C7 Corvette

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Agree, but I had the very same wheel in my Pontiac G5.

True! SMH!

[Payman]

Why would you tint your reverse lights red?

I don't want to do that.

[hotrodalex]

I don't have reverse lights at all.

[MX793]

I don't want to do that.

I was pointing out that the guy who replaced his airbag-equipped steering wheel with an aftermarket, bag-less wheel is the same who tinted his reverse lights red.

[Payman]

I was pointing out that the guy who replaced his airbag-equipped steering wheel with an aftermarket, bag-less wheel is the same who tinted his reverse lights red.

Ah.

[Cookie Monster]

I was pointing out that the guy who replaced his airbag-equipped steering wheel with an aftermarket, bag-less wheel is the same who tinted his reverse lights red.

Yeah, and you make it sound like those two can never be mutually exclusive.

The amount of shit I get for two small pieces of film on my taillights and getting a different steering wheel always astounds me.

[Soup DeVille]

Yeah, and you make it sound like those two can never be mutually exclusive.

The amount of shit I get for two small pieces of film on my taillights and getting a different steering wheel always astounds me.

You oughta see what happens if you cut your springs, and gut your muffler with a sawzall.

[Cookie Monster]

You oughta see what happens if you cut your springs, and gut your muffler with a sawzall.

Yeah, but see, it's not like I made my lights red and then started to complain about how I was crashing into everyone, or that I took the airbag out and kept hitting my face on the wheel and that I'd have to spend more money on the car to fix my shitty mistakes. I fucking love my red taillights and my no-airbag wheel. Hell, even MexicoCityM3 said he really liked my wheel today on the track.

Normally I wouldn't care, since Raza likes to give me shit about it all the time anyways, but he's an asshole, so whatever. It's just irritating when people discount my opinions about something totally unrelated because I have red reverse lights. Especially when it's from (what I thought were) level headed posters, like MX793. Whatever, though. You guys can all go blow it out your respective asses.

[Soup DeVille]

I don't like the red reverse lights because I think it is less safe for other people; or at the very least can confuse other drivers.

I've no problems with the steering wheel.

[Cookie Monster]

I don't like the red reverse lights because I think it is less safe for other people; or at the very least can confuse other drivers.

I've no problems with the steering wheel.

I've had them on for 1.5 years and have never had any problems or even close calls with them. Just be careful backing up.

Interesting though, that after 1.5 years I still get shit on for it. You would think there'd be something new to talk about here.

[Soup DeVille]

And my grandpa ran the same red light for thirty years. Never meant he was right.

Anyways, stop being so defensive. I'll stop giving you shit about when I find something new to give you shit about.

[MX793]

Yeah, and you make it sound like those two can never be mutually exclusive.

The amount of shit I get for two small pieces of film on my taillights and getting a different steering wheel always astounds me.

You apparently don't understand why different vehicle lights are assigned different standardized colors.  A vehicle's lights (turn signals, brake lights, tail lamps) are a means of communication.  The colors are standardized so that everybody on the road is speaking the same language.  When you start screwing with the colors, you are no longer speaking the same language as everybody else and other drivers are now going to misunderstand what you are trying to communicate.  If a driver sees a bright, solidly-lit red lamp on the back of the vehicle, they are going to interpret that as a brake lamp, not a reverse lamp.  You might as well have just painted over them, because they no longer do what they're supposed to.  Tinting reverse lamps red is like tinting your headlamps red, or making your tail/brake lamps white.  It's a hazard to others as much, if not more, as it is to you

As to the steering wheel, the airbag is an integral part of a vehicle's crash protection and occupant restraint system.  Cars aren't designed to protect the occupant optimally without them.  If this was a track car with a full 4 or 5 point harness and a cage, I can understand swapping the wheel for a bag-less.  Pulling the airbag out of a vehicle without upgrading the other vehicle restraints to compensate is like removing the face shield from a helmet and then not wearing any safety glasses or goggles.  That said, at least this only impacts you.  If you're fine with the reduction in your own safety, then so be it.

[Soup DeVille]

Meh, even without the airbag, that little Miata is safer than most of the cars I've ever owned.

[MX793]

And Rags, I gave you shit over the steering wheel initially because I thought you swapped it for aesthetics.  I didn't realize you swapped it because of ergonomic reasons until a later post.  The safety gained by having a wheel that allows you better control (better reach to the wheel, wheel doesn't impede your legs) offsets the safety lost by giving up the airbag.  That's a legit compromise and I won't give you shit about it.  I still don't like the red reverse lamps, though.

