Your next car?

[Laconian]

While sitting with the car idling in its designated parking spot, Dave extends one trembling finger towards the "DSC off" button. He hesitates, and then in a moment of pure, boundless exhillaration, he presses, and as the blood rushes to his extremities in a classic, primordial fight-or-flight respnse, he sees the amber glow of the DSC-off warning light, teasing him with the curling S-shapes emanating from the little glowing car icon.

In that moment: that little icon is his car, the instrument panel is his boundless black horizon, and those little s-shapes are his mark upon that bleak, unforgiving world.

Then, he exhales, presses it again, and watches the fantasy fade from view as he puts the car into drive.

[MrH]

Personally Dave, I wouldn't get a diesel.  There's so much promise when you stomp the throttle and you get such a wave of torque down low.  But then it just runs out of steam.  It's so anti-climatic to wring out that it kills it for me.

[Laconian]

The 335d makes 313hp, that's still a lot of steam. And 465 lb*ft, lawdddd..

[dazzleman]

The 335d makes 313hp, that's still a lot of steam. And 465 lb*ft, lawdddd..

I saw it listed as around 250 hp.  Where did you see 313hp?

[dazzleman]

Personally Dave, I wouldn't get a diesel.  There's so much promise when you stomp the throttle and you get such a wave of torque down low.  But then it just runs out of steam.  It's so anti-climatic to wring out that it kills it for me.

I'm going to test drive it and find out.  Thanks for the insight.

[dazzleman]

I blame Ron

Ron could get me in a lot of trouble.  That's why he's fun to hang out with.

[MrH]

The 335d makes 313hp, that's still a lot of steam. And 465 lb*ft, lawdddd..

Yeah.  I just like things to get more manic, louder, and faster the higher I go up in the revs.  Diesels feel all backwards to me.  Wouldn't mind something like that for a daily driver if I had a gas toy too.  But for my only car, give me the gas version.  Then you factor in the cost difference, and I'd definitely go gas over diesel.

[MrH]

I'm going to test drive it and find out.  Thanks for the insight.

Yeah, that's the best way to figure out what you like!

I vote for a new M5 or RS7.

[Laconian]

I saw it listed as around 250 hp.  Where did you see 313hp?

The power went up a *lot* over the last couple model years.

[280Z Turbo]

I don't even see 335d on the website.

[68_427]

Pretty sure the 335d won't exist anymore.  I think it's 330d now

[280Z Turbo]

Pretty sure the 335d won't exist anymore.  I think it's 330d now

I see 328d

[68_427]

That must be the one then.

[12,000 RPM]

Do you guys think I should consider a diesel?

No

Why do you want to be proletariat

[280Z Turbo]

Nowhere near 313 hp. Laconian is full of shit. I think he should ban himself for spreading lies.

[Soup DeVille]

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2000&zip=48309&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&maxPrice=10000&mmt=%5BBUICK%5BBUICKROAD%5B%5D%5D%5B%5DCHEV%5BCAP%5B%5D%5D%5B%5DOLDS%5B%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=BUICKROAD&makeCode2=CHEV&modelCode2=CAP&showcaseOwnerId=56436450&makeCode1=BUICK&startYear=1990&makeCode3=OLDS&searchRadius=0&bodyStyleCodes=WAGON&listingId=355719843&listingIndex=10&Log=0

New family Truckster?

[MrH]

My grandpa had that exact model.  I don't think my Dad realized what he had when he passed away.  Put it up for sale, and immediately a guy from Florida flew up and paid full asking price for it.

[68_427]

yup

[Rupert]

But you have to lower it with better wheels.

[Soup DeVille]

But you have to lower it with better wheels.

Well, yeah of course.

[280Z Turbo]

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2000&zip=48309&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&maxPrice=10000&mmt=%5BBUICK%5BBUICKROAD%5B%5D%5D%5B%5DCHEV%5BCAP%5B%5D%5D%5B%5DOLDS%5B%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=BUICKROAD&makeCode2=CHEV&modelCode2=CAP&showcaseOwnerId=56436450&makeCode1=BUICK&startYear=1990&makeCode3=OLDS&searchRadius=0&bodyStyleCodes=WAGON&listingId=355719843&listingIndex=10&Log=0

New family Truckster?

Terrible value for money, horrible gas mileage, and the less said about the handling, the better.

[Rupert]

Sounds like a yes to me!

[68_427]

Just gets some bags

[Soup DeVille]

Terrible value for money, horrible gas mileage, and the less said about the handling, the better.

Okay, find me something that handles for less than $10,000 AND can haul around four kids and all their shit. Its not happening. This isn't the car that handles.

This is the car that tows the car that handles.

[Soup DeVille]

But yeah, I can find one for a better price.

[Rupert]

Well, old 7-series...

[Soup DeVille]

And the mileage doesn't seem bad at all.

[Soup DeVille]

Well, old 7-series...

I forsee maintenance problems, and its still kind of short on space.

[280Z Turbo]

Stop spawning.

[Rupert]

Right, you have 50 kids...

5-series wagon?