W/o remorse I put these renderings out there

[sportyaccordy]

Working on a car and a bike. Here's where I am with the bike.

[2o6]

Good. I'd throw a subsurf modifier on there to make it look a little stronger, but that's just my style. No wrong or right way here.

[MrH]

Looks pretty good.  I like the styling.  I'm not seeing a frame in there though

[sportyaccordy]

No frame. Panigale style. Just basically bolt the headstock to the cylinder head. Save a good 10-20lbs. Make it CF, save another 10 or so lbs. Big weight on a ~400lb creature Just need to come up with whatever the situation is gonna be at the back end. Definitely gonna do some kind of parallelogram setup; just trying to figure out the prettiest way to mount the shock

The materials and edges are tricky. 2o6 is there anyway to give the materials a little more depth w/o extruding? Subsurf works great as does smooth rendering but I am looking to really nail the texture of the paint. Give it that nice gleaming almost wet paint look. Here's a model someone else did with awesome awesome texture/paint



See how his windshield has a little lip to it? That is the kind of depth I want to apply to the windscreen + fairing on mine.

[2o6]

I'm not all that strong on rendering; usually I export my stuff to Racer.

I'm not much help there, sorry.

[SVT666]

Looks good,  but the wheelbase looks about 6" too long.

[Raza]

It looks good, but I think it would be better if it had four seats and a roof.

[sportyaccordy]

Short tails are all the rage these days.



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Plus there's a lot still missing from the back end (suspension, brakes)

[sportyaccordy]

It looks good, but I think it would be better if it had four seats and a roof.

The car is coming. I will post where I am with that tonight.

[Raza]

The car is coming. I will post where I am with that tonight.

The car would look better if it were a 1+2 three seater with 7 doors, and power soft and hard top, AWD, two more seats, and weighed under 2200 pounds. 

[sportyaccordy]

To be fair the car is a culmination of my "wants". Pretty much what the Panamera should have been. 5 door hatchback, screaming W8 (2 close I4s), RWD, ~3500lbs

[sportyaccordy]

My save keeps fcking crashing. Here is as far as I've been able to get on the first pass. I love the jump in realism the new paint and material thickness gave the front fairing. Still not crazy about the seat though.



I want to start over again anyway from a different angle... build all the materials and take my time to make each piece meticulous.

[Atomic]

Starting over? I like what you did but sounds like you are having lots of fun. That's the point, eh? That and the final product. Sweet work, Sporty!

[sportyaccordy]

First two passes made me lol. Only problem is now I'm running a new more flexible engine and I'm running low on computing power

Anyways here's a quick rendering of effort #2



Added a windscreen

[SVT666]

Looks pretty sweet.

[Raza]

Looks pretty good.  What's the sidecar going to look like?

[SVT666]

The problem with bikes is that there is only so much you can do with that shape.  Every bike built in the last 10 years looks the same and you can't really differentiate them.

[sportyaccordy]

The problem with bikes is that there is only so much you can do with that shape.  Every bike built in the last 10 years looks the same and you can't really differentiate them.

One could say the same about cars. Its all about the details. The cool thing about bikes though is all the details are in the open. A car model is just the shell, windows, lights, wheels, brakes, tires and exhaust. Bikes have all that, as well as the suspension, controls etc. Next time you see a sportbike just try and take in all the details. Its like a race car w/no sheetmetal.

Plus while its true bikes are kind of limited in design by function, to a degree so are sports cars. Just like there's a clear diff from cars from different decades, there's differences in bikes. Its been like learning about cars all over again

[SVT666]

One could say the same about cars. Its all about the details. The cool thing about bikes though is all the details are in the open. A car model is just the shell, windows, lights, wheels, brakes, tires and exhaust. Bikes have all that, as well as the suspension, controls etc. Next time you see a sportbike just try and take in all the details. Its like a race car w/no sheetmetal.

Plus while its true bikes are kind of limited in design by function, to a degree so are sports cars. Just like there's a clear diff from cars from different decades, there's differences in bikes. Its been like learning about cars all over again

Yes and no.  Even casual observers can see a big difference between cars from today and 10 years ago, but not so with bikes.  I like bikes and I have a hard time.  There is so little material on a bike that there isn't much that can be done to differentiate them.  Cars are a lot easier.  Not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's true.

2003 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R



2012 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R

[sportyaccordy]

Thats kind of an unfair comparo, as the 03 636 was a huge move forward. I can't think of an an automotive analog as sportbike evolution has been pretty nutty over the last 20 years.

But compare that to the 2002 ZX6R, theres a few somewhat obvious differences to me.



02 is way more upright and has much less mass centralization. Look how big the tail is. Look how much higher the handlebars are. Look at the forks. I mean it is kind of subtle, but when you see the two bikes next to each other it becomes obvious.

Also the big diffs between Japanese + European bikes. The old adages about character ring even louder. A mid 90s Japanese sportbike looks wild but is kind of blah. A mid 90s Ducati looks downright exotic, even now. I mean look at the iconic 916



Vs some of the Japanese bikes from the same era







They look bulbous + visually heavier or just plain old

I mean my wife can't tell the diff between an E30 M3 and an old Accord... but you and me know the designs + cars are as different as night and day

[hotrodalex]

Junk.

[sportyaccordy]

Junk.

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[Cookie Monster]

Why are the exhausts on new sportbikes so hideous?



Nice work so far, sporty.

[sportyaccordy]

Why are the exhausts on new sportbikes so hideous?



Nice work so far, sporty.

Mass centralization.

Pretty much finished.

[2o6]

How'd you get that noise on your renderings? What are your settings?

[sportyaccordy]

I'm using the Cycles engine. You have to compromise between time and noise. That first rendering had about 40 samples; last two were like 150.

I like Cycles much better. The surface engine renders so much more cleanly and is easier to set up. I'm also picking up a lot of other stuff though. That first rendering makes me laugh whenever I see it lol.

[hotrodalex]

Why are the exhausts on new sportbikes so hideous?

Buell's exhausts are the best, IMO.

[2o6]

I'm using the Cycles engine. You have to compromise between time and noise. That first rendering had about 40 samples; last two were like 150.

I like Cycles much better. The surface engine renders so much more cleanly and is easier to set up. I'm also picking up a lot of other stuff though. That first rendering makes me laugh whenever I see it lol.

Golly, i started playing with cycles, it looks way better then Blender render.



Hows your car coming along?

[2o6]

I'm using the Cycles engine. You have to compromise between time and noise. That first rendering had about 40 samples; last two were like 150.

I like Cycles much better. The surface engine renders so much more cleanly and is easier to set up. I'm also picking up a lot of other stuff though. That first rendering makes me laugh whenever I see it lol.

Golly, i started playing with cycles, it looks way better then Blender render.



Hows your car coming along?

[sportyaccordy]

Golly, i started playing with cycles, it looks way better then Blender render.



Hows your car coming along?

I have to start from scratch on the car. For some reason I just can't get the topology right. Subsurf makes things like doors stop lining up. I might need to start from scratch again, with sketches