C7 Corvette

[SVT666]

Clarkson is a master rabble rouser. Id much rather hear a chassis engineer wax on about frequencies and the like. Clarkson is for folks who like cars but dont know anything about them. TG ending is a good thing for auto enthusiasts

[r0tor]

Clarkson is a master rabble rouser. Id much rather hear a chassis engineer wax on about frequencies and the like. Clarkson is for folks who like cars but dont know anything about them. TG ending is a good thing for auto enthusiasts

No, Clarkson is a fan of cars and driving cars - not of marketing nonsense.  The Europeans worked out the foundation of a good car years ago - predictable compliant and agile chassis setup with lively engines.

The C5 corvette was suppose to be the next great thing.  It never was fully baked in the chassis department.  Then the C6 came out and the marketing department threw gobs and gobs of supercharged power and magnitec headlines - only to never really sort of the underlying C5 issues.  Now the C7 puts more lipstick on the same pig with carbon this and that - and none of it actually works in real life on the Z07.

[GoCougs]

lol at the Euro worship...

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

  Now the C7 puts more lipstick on the same pig with carbon this and that

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

lol at the Euro worship...

Rite! these are the same people that'll buy a Cayman GT4 and get their asses handed to them by the cheaper Z06.......

EDIT: A Z51 might open a can of whoop ass on the GT4 also! 

[SVT666]

Rite! these are the same people that'll buy a Cayman GT4 and get their asses handed to them by the cheaper Z06.......

EDIT: A Z51 might open a can of whoop ass on the GT4 also! 

The GT4 is a better car, regardless of which is faster.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

The GT4 is a better car, regardless of which is faster.

Same excuse Ford Fanbois use in the Rustang vs. Camaro debate! 

[SVT666]

Same excuse Ford Fanbois use in the Rustang vs. Camaro debate! 

Certain trim levels are better in the Mustang than the Camaro and vice versa.  If the sole requirement for "better" is "faster", then the last Shelby GT500 is one of the best cars ever made...and we all know that's not true.

[r0tor]

Rite! these are the same people that'll buy a Cayman GT4 and get their asses handed to them by the cheaper Z06.......

EDIT: A Z51 might open a can of whoop ass on the GT4 also! 

If I'm not winning money by racing, I will take the better car - the GT4

[Lebowski]

The C5 corvette was suppose to be the next great thing.  It never was fully baked in the chassis department.  Then the C6 came out and the marketing department threw gobs and gobs of supercharged power and magnitec headlines - only to never really sort of the underlying C5 issues.  Now the C7 puts more lipstick on the same pig with carbon this and that - and none of it actually works in real life on the Z07.

I'm not really a C5 fan but overall the C5, C6, and C7 are/were the best performance buy of their respective time.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

If I'm not winning money by racing, I will take the better car - the GT4

The point of racing is to be THE FASTEST from Point A to B! So I guess you wouldn't be making much money.... 

EDIT: I read that wrong. 

[GoCougs]

So has anyone ever been successful dumping on the Corvette?

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

So has anyone ever been successful dumping on the Corvette?

Not since the late 70s!

[FlatBlackCaddy]

So has anyone ever been successful dumping on the Corvette?

Normally just the owners, Z boys are having fun with some  blown motors and of course now that its getting warmer, the heat related issues.

[GoCougs]

Not since the late 70s!

Word. It's pretty much always been at a unique price/performance point. Can't dump on it for not being as "good" as the 911 (though it's pretty close these days) because it costs 30-40+% less and no domestic automaker has ever made anything in the class.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Isn't this what you were waiting on Cougs?
http://blog.caranddriver.com/chevy-brings-android-auto-and-apple-carplay-to-14-models-for-2016/

[GoCougs]

YES. I had a Q50 loaner for a few days not long ago and that infotainment was a mess.

[280Z Turbo]

Word. It's pretty much always been at a unique price/performance point. Can't dump on it for not being as "good" as the 911 (though it's pretty close these days) because it costs 30-40+% less and no domestic automaker has ever made anything in the class.

Even in the 70's they sold like crazy and were generally well reviewed. Nothing else really competed with the Corvette at that time.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/rumor-2015-corvette-zo6-does-708-nurburgring

[Galaxy]

So I guess the cause of all those blown C7 engines has been found. Apparently GM used a sealant in the engine that caused the oil to foam up. The solution is to change the oil at 500miles. After the breakin period the sealant is gone. Surprised this was not caught during testing.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/08/21/chevrolet-finds-cause-and-solution-for-corvette-z06-engine-problem/

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I heard it was metal shavings from the castings.

Either way, what GM says isn't usually the case. I'm sure there will be more failures in the future(between overheats).

[MX793]

I'm surprised Chevy didn't require an oil change at 500 miles in the owner's manual.  Any vehicle with a high performance engine (motorcycles, specifically) I've owned has called for the first oil change at 500-600 miles.  IIRC, I was told to change the oil at around 600 miles on my Mustang as well.

[280Z Turbo]

I heard it was metal shavings from the castings.

Either way, what GM says isn't usually the case. I'm sure there will be more failures in the future(between overheats).

GM doesn't make mistakes. Only GM suppliers make mistakes.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I'm surprised Chevy didn't require an oil change at 500 miles in the owner's manual.  Any vehicle with a high performance engine (motorcycles, specifically) I've owned has called for the first oil change at 500-600 miles.  IIRC, I was told to change the oil at around 600 miles on my Mustang as well.

There was a 500 mile oil change requirement in the owners manual! Most Stealerships were doing them for free!

[GoCougs]

I'm surprised Chevy didn't require an oil change at 500 miles in the owner's manual.  Any vehicle with a high performance engine (motorcycles, specifically) I've owned has called for the first oil change at 500-600 miles.  IIRC, I was told to change the oil at around 600 miles on my Mustang as well.

Both the Accord and G manuals said to leave factory oil in for the entire interval owing to some important additive.

Modern manufacturing processes are (or should be) so tight there is no such need to change oil owing to "dirt" or w/e.

[12,000 RPM]

Modern manufacturing processes are (or should be) so tight there is no such need to change oil owing to "dirt" or w/e.

No

[GoCougs]

No

Yes. I challenge you to show me of a new car manual that stipulates oil change within the first 500 miles. Might fine a couple, but by and large, that requirement does not exist for a new car.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

C&D just picked the GT350 over a Z51 C7 in the Feb issue! Even thought the Vette out performed the Stang they picked it over the Vette because it felt more special and had better steering! But in the same review they complained about how the GT felt like it would vibrate its dash a loose at higher revs. They even mentioned that the GT350 buyer should "sell the car before it vibrates itself into pieces."    Stang won by 2 points.

[Payman]

C&D just picked the GT350 over a Z51 C7 in the Feb issue! Even thought the Vette out performed the Stang they picked it over the Vette because it felt more special and had better steering! But in the same review they complained about how the GT felt like it would vibrate its dash a loose at higher revs. They even mentioned that the GT350 buyer should "sell the car before it vibrates itself into pieces."    Stang won by 2 points.

They're probably still soured over their problematic long-termer.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

They're probably still soured over their problematic long-termer.

Thats EXACTLY what I thought! Epecially since the C7 flat out ran the Stang in ALL the performance categories!