[Cookie Monster]

You apparently don't understand why different vehicle lights are assigned different standardized colors.  A vehicle's lights (turn signals, brake lights, tail lamps) are a means of communication.  The colors are standardized so that everybody on the road is speaking the same language.  When you start screwing with the colors, you are no longer speaking the same language as everybody else and other drivers are now going to misunderstand what you are trying to communicate.  If a driver sees a bright, solidly-lit red lamp on the back of the vehicle, they are going to interpret that as a brake lamp, not a reverse lamp.  You might as well have just painted over them, because they no longer do what they're supposed to.  Tinting reverse lamps red is like tinting your headlamps red, or making your tail/brake lamps white.  It's a hazard to others as much, if not more, as it is to you

As to the steering wheel, the airbag is an integral part of a vehicle's crash protection and occupant restraint system.  Cars aren't designed to protect the occupant optimally without them.  If this was a track car with a full 4 or 5 point harness and a cage, I can understand swapping the wheel for a bag-less.  Pulling the airbag out of a vehicle without upgrading the other vehicle restraints to compensate is like removing the face shield from a helmet and then not wearing any safety glasses or goggles.  That said, at least this only impacts you.  If you're fine with the reduction in your own safety, then so be it.

Nice try, but you're only using your reverse lights for a fraction of the time you're driving, unless for some reason you like to drive backwards everywhere you go. Is it less safe? Yes, I'll admit that, but honestly, paying more attention and not being an idiot goes a long way with not getting into accidents.

[Soup DeVille]

My grandpa only ran that red light for a few seconds during his daily commute too.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Sigh......it's like a bunch of old women at a bridge game in here.

[GoCougs]

No grandmas will be driving 0-60 in under 4 seconds though .

No other automaker on the planet could come close to building this car at this price point. 

[FlatBlackCaddy]

No grandmas will be driving 0-60 in under 4 seconds though .

No other automaker on the planet could come close to building this car at this price point. 

I don't know, I see a lot of old farts putting around in corvettes.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

No grandmas will be driving 0-60 in under 4 seconds though .

No other automaker on the planet could come close to building this car at this price point. 

Agreed! But the GM bashers WILL find something to nit pick about.....

[Raza]

I don't know, I see a lot of old tarts putting around in corvettes.

My mother's car hits 60 in 4.2 seconds.  It's not out of the question.   

[FlatBlackCaddy]

My mother's car hits 60 in 4.2 seconds.  It's not out of the question.   

Meant farts, and it was never in question.

90% or corvettes around here are automatic and driven by men in their late 60's to early 70's.

I looked high and low for a non Z06 corvette with a manual transmission. I'd have better luck finding a unicorn at a fish market.

[r0tor]

No other automaker on the planet could come close to building this car at this price point. 

"Could" and "willing to" are two different things

[Raza]

Meant farts, and it was never in question.

90% or corvettes around here are automatic and driven by men in their late 60's to early 70's.

I looked high and low for a non Z06 corvette with a manual transmission. I'd have better luck finding a unicorn at a fish market.

I was agreeing with you.  My 60 year old mother drives a car that would destroy 99% of the cars owned by enthusiasts on this board. 

[12,000 RPM]

I've had them on for 1.5 years and have never had any problems or even close calls with them. Just be careful backing up.

Interesting though, that after 1.5 years I still get shit on for it. You would think there'd be something new to talk about here.

It's still a bad idea

[Cookie Monster]

It's still a bad idea

So is having a bike. Why do you still have yours?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I hate to sound like an old man, or god forbid....my father. I hope to god you don't ever back over someone in a parking lot because they just thought you were sitting in place with your brakes on and didn't know you were backing up. They would end up owning a lot of very nice things, I speak of your possessions of course. Gross negligence comes floating through my mind, and your insurance company would run from that situation fast.

[12,000 RPM]

So is having a bike. Why do you still have yours?

Fair point I guess, but two bad ideas doesn't make them OK

And in any case me riding a bike = potential extra harm only to me; you painting your tail lights red = potential harm to someone else

I liked the way my 1st Accord looked slammed on cheap coilovers, unfortunately it rode like ass and was dangerous. So I raised it up on Konis + Neuspeeds and rectfied the situation. Just seems silly to create a potential accident for looks. In the long run it's not a big deal but it's still silly

[280Z Turbo]

I would recommend you disable the reverse lamps and perhaps add something in their place.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I would recommend you disable the reverse lamps and perhaps add something in their place.

Be interesting to wire the reverse switch into the hazard switch so the hazards flash when you back up.