C7 Corvette

Started by Cookie Monster, December 29, 2012, 11:09:40 PM

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I would bet the corvette makes more average horsepower. That's the secret of a strong midrange. I would not be surprised if the Gran Sport were a little underrated too. Of the two I'd still rather have the Porsche
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Nah I don't think that's it.  The Vette probably out tires the GT3.  Same as the Z06, they mentioned that besides the one hot run, the others where a second or two off.  I don't know how consistent the GT3 was, but they made a point of mentioning it for the Vette.


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Quote from: Xer0 on September 14, 2016, 08:59:36 PM
Nah I don't think that's it.  The Vette probably out tires the GT3.  Same as the Z06, they mentioned that besides the one hot run, the others where a second or two off.  I don't know how consistent the GT3 was, but they made a point of mentioning it for the Vette.


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Both have Pilot Sport Cup 2s.  The GT3 RS size is 265/325 and the Corvette I believe is 285/335

Interesting that the one lap was a bit of an outlier.  :cheers:
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Quote from: 68_427 on September 14, 2016, 09:58:32 PM
Both have Pilot Sport Cup 2s.  The GT3 RS size is 265/325 and the Corvette I believe is 285/335

Interesting that the one lap was a bit of an outlier.  :cheers:

The Corvette tires are designated as "ZP".  I think its a Z06/Z07 specific tire, but I'm not sure what's different about it than your run of the mill Cup 2s.


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I was trying to look it up but all I could find is that the vette tires are runflats
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GS just beat the 991.2 C2S

Both really good cars but the GS was faster around Willow Springs and had more character

I would still get the 911.... thing hit 0-60 in 3.1s :mask:, looks better, and aurally 6>8 to me.... but I have to give respect where it's due, the C7 GS is the best Corvette of all time by a wide, wide margin
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The GS was probably on avg 4-5 mph faster at the apex on almost every corner.  That 911 boogies down the straights.  Gap would have been wider if it wasn't PDK equipped.

Damn that Porsche is aspirational though.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 05, 2016, 08:41:11 AM
GS just beat the 991.2 C2S

Both really good cars but the GS was faster around Willow Springs and had more character

I would still get the 911.... thing hit 0-60 in 3.1s :mask:, looks better, and aurally 6>8 to me.... but I have to give respect where it's due, the C7 GS is the best Corvette of all time by a wide, wide margin
I'd take a GS all day! And with the rest I saved by not buying the Porsche I'd buy a nice 4x4 for the winter months.....
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Sorry that compare was on Motor Trend... video will probably be up next Monday.

Quote from: 68_427 on October 05, 2016, 11:44:33 AM
The GS was probably on avg 4-5 mph faster at the apex on almost every corner.  That 911 boogies down the straights.  Gap would have been wider if it wasn't PDK equipped.

Damn that Porsche is aspirational though.

Do you know what tires the Porsche had on it? Doesn't look like Porsche makes any super hi po options available for the C2 which I guess makes sense
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68_427

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 07, 2016, 11:20:25 AM
Sorry that compare was on Motor Trend... video will probably be up next Monday.

Do you know what tires the Porsche had on it? Doesn't look like Porsche makes any super hi po options available for the C2 which I guess makes sense

Also consider the C2 was a second faster than the 991 GT3 as well.  You could watch the Porsche murder the Corvette in MPH down the straights
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Quote from: 68_427 on October 07, 2016, 12:53:42 PM
Also consider the C2 was a second faster than the 991 GT3 as well.  You could watch the Porsche murder the Corvette in MPH down the straights

Apparently the C2S puts down 380WHP/WTQ vs 400/300 WTQ for the GT3. I betchu average HP on the C2 is higher, especially from a dig.... but then, 9000 RPM
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 07, 2016, 11:20:25 AM
Sorry that compare was on Motor Trend... video will probably be up next Monday.

