C7 Corvette

Started by Cookie Monster, December 29, 2012, 11:09:40 PM

hotrodalex

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 04, 2014, 10:19:01 AM
Boring. A pearl white like the FRS would be nice.

But I'm not a rapper.

Rich

C and d has the z06 review posted on their website.  Pretty sweet. I wish they gave a better idea of what it was like to drive other than "really fast"
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Rich

What's the steering feel like?  What's the brake pedal pressure like?  How about fade?  What's the powerband like?  Clutch feel?  How's the ride?

What a shit review.
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MX793

Quote from: HotRodPilot on November 24, 2014, 08:17:26 AM
What's the steering feel like?  What's the brake pedal pressure like?  How about fade?  What's the powerband like?  Clutch feel?  How's the ride?

What a shit review.

Their primary test car was an automatic.  They drove a stick version and made a few comments regarding the clutch feel at the end of the article.

Also, this test was part of a GM press event, so I gather that all they got was one day with the car at the track.  Not their usual multi day test.
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Rich

So other mags would have classified it as a first drive rather than a full test?
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Rich

Quote from: MX793 on November 24, 2014, 08:41:49 AM
made a few comments regarding the clutch feel at the end of the article.

I don't see them
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68_427

1.19g on the skidpad.  For reference the 918 on the same tires was 1.10g.
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MX793

Quote from: HotRodPilot on November 24, 2014, 08:51:53 AM
I don't see them

Sorry, last paragraph of page 1 with a sidebar giving the 0-60 and 1/4 mile for the manual car along with a note that that car threw some kind of fault light when they were driving it so times may be quicker on a faster car.
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MX793

Quote from: HotRodPilot on November 24, 2014, 08:49:07 AM
So other mags would have classified it as a first drive rather than a full test?

Instrumented test vs a full road test.  First drives generally don't include any kind of instrumented testing.

That said, I've found a lot of C&D's more recent tests to be exceptionally short on qualitative details.  Seems like review pieces are shorter in general from what they were 8+ years ago when I was a subscriber.
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12,000 RPM

All the American rags are going to shit. Didn't they all consolidate recently? The place to get insights is from consumer based sites like Edmunds and CR, on video like MT's excellent YT channel & overseas (i.e. EVO).
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68_427

Mt has an ignition episode for the z06
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12,000 RPM

Yea was just about to say MT's video is up

$100K... Z07 Stage 3 or entry level GT-R...........................

LMAO!!!!

Weirdest, weirdest, weirdest thing here is the gulf in excitement between the Viper and this. Is the Corvette really that much more refined/user friendly?
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SVT666

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 24, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
Yea was just about to say MT's video is up

$100K... Z07 Stage 3 or entry level GT-R...........................

LMAO!!!!

Weirdest, weirdest, weirdest thing here is the gulf in excitement between the Viper and this. Is the Corvette really that much more refined/user friendly?
Viper sucks ass in comparison, and I hate saying that because I have always loved the Viper and hated the Vette.

12,000 RPM

What is so bad about the Viper though... I thought they refined the hell out of it this go round
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hotrodalex

Compared to the previous one, still seems kinda kit car-y.

GoCougs

Hmmm - hard to believe they could outdo the ZR1 but sounds like the C7 Z06 blows it outta the water.

Also note the 1/4 mile in 11.1 sec @ 127 mph was in a heavier A/T car without any sort of launch control (including brake torquing)...


hotrodalex

I read Hot Rod's article about it and thought it mentioned launch control?

12,000 RPM

LC makes it slower (????)

I wonder if they will even do a ZR1 this go round. Seems unnecessary
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68_427

Yes you can launch better without launch control.  Launch control is just more consistent and almost as quick.  So if you're bracket racing at your local strip use launch control.
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GoCougs

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 24, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
Yea was just about to say MT's video is up

$100K... Z07 Stage 3 or entry level GT-R...........................

LMAO!!!!

Weirdest, weirdest, weirdest thing here is the gulf in excitement between the Viper and this. Is the Corvette really that much more refined/user friendly?

The Viper just tries too hard to be "bad" and it sounds like a UPS truck. The Corvette also has a much bigger legacy and there are less expensive versions available (i.e., far more customers/followers).

GoCougs

By "launch control" I meant some sort of launch. They said they simply just pegged the gas on the A/T car to get those numbers.

SVT666

Quote from: GoCougs on November 24, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
By "launch control" I meant some sort of launch. They said they simply just pegged the gas on the A/T car to get those numbers.
That's not what Launch Control means.

MX793

Quote from: GoCougs on November 24, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
By "launch control" I meant some sort of launch. They said they simply just pegged the gas on the A/T car to get those numbers.

When they said "no Launch Control", they meant they didn't engage the car's launch control system.  They simply launched as they would any other automatic car without said feature/system.
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Xer0

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 24, 2014, 02:38:46 PM
LC makes it slower (????)

I wonder if they will even do a ZR1 this go round. Seems unnecessary

I don't see why not, ZL1 and Z/28 Camaros both exist and offer two very different Camaro feels.  Maybe the Z06 will be the 911 Turbo and the ZR1 will be the GT3 this time, who knows.

Raza

Quote from: HotRodPilot on November 24, 2014, 08:17:26 AM
What's the steering feel like?  What's the brake pedal pressure like?  How about fade?  What's the powerband like?  Clutch feel?  How's the ride?

What a shit review.

Who cares about that when you can just look at drag times?
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68_427

From Top Gear: 
QuoteThink it's fair to say it's going to crush anything less than a 918, P1 or LaFerrari. Its combination of relentless power, unshakeable chassis - with all its clever technology that works with you - and vast brakes is unbeatable at the moment. And that's just on the track.

While it sounds good to hear them say it I can't imagine it being faster than a Speciale or 650S.
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: 68_427 on November 25, 2014, 01:04:02 PM
From Top Gear: 
While it sounds good to hear them say it I can't imagine it being faster than a Speciale or 650S.
Why not

Slightly more weight

But much more torque and as much to much more power. More tire and I think brakes too.

We will never know if its faster than the Speciale because Ferrari is pussy
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MrH

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 25, 2014, 01:34:07 PM
Why not

Slightly more weight

But much more torque and as much to much more power. More tire and I think brakes too.


We will never know if its faster than the Speciale because Ferrari is pussy

They just gave Chris Harris the keys to a Speciale to put up against a GT3 :huh:
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GoCougs

Quote from: SVT666 on November 24, 2014, 02:57:22 PM
That's not what Launch Control means.

Quote from: MX793 on November 24, 2014, 03:32:27 PM
When they said "no Launch Control", they meant they didn't engage the car's launch control system.  They simply launched as they would any other automatic car without said feature/system.

Search YouTube for "launch control" and you'll see examples of it.

Automatic cars are or can be brake torque'd (floor gas and brake @ same time to load up the torque converter).