The G-spot

Started by SVT666, January 09, 2013, 05:30:19 PM

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Quote from: GoCougs on January 11, 2013, 01:34:47 PM
There is rumored to be a GTR-esque Q50 coming down the pike with a ~400-425 hp TT V6. THAT will be a game changer for the segment.

A game changer for a segment that already has cars like that?

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Quote from: GoCougs on January 11, 2013, 01:34:47 PM
There is rumored to be a GTR-esque Q50 coming down the pike with a ~400-425 hp TT V6. THAT will be a game changer for the segment.
Are you kidding?  The M3 and S4 already exist.

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Could under shoot it on price. :huh:

The GTR ate everybody's lunch in their segment. I think they've got a shot at doing the same here if it happens. New M3 soon and hopefully IS-F too soon also.
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Quote from: GoCougs on January 11, 2013, 01:34:47 PM
There is rumored to be a GTR-esque Q50 coming down the pike with a ~400-425 hp TT V6. THAT will be a game changer for the segment.

425hp wouldn't be that much against the next generation TT-6 M3 (450-480hp) that is a year away or even the current RS4/C63.

But I can see where you are going with this. If they manage to deliver GT-R crushing-level performance (for the segment) in a car like that then yeah, it could change the game somewhat. It'd have to be a large step above the M3 in performance while still being fun to drive to do that. We'll see.
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Quote from: Raza  on January 11, 2013, 07:17:33 AM
I agree.  It's aged well, too.  Amazing how much better looking it is than its stodgy sedan counterpart.

Yeah, the sedan was funny looking. I prefer the 2nd gen sedan to the 2nd gen coupe, while I vastly prefer the 1st gen coupe to the 1st gen sedan.


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GoCougs

A Q50 w/425 hp, DSG, and most importantly, Nissan's ATTESA-ETS AWD system, would be monster. It'd crush an S4 (and judging by the B8 RS5, it'd put a huge hurt on a B8 RS4 too) or IS-F and be at least one level above the M3 and C63. It'd also probably cost a whole lot less than the $70-80k+ those latter three Germans marques command.

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Quote from: GoCougs on January 11, 2013, 02:50:10 PM
A Q50 w/425 hp, DSG, and most importantly, Nissan's ATTESA-ETS AWD system, would be monster. It'd crush an S4 (and judging by the B8 RS5, it'd put a huge hurt on a B8 RS4 too) or IS-F and be at least one level above the M3 and C63. It'd also probably cost a whole lot less than the $70-80k+ those latter three Germans marques command.

That's a lot of overconfident speculation based on cars that are near the end of their life cycle there, Joe.  Don't place your bets yet.  Nissan's been bunting a lot of foul balls lately. 
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Quote from: Raza  on January 11, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
That's a lot of overconfident speculation based on cars that are near the end of their life cycle there, Joe.  Don't place your bets yet.  Nissan's been bunting a lot of foul balls lately. 

If they choose to do it I'm not sure how they could botch it really. The GTR performance bits are well developed and the Q50 will (presumably) already be engineered for the milder variants of the VQ and ATTESA-ETS. To your point about the competition, at the $99k price point the GTR is well more than a match for the all-new 911 Carerra S.


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Quote from: CALL_911 on January 11, 2013, 02:03:31 PM
Yeah, the sedan was funny looking. I prefer the 2nd gen sedan to the 2nd gen coupe, while I vastly prefer the 1st gen coupe to the 1st gen sedan.
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Quote from: GoCougs on January 11, 2013, 04:12:59 PM
If they choose to do it I'm not sure how they could botch it really. The GTR performance bits are well developed and the Q50 will (presumably) already be engineered for the milder variants of the VQ and ATTESA-ETS. To your point about the competition, at the $99k price point the GTR is well more than a match for the all-new 911 Carerra S.

The GT-R is not now nor has it ever been a compact family sedan.  It's not applicable to the G, the Maxima, the Rogue, the Murano, or any other model Nissan makes.  If they choose to be best in class they can do it?  Why haven't they chosen to be best so far?  It's a great value, but it's not the best in class.  Your Nissan fanboy is showing. 
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Quote from: GoCougs on January 11, 2013, 04:12:59 PM
If they choose to do it I'm not sure how they could botch it really. The GTR performance bits are well developed and the Q50 will (presumably) already be engineered for the milder variants of the VQ and ATTESA-ETS. To your point about the competition, at the $99k price point the GTR is well more than a match for the all-new 911 Carerra S.



The GT-R's version of ATTESA is mechanically a very different animal from that currently used in the other FM cars (G and M).  The transmission is rear mounted with dual driveshafts running the length of the car.
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The front is a little over the top, but it does look pretty good otherwise, especially when compared to that awful new IS.

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It's awful.  It looks like grandma is pinching it's cheeks.  I won't be getting another Infiniti to replace the G that's for fucking sure.

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Interior looks awesome.

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The interior does look awesome, but that front end is terrible.


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Did Nissan's designers accidently melt the styling buck in the studio and this somehow got put into production by mistake?  :facepalm:


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I do not like that interior.
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I knew it looked familiar, I just couldn't place it. The rear is very Hyundai-esque as well.

I don't really care though.

Recent Infiniti's have kind of look disjointed for some reason (including the current G, sorry guys), this one doesn't. I think the front will look more subdued in person.

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It has the exact same profile as the F10. Headlights even look similar.

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The G sedan has never really looked good (compared to the Coupe) but this looks horrible.

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Quote from: Raza  on January 12, 2013, 11:24:01 AM
The GT-R is not now nor has it ever been a compact family sedan.  It's not applicable to the G, the Maxima, the Rogue, the Murano, or any other model Nissan makes.  If they choose to be best in class they can do it?  Why haven't they chosen to be best so far?  It's a great value, but it's not the best in class.  Your Nissan fanboy is showing. 

Sure, it's applicable for the reasons I stated.

Nissan just hasn't been into the AMG/M/RS thing; pretty sure there little or no money in it but that's just a guess. The GT-R'd variant of the Q50 is still rumor AFAIK.

Not a Nissan fanboy by any means, but it is notable that the Germans could never build a GT-R.

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Quote from: MX793 on January 12, 2013, 12:25:33 PM
The GT-R's version of ATTESA is mechanically a very different animal from that currently used in the other FM cars (G and M).  The transmission is rear mounted with dual driveshafts running the length of the car.

The Q50 highly unlikely will get the exact GT-R drivetrain - too costly/powerful/capable. The aforementioned watered down version of the 3.8 TT VQ and ATTESA is the speculation.

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I'm starting to like it more.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R