TDI fades into regulatory oblivion; Enter Miata

Started by Tave, February 24, 2013, 02:15:38 PM

12,000 RPM

I don't think the ND is a worthy trade for the S2K. I guess its a matter of trading ~500lb for like 100HP. That's a LOT
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s2k is classic, keep it no matter what.

Miatas are plentiful, could always find one later.
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You'll never lose money on the S2000, as long as you keep the rice off it.

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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2017, 08:42:20 AM
I don't think the ND is a worthy trade for the S2K. I guess its a matter of trading ~500lb for like 100HP. That's a LOT

500 lb is a lot, especially when the ND with bolt ons and a tune gets like ~180whp (probably more seeing as Goodwin got 190), which puts it within spitting distance of the S2K.

That being said, I'd keep the S2K as well. :lol:
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Tave

A'ight.

Turned in the TDI a couple hours ago. No mileage penalty.

Evidently VW doesn't make any adjustments for the 2 month lag time between offers and appointments. In other words, after I get my funds, which will take a few days longer than they originally stated, I then have to contact VWcredit to get reimbursed for the amount I overpaid on my loan.  :banghead:

Thanks to Mike for the Truecar reference--I'd never heard of them before this thread but seems like a decent enough-service, and I get some sort of consideration for being an American Express customer. They're suppose to send me pricing on a red GT in the next day or two.
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

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Tave

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 18, 2017, 06:21:16 PM
I still want a TDI. I hate seeing all of them get destroyed
:cry:

If they can iron-out their emissions modification fix they'll turn around and start re-selling them and you might be able to pick one up on the cheap.

Just don't buy mine it was 2K overdue for an oil change and 4K overdue for its 40,000 mile service.  :mask:
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Tave

I gave it the 'ol Italian tune-up on the drive to the dealer though so it's all good. Farewell old friend!
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Tave on January 18, 2017, 06:32:44 PM
If they can iron-out their emissions modification fix they'll turn around and start re-selling them and you might be able to pick one up on the cheap.

Just don't buy mine it was 2K overdue for an oil change and 4K overdue for its 40,000 mile service.  :mask:

That would actually be cool to have a sudden surge of used/B-stock TDIs on the market.
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Quote from: Tave on January 18, 2017, 06:15:59 PM
A'ight.

Turned in the TDI a couple hours ago. No mileage penalty.

Evidently VW doesn't make any adjustments for the 2 month lag time between offers and appointments. In other words, after I get my funds, which will take a few days longer than they originally stated, I then have to contact VWcredit to get reimbursed for the amount I overpaid on my loan.  :banghead:

Thanks to Mike for the Truecar reference--I'd never heard of them before this thread but seems like a decent enough-service, and I get some sort of consideration for being an American Express customer. They're suppose to send me pricing on a red GT in the next day or two.

So you had to turn in your car before you got your money?
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Tave

Quote from: Raza  on January 18, 2017, 06:48:37 PM
So you had to turn in your car before you got your money?

Yeah, they'll cut you a check but claim it takes 1-2 months longer to schedule that appointment. This is in addition to the 1+ month they made me wait between when they approved me and when they allowed me to return mine. All the while they dock your settlement if you go over certain miles.  :wtf:
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Lebowski

Is there a post here explaining here how the buyout worked ... was it much above say Kelly blue book?


Apologies if this a "Dave, what color did you get?" type question.

Tave

No there's no summary post and it goes back a long way. The process kinda evolved over time the further along it went. Briefly here's what happened for me:

-VW recalls my car in the Spring of '15 for an ECU reflash
-That August the scandal hits, over the next few months they start sending owners literature and soliciting potential claims through the "Goodwill Program"
-In November-ish they send me a $500 debit card and $500 VW dealer card
-They continue sending literature sporadically and pushing back the start date back.
-Summer 2016 they create the online portal and solicit claims for real. They give owners two options: 1) buyback at pre-scandal KBB value + restitution; or, 2) modification + restitution
-At this point no claims are processed beyond initial info and preferences
-Start date is pushed back and back and back
-Eventually portal opens, but they can't service the volume, most experience huge delays
-VW informs owners that those who selected option 2 will not be paid, if at all, until a modification is actually developed. If one isn't developed by 2018, VW will force the owner to sell it back (and levy the mileage penalty)
-My claim is stalled out in October and I'd originally selected option 2, so I request VW reset my claim in early November and I resubmit under option 1
-End of November VW processes my claim and starts "generating their offer" :wtf:
-Second week of December I get the settlement offer. I sign and scan it immediately.
-Dec 20th they process the offer and allow me to schedule a return appointment. Nowhere within a 100-mile radius had any date before Jan 18th

I've got a buddy with a Sportwagen that is still waiting for them to approve the docs (license and registration) he submitted in October.
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Lebowski

Jesus, that's absurd.

Can they really force owners to sell back?

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Tave

Quote from: Lebowski on January 18, 2017, 07:53:49 PM
Jesus, that's absurd.

Can they really force owners to sell back?

I don't know how far they take it after you've already opt-in to the class.

You don't have to opt-in, but you run the risk of your car being ineligible to re-register or unsellable down the road. 
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Tave

So I've got a good price (~3500 under MSRP) on a red GT at a nearby dealer. They've got my CC info on hold as a deposit, are pre-approving my financing, and we should be ready to close Monday. Thanks for that truecar reference--I spoke w some of my friends and evidently a couple had used it too.
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

SJ_GTI


Tave

Quote from: SJ_GTI on January 20, 2017, 03:00:48 PM
Nice. Did you work a deal in person or over the phone?

Over the phone. Just put my contact info in truecar, selected the nearest dealer, and they called/emailed me a few times before giving me a price.
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.


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Quote from: Tave on January 20, 2017, 02:59:33 PM
So I've got a good price (~3500 under MSRP) on a red GT at a nearby dealer. They've got my CC info on hold as a deposit, are pre-approving my financing, and we should be ready to close Monday. Thanks for that truecar reference--I spoke w some of my friends and evidently a couple had used it too.

:rockon:

Congrats! 
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Tave

Screw Monday!

Dealer said they'd let me make a partial down on my CC while I'm waiting for my buyback funds. Should have it by tomorrow at noonish.
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Eye of the Tiger

Quote from: Tave on January 20, 2017, 07:13:22 PM
Screw Monday!

Dealer said they'd let me make a partial down on my CC while I'm waiting for my buyback funds. Should have it by tomorrow at noonish.

A what, Fiata?
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Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on January 20, 2017, 07:16:48 PM
A what, Fiata?

A red Miata: the people's champion.

If the break-in period is short enough I might take a little trip down to Tail of the Dragon on Sunday. :dance:
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Quote from: thecarnut on March 16, 2008, 10:33:43 AM
Depending on price, that could be a good deal.

Laconian

I wonder how well the adaptive cruise control works with stick shifts. I fucking love adaptive cruise but I've only used it in AT cars.
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