Do you know what tires the Porsche had on it? Doesn't look like Porsche makes any super hi po options available for the C2 which I guess makes sense

Depending on which wheel size, the OE tires are either GY Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2s or Pirelli P Zeros.  Both are pretty good tires, though a class behind something like the Sport Cup 2.
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I feel like the Vette has like a foot wider rubber total at all 4 corners too. That plus the crazy aero and wider track can't hurt

I hope they bring back the Carrera GTS. That's actually gonna be pretty crazy
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I'm willing to bet the tires on the C7 are not much bigger than the steamrollers on the Porsche!
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 05, 2016, 08:41:11 AM
GS just beat the 991.2 C2S

Both really good cars but the GS was faster around Willow Springs and had more character

I would still get the 911.... thing hit 0-60 in 3.1s :mask:, looks better, and aurally 6>8 to me.... but I have to give respect where it's due, the C7 GS is the best Corvette of all time by a wide, wide margin

Even if a Corvette is faster around a track, a 911 is always more desirable than a Corvette  :huh:
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Quote from: Gotta-Qik-G8 on October 07, 2016, 05:06:23 PM
I'm willing to bet the tires on the C7 are not much bigger than the steamrollers on the Porsche!

Vette comes with a lot more tire.  285/335 F/R, either Michelin PSSes or PSC2s depending on if you have the Z07 package or not.  C2S has 245/305 Pirelli P-zeros, which are not quite as good as the PSS, but in the same performance category.
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Quote from: SVT_Power on October 08, 2016, 09:23:03 AM
Even if a Corvette is faster around a track, a 911 is always more desirable than a Corvette  :huh:

Unless you're racing :huh:
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Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 08, 2016, 12:01:38 PM
Unless you're racing :huh:
Being that most Corvette/911 owners don't race..........................................
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 08, 2016, 12:23:02 PM
Being that most Corvette/911 owners don't race..........................................

Every autocross and track event I go to is filled with fast Vettes, sometimes a couple 911s
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Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 08, 2016, 01:19:46 PM
Every autocross and track event I go to is filled with fast Vettes, sometimes a couple 911s

It's not the fast cars you find at the race track that make up most of the owners, it's the ones at the ice cream shop.
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Vette's a a relatively rare sight at auto-x events here.  911s are rarer.
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Quote from: MX793 on October 08, 2016, 04:04:11 PM
Vette's a a relatively rare sight at auto-x events here.  911s are rarer.

You're in upstate NY right?  Around here, Vettes are everywhere.  911s are very rare though.


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Quote from: Xer0 on October 08, 2016, 05:11:27 PM
You're in upstate NY right?  Around here, Vettes are everywhere.  911s are very rare though.


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Much like 5G Camaros, Vettes of the past couple of generations are pretty common on the street.  Just don't see them participating at any local motorsport activities.  Maybe some of them take their cars to the local dragstrip.  Wouldn't know; not my scene.  Most of the owners are the stereotypical midlife crisis crowd.
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Lots of Vette guys doing CAM-S now. And the Optima events (2-3 911s in that too)
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Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 08, 2016, 06:15:54 PM
Lots of Vette guys doing CAM-S now. And the Optima events (2-3 911s in that too)

Not here.  The few I've seen run have predominantly run the stock/street class.  Not sure, in my 6 years of running, I've seen a Vette older than a C4 compete, and the last time I saw a C4 run was before CAM existed.  C5 seems to be the most common generation (of the 5 Vettes I saw this year, 4 of them were C5s). 

CAM isn't particularly popular here in general.  The few cars I've seen in it are true classic cars (25+ years old) or Cobra kits on street tires (since CAM-S has a way better handicap than E-Mod).

The most common cars I've seen at events locally over the years are WRXes, Miatas, and Frizbees (in that order).
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Quote from: SVT_Power on October 08, 2016, 09:23:03 AM
Even if a Corvette is faster around a track, a 911 is always more desirable than a Corvette  :huh:
Of course! It's a Premium car from a premium brand! The fact that a Chevy is mentioned in the same breath as a 911 is a win for the Corvette.
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Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 08, 2016, 12:01:38 PM
Unless you're racing :huh:

I wouldn't pay anywhere near $100k for a car if all I cared about was tracking it  :huh:
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Quote from: SVT_Power on October 11, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
I wouldn't pay anywhere near $100k for a car if all I cared about was tracking it  :huh:

That's nothing for most guys who are serious about it. Most guys have more than that invested in their truck + trailer.
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Quote from: CaminoRacer on October 11, 2016, 01:51:49 PM
That's nothing for most guys who are serious about it. Most guys have more than that invested in their truck + trailer.

We're talking about buying sports cars, not race cars  :huh:

If all I cared about was how fast I could go on a track, I'd probably buy a Viper ACR. But for buying a street car, I'd probably skip both Viper and Corvette. Okay maybe not skip the Viper, because Viper.
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Even street cars are towed to & from the track. Most guys don't wanna be left stranded if they break something, plus then they can bring more tools and equipment.
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