Possible 2nd Car

[MexicoCityM3]

I would only own a Mini that's under warranty. I browsed enough owners forums to know that they don't last.

Yeah, better to get something more reliable.

In the Infiniti waiting room waiting for my reflash to finish.

[J86]

Real tough call there between the 9-2 and Mini for me.  LOVED my buddy's JCW S.  Fun problem to have!

[Laconian]

My re flash is a performance mod!

[68_427]

Yeah, the 9-2X is really, really compelling.  It's the choice my head is saying is the right one, but my heart is screaming Mini.  Considering I followed my heart with the Z4, maybe following my head for the practical car wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. 

Actual Subarus hold their value really well--too well. 

I mean, look at this:
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=19130&sellerTypes=b&transmissionCode=MAN&maxPrice=10000&transmissionCodes=MAN&mmt=%5BSUB%5BIMPWRX%5B%5DLEGACY%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=IMPWRX&makeCode2=SUB&modelCode2=LEGACY&showcaseOwnerId=294911&makeCode1=SUB&startYear=2003&searchRadius=0&listingId=342747736&listingIndex=2&Log=0

A 9-2X with the same mileage would be like $3,000 to $3,500 cheaper probably.

The Wagons Are About 200Lbs Or So Lighter.

[Raza]

If you're worried about a MINI not being big enough, check out a Clubman.

That's a great suggestion.

^Probably too expensive.

Rags is right.  I looked at them, but they're still way too expensive.  Nothing falls under 10K.

[Raza]

Out of your options, MINI. But I'd suggest something more practical that complements your Z4 better.

A3 maybe? I know it's a veedub but good car.
3 series/A4 touring with AWD?

I really wanted an A3, but I don't think they're falling into the price range, and I think it's about the same size as the 9-2X.  Also, not that AWD is a necessity, they did never sell it here with AWD and a stick.  And I feel like it's just a different body on my old Jetta in FWD guise.  The 3er and AWD didn't come with a stick in the US as far as I know, but I'll check that out.  The last time I looked at the Audi A4, my budget was around $6000, so I'll have to check them out again with the higher cap.

[Raza]

The Wagons Are About 200Lbs Or So Lighter.

I don't think that's right.  According to MSN, the WRX sedan weighs 3085 and the wagon weighs 3165.  It clocks the 9-2X in at 3179.  They've been wrong before, but the wagon weighing less than the sedan doesn't make sense to me. 

[CALL_911]

I really wanted an A3, but I don't think they're falling into the price range, and I think it's about the same size as the 9-2X.  Also, not that AWD is a necessity, they did never sell it here with AWD and a stick.  And I feel like it's just a different body on my old Jetta in FWD guise.  The 3er and AWD didn't come with a stick in the US as far as I know, but I'll check that out.  The last time I looked at the Audi A4, my budget was around $6000, so I'll have to check them out again with the higher cap.

AWD 3er did indeed come with a manual.

[Raza]

AWD 3er did indeed come with a manual.

Hmm.  I'll check that out.  E46? 

EDIT:  But only in sedan, right?  Not in wagon. 

EDIT:  AWD BMWs still feel weird. 

[GoCougs]

Those are all absolutely awful second cars - there is simply too little to differentiate vs. what you've already got.

[Raza]

Those are all absolutely awful second cars - there is simply too little to differentiate vs. what you've already got.

FWD and AWD hatches aren't differentiated enough from RWD sports cars?

[Eye of the Tiger]

FWD and AWD hatches aren't differentiated enough from RWD sports cars?

They are all reasonably involving driver's cars. What you need is something totally boring, beyond utilitarian to just plain horrible. How about a Taurus wagon?

[Vinsanity]

How about a VAN?

How about it?

[Eye of the Tiger]

How about it?

Raza has never driven a truck, or any body-on-frame vehicle in his life. I don't want him to start now.

[Laconian]

I want him to start now.

Nothing makes you appreciate your fun car more than spending time behind the wheel of a big nasty truck.

[Raza]

Raza has never driven a truck, or any body-on-frame vehicle in his life. I don't want him to start now.

I've driven a Uhaul, does that count?

[Raza]

How about it?

No vans.  This thing can't be much larger, if any, than my old Jetta.  It's going to live in the city, remember?  It can't be very big. 

[Eye of the Tiger]

I've driven a Uhaul, does that count?

Oh ,my bad. You're good, then. Have you considered a VAN?

[Laconian]

Nissan Cube. The ultimate in ironic cars for Raza.

[Xer0]

These aren't really that practical, IMO.

Get an Accord Sport

[giant_mtb]

How is an Accord Sport more practical than a Saab wagon...?

[68_427]

How is an Accord Sport more practical than a Saab wagon...?

And In Razas Price range

[Vinsanity]

No vans.  This thing can't be much larger, if any, than my old Jetta.  It's going to live in the city, remember?  It can't be very big. 

How was it that you reacted less harshly to the suggestion of a VAN than to a Scion TC?

[Xer0]

How is an Accord Sport more practical than a Saab wagon...?

I just really like the Accord Sport and its way more practical then the Civic or Cooper.  Besides, youre comparing a small wagon to one of the roomier midsizers; the only added practicality of the Saab will be the boot which will only be applicable in the rare event that RAZA needs to dispose of more then 2 bodies.  Otherwise, the Accord has a more comfortable and roomier cabin, better interior, better fuel economy, and a better hwy cruiser.  But yeah, its way over the limit, im just an Accord fan boy

[Secret Chimp]

The Accord isn't bad but there's nothing interesting about it.

[CALL_911]

The Accord isn't bad but there's nothing interesting about it.

?

Who cares, you buy an Accord because it's good at everything, not because you're expecting to be surprised or excited...? Besides, it's apparently decent fun to drive, which is plenty interesting.

[CALL_911]

It might not be as much fun to drive as a Mini, but all reviews indicate that it's decent fun to drive.

That said, it's a moot point- it's totally not what Raza's looking for. I vote 9-2x aero

[Madman]

How 'bout one of these?

[Madman]

Or these?

[Cookie Monster]

^both of those will be hard to find with a manual.