper than an LR4, which is badged a LR.  It makes no sense, and it cheapens the real RR.

[CJ]

The doors are flimpsy, like the japanese, not vault-like as the Germans. things (i.e door hinges) are welded in pure view and just painted over without even smoothing, the headliner is not seccured, on the S80 you could just pull it loose with your fingers. I was scared from what I saw

I'm not sure you've ever actually been in a newer Volvo.  Flimsy doors?  Buddy, time to stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

[CJ]

Yep, Volvos aren't what they used to be.  Hence their falling sales and my current lack of enthusiasm for them.

How long before they go the way of Saab, I wonder?

Falling sales?  Have you seen the sales of the S60?  XC60?  They're doing much better in the hands of the Chinese.  Not what they used to be?  Of course not.  They're better.