MINIVAN MADNESS - The American Version

Started by cawimmer430, March 02, 2013, 12:19:11 PM

Which one for you?

Chevrolet Astro
1 (5.9%)
Ford Aerostar
2 (11.8%)
Plymouth Voyager
10 (58.8%)
Screw my pregnant girlfriend! I'm buying a motorcycle! The bitch can walk!
4 (23.5%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Morris Minor

Quote from: Madman on March 02, 2013, 09:10:29 PM


1986 Volkswagen Vanagon for me.

I always liked the way these use your legs as a crumple zone, great way to raise the stakes in sloppy driving & so focus drivers' attention. (Unless you're Oscar Pistorius) 
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Madman

Quote from: Morris Minor on March 03, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
I always liked the way these use your legs as a crumple zone, great way to raise the stakes in sloppy driving & so focus drivers' attention. (Unless you're Oscar Pistorius) 


Think of it as a safety feature.  You know if you hit anything larger than a dog you are going to die.  So, you pay closer attention to the road, to other traffic and you find youself driving more cautiously.  I once had a shit-your-pants moment in my old 1975 bus when I thought I was going to hit something.  That wakes you up REALLY fast!
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280Z Turbo

Voyager with wood paneling, the turbo motor and 5 speed.

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Soup DeVille

Quote from: thecarnut on March 03, 2013, 12:19:19 PM
No shit, but they can run sub 12's with some work and you end up with a crazy ass sleeper.

They can, but its also like running around on meth and crack simultaneously. You'll be moving real good for a while, and then eventually the shit is going to hit the fan.

The motors are strong as battleships, but the moving parts are heavy: they don't rev well. You can push stupid amounts of boost down their throats and they'll take it: if you can keep that shit under 5000 RPM.

Plus, I don't even need to point out that that minivan chassis was never intended to provide a stable high speed platform. Sure, it'll be fast, but it'll be about as graceful as a three legged heifer.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Onslaught

I never worked on the other two but I can say that the Ford was one of the most hateful cars I've ever worked on. It was the a good example of the pinnacle of Fords shit building days. I have no doubt that the other two cars are just as bad seeing that America couldn't build a car to save it's life back then.

Just seeing a picture of that God damn van made my blood pressure go up.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 03, 2013, 11:16:37 PM
They can, but its also like running around on meth and crack simultaneously. You'll be moving real good for a while, and then eventually the shit is going to hit the fan.

The motors are strong as battleships, but the moving parts are heavy: they don't rev well. You can push stupid amounts of boost down their throats and they'll take it: if you can keep that shit under 5000 RPM.

Plus, I don't even need to point out that that minivan chassis was never intended to provide a stable high speed platform. Sure, it'll be fast, but it'll be about as graceful as a three legged heifer.

Is it bad that everything you said just makes the turbo van appeal to me even more? :lol:

I think it'd be hilarious to drive a crappy van that scares the shit out of you when you get on the gas.
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Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Raza

It's girlfriend and not wife for a reason.  Later bitch, I'm changing my name and moving to Canada. 
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cawimmer430

Quote from: Raza  on March 04, 2013, 07:40:11 AM
It's girlfriend and not wife for a reason.  Later bitch, I'm changing my name and moving to Canada. 

:lol:
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NomisR

Quote from: Raza  on March 04, 2013, 07:40:11 AM
It's girlfriend and not wife for a reason.  Later bitch, I'm changing my name and moving to Canada. 

:hesaid:

Soup DeVille

Quote from: thecarnut on March 04, 2013, 07:26:07 AM
Is it bad that everything you said just makes the turbo van appeal to me even more? :lol:

I think it'd be hilarious to drive a crappy van that scares the shit out of you when you get on the gas.

Oh no, I understand that, just wanted to share.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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cawimmer430

I should have provided a Plymouth Volare Wagon option!  :dance:
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: Soup DeVille on March 03, 2013, 11:16:37 PM
Plus, I don't even need to point out that that minivan chassis was never intended to provide a stable high speed platform. Sure, it'll be fast, but it'll be about as graceful as a three legged heifer.

You. Would. Be. Surprised.    I bought a 92 Voyager in 2004. In Germany. ;) Speedo maxed out at 110mph. Van went faster than speedo. :lol: :lol:   I was running what was probably the stock suspension and it handled surprisingly well for such a package.

Granted that's compared to big Army trucks I was driving at the time but also my SHO (which had much better suspension than a stock Taurus)...
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 06, 2013, 08:04:40 AM
You. Would. Be. Surprised.    I bought a 92 Voyager in 2004. In Germany. ;) Speedo maxed out at 110mph. Van went faster than speedo. :lol: :lol:   I was running what was probably the stock suspension and it handled surprisingly well for such a package.

Granted that's compared to big Army trucks I was driving at the time but also my SHO (which had much better suspension than a stock Taurus)...

110 on the highway is one thing; running a quarter mile in 12 seconds is quite another.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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cawimmer430

I have to go meet a client now, but isn't there an R/T version of the current Dodge Grand Caravan?
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CJ

No. Even then, the R/T was just wheels and a rear wing. Moderately nicer seats and auto-stick!

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cawimmer430

Quote from: CJ on March 06, 2013, 01:23:03 PM
No. Even then, the R/T was just wheels and a rear wing. Moderately nicer seats and auto-stick!

Can't imagine any soccer mom wanting to track that baby!
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