Jaguar F-Type

Started by SVT666, September 19, 2012, 03:43:06 PM

Catman

Quote from: TBR on September 25, 2012, 05:25:06 PM
First, I love Jaguar's new design language as implemented on the sedans and the XJ. Second, this doesn't like a Jaguar at all to me.

Go away

Raza

Quote from: TBR on September 25, 2012, 05:25:06 PM
First, I love Jaguar's new design language as implemented on the sedans and the XJ. Second, this doesn't like a Jaguar at all to me.

Funny, I'm the opposite.  The XJ is hideous, the XF is passable, and the new XK looks like an radioactive fish.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

SVT32V

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I'm with Raza on this, the new design language seems to be an attempt to turn a once beautiful lineup into one only the designer's mother could love.

While the XF is passable it in no way distinguishes itself as an elegant jaguar, it reminds me of japanese luxury designs.

They can't even see fit to put a 3-D jag emblem on these things.

FoMoJo

Quote from: Raza  on September 25, 2012, 06:22:14 PM
Funny, I'm the opposite.  The XJ is hideous, the XF is passable, and the new XK looks like an radioactive fish.
I'm afraid I agree :(.  They all look like they were designed by KIA.  From some angles, they look great but the overall appearance is a bit chaotic.
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hotrodalex

Quote from: SVT32V on September 25, 2012, 07:54:37 PM
They can't even see fit to put a 3-D jag emblem on these things.

No one does that anymore, besides Rolls Royce and such.

2o6


hotrodalex

As weird as the c-pillar is on the XJ, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. The front end is great and the interior is amazing.

Give me a black XJL Supersport, please.

2o6

I don't understand how anyone can call them ugly or fussy or busy. They're some of the most conservative and restrained designs on the market.

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Raza

Quote from: 2o6 on September 25, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
I don't understand how anyone can call them ugly or fussy or busy. They're some of the most conservative and restrained designs on the market.

The XJ is disgusting.  Worst looking car in its class by miles. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

Onslaught

I'm not in love with the front bumper. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either. The one good thing is if you wait and pick up a used one you could pick one up for pocket change with the way Jaguar depreciates.

2o6

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=28134.msg1784640#msg1784640 date=1348657997
The XJ is disgusting.  Worst looking car in its class by miles. 

You're in the extreme minority. There's nothing there to be offensive.....it's a clean design (save for that D-piller).

Raza

Quote from: 2o6 on September 26, 2012, 05:54:40 AM
You're in the extreme minority. There's nothing there to be offensive.....it's a clean design (save for that D-piller).

The entire rear-end is vomit worthy.  That's like saying "That girl is sort of nice looking, but she has a rabid raccoon for an ass."

Not to mention it's a huge, hulking beast with a super high beltline and very little glass, and a design language that looks like it's been cobbled together from various Asian brands who are trying to be inoffensive.  It's neither recognizable as a Jaguar nor as anything else; it's a testament to the lack of taste of people with money. 

Of course, in its segment, appealing to people without taste and with money is an asset.  Most of the cars in the large luxury segment are vulgar and offensive, with only cars like the Quattroporte escaping the massiveness of newer designs and Audi pulling together cohesive design language to make it work. 

And before the cries "Oh you want Jaguars to look the same forever but no one was buying them!" start, Audi and Mercedes and BMW have updated their designs, but kept them recognizable as cars from their respective brands.  If Jaguar were going to start from a clean sheet, they should have done something pretty, rather than an ipecac alternative.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

SVT32V

Quote from: hotrodalex on September 25, 2012, 08:43:43 PM
No one does that anymore, besides Rolls Royce and such.

So, it is what made them different, why be like the crowd?




Catman

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=28134.msg1784640#msg1784640 date=1348657997
The XJ is disgusting.  Worst looking car in its class by miles. 

You must be blind

Raza

Quote from: Catman on September 26, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
You must be blind

You're just all sheep that think anything Top Gear tells you looks good actually does.  It's grotesque.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

2o6

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=28134.msg1784682#msg1784682 date=1348672943
You're just all sheep that think anything Top Gear tells you looks good actually does.  It's grotesque.


Not grotesque in the slightest.

SVT666

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=28134.msg1784682#msg1784682 date=1348672943
You're just all sheep that think anything Top Gear tells you looks good actually does.  It's grotesque.
Jeremy Clarkson thinks it's ugly.

Raza

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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

2o6

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=28134.msg1784687#msg1784687 date=1348673487
Substantially grotesque.

No.

Raza

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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

SVT666

Except for the D-Pillar there is absolutely nothing that's offensive about the XJ.

Raza

Quote from: SVT666 on September 26, 2012, 09:56:30 AM
Except for the D-Pillar there is absolutely nothing that's offensive about the XJ.

Including the D-Pillar there is absolutely everything that's offensive about the XJ.
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

SVT666

Quote from: Raza  link=topic=28134.msg1784708#msg1784708 date=1348675058
Including the D-Pillar there is absolutely everything that's offensive about the XJ.
You're crazy and blind.  Fact.

Onslaught

Guys, he thinks the porsche panamera looks good. So that tells you something.

Lebowski

Panamera is an abomination.

Raza

Quote from: SVT666 on September 26, 2012, 10:03:56 AM
You're crazy and blind.  Fact.

Quote from: Onslaught on September 26, 2012, 10:13:13 AM
Guys, he thinks the porsche panamera looks good. So that tells you something.

Quote from: Lebowski on September 26, 2012, 10:17:29 AM
Panamera is an abomination.

Blind sheep, the lot of you. 
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Quote from: the Teuton on October 05, 2009, 03:53:18 PMIt's impossible to argue with Raza. He wins. Period. End of discussion.

SVT666