Keep the Focus?

[MX793]

So your mustang sits outside all summer?  I like putting the BRZ in the garage.  It keeps it so much cleaner.

It sits outside in the parking lot at work for near half of every weekday anyway.  I'm not a fanatic about having a spotlessly clean car.  It's rained here more days than not this month and 6 of the past 7 days.  Driving on wet roads or in the rain roughly every other day, the car isn't going to stay clean long and I'm not going to wash it more than once a week so I just accept that it's going to be a little dirty more often than not.  And in the spring there's so much pollen in the air that you could wash your car twice a day and it won't stay clean, even if you park it in the garage when you're at home.

[280Z Turbo]

Well, depends on how much space you have.  The way I viewed it, it's another car to have to store.  I've got a garage with space for one car.  It'd require a lot of cleaning out and would be a tight fit to get another one in there.

Perhaps more importantly, he doesn't have the money from the Focus to put towards the BRZ too.  I considered doing a second car with my Miata, which was paid off at the time.  But I was almost just as happy getting the BRZ alone, which I paid for largely with the miata.  I guess the costs involved with having two cars isn't significant when you've got a car that's not worth much to begin with.  To me, it was Miata + WRX or similar, which was drastically more expensive than just getting the BRZ.

Any idea what the Focus is still worth? 

Maybe $3000? The rust is advancing pretty fast.

I wouldn't insure both cars at the same time and storage is free. The only issue is keeping the Focus from rusting in half.

[Rupert]

Eh, just weld some angle iron across the middle.

[280Z Turbo]

Sacrificial anode?

[Rupert]

Sure.

I meant to hold the thing together, but that sounds better.

[280Z Turbo]

No, no. I want to use zinc blocks for sacrificial anodes.

An angle iron x brace should hold the car together a bit longer though.

[hotrodalex]

Might as well go all the way and use square tubing. Then it'll outlast the BRZ! You'll pretty much have a Flintstone car, but it won't break in two.

[SVT666]

So your mustang sits outside all summer?  I like putting the BRZ in the garage.  It keeps it so much cleaner.

It would stay even cleaner if you just had a carport.

[MrH]

It would stay even cleaner if you just had a carport.

[GoCougs]

I've done the multi-car thing - it's not worth it, and not only because of double the insurance - it's double the maintenance, double the space, just double the hassle.

As to keeping your car in tip-top form respect your car get covered parking/carport but not a garage. Heat + delayed drying + stagnant air speeds up the corrosion process - bad for salt but even worse if your area uses chemical deicers. 

[280Z Turbo]

Is it that crazy that I'm afraid of rust? I've owned a first gen Ford Ranger, '76 Datsun, and first gen Focus. These are all fairly rust prone cars.

[280Z Turbo]

I've done the multi-car thing - it's not worth it, and not only because of double the insurance - it's double the maintenance, double the space, just double the hassle.

As to keeping your car in tip-top form respect your car get covered parking/carport but not a garage. Heat + delayed drying + stagnant air speeds up the corrosion process - bad for salt but even worse if your area uses chemical deicers. 

It's not double the insurance. And space is not an issue.

[Soup DeVille]

I've done the multi-car thing - it's not worth it, and not only because of double the insurance - it's double the maintenance, double the space, just double the hassle.

As to keeping your car in tip-top form respect your car get covered parking/carport but not a garage. Heat + delayed drying + stagnant air speeds up the corrosion process - bad for salt but even worse if your area uses chemical deicers. 

You didn't get a discount on the second car? When I've done that, the second car cost about 60% of the first.

You're not driving twice as many miles, so I fail to see how its twice the maintenance.

[280Z Turbo]

You didn't get a discount on the second car? When I've done that, the second car cost about 60% of the first.

Wouldn't matter to me, because I would never insure both cars concurrently.

[GoCougs]

You didn't get a discount on the second car? When I've done that, the second car cost about 60% of the first.

You're not driving twice as many miles, so I fail to see how its twice the maintenance.

Insurance depends on the vehicle - the G37x is ~47% higher than the Accord and the Tacoma was somewhere in between. The Demon was a "classic" to be driven under 5,000/year and it was dirt cheap (like $20/mo for full coverage).

Maintenance is time based too, plus if you're a deterministic owner it's also going to mean twice as much cleaning and attention in general.

[GoCougs]

Wouldn't matter to me, because I would never insure both cars concurrently.

Want about comprehensive for theft, vandalism, etc.?

[hotrodalex]

If you store your car in a garage, it doesn't need to be cleaned... 

[280Z Turbo]

Want about comprehensive for theft, vandalism, etc.?

That's not a concern at my parents house, but I suppose I would put storage insurance on it.

[Rupert]

Home owners's/renter's should cover that stuff when it's parked at home.

[Rupert]

If you store your car in a garage, it doesn't need to be cleaned... 

But then it will suffocate and corrode.

[GoCougs]

Home owners's/renter's should cover that stuff when it's parked at home.

"Should" is the word of the devil, especially on the InnerTruths .

A standard homeowner's policy will not cover a car (damaged on the property or otherwise).

[GoCougs]

If you store your car in a garage, it doesn't need to be cleaned... 

How do cars get dirty?

[SVT666]

Home owners's/renter's should cover that stuff when it's parked at home.

Nope.

[SVT666]

Want about comprehensive for theft, vandalism, etc.?

That's like $10 a month.

[hotrodalex]

How do cars get dirty?

Driving and parking outside. If stored for 6 months, they'll only get dusty. A simple car cover can solve that, or you just wash it when you take it out.

[Soup DeVille]

Insurance depends on the vehicle - the G37x is ~47% higher than the Accord and the Tacoma was somewhere in between. The Demon was a "classic" to be driven under 5,000/year and it was dirt cheap (like $20/mo for full coverage).

Maintenance is time based too, plus if you're a deterministic owner it's also going to mean twice as much cleaning and attention in general.

Gee, no shit- next you're going to tell me its based on your driving record and age too.

Insuring a car as a second car almost always incurs a discount compared to that exact same car being your only car. Is that clearly enough spelled out for you?

And doing your maintenance based on the time schedule? Maybe for the one you want to keep nice.

[GoCougs]

Nope.

I sure hope that you don't test your theory.

[Raza]

You can own a car without it being insured anywhere in the US.  You may not be able to register a car without insurance everywhere (in NY, if you drop insurance you have to turn in your registration and plates or be fined for every day you're registered and not insured).

Ah, that's probably what I was thinking of then.

[CALL_911]

I say nay to keeping the Focus. A second car is expensive to keep around, and I'm not sure why a car like the BRZ shouldn't see the winter. It isn't exactly a Ferrari we're talking about here.

[Rupert]

Nope.

My renter's policy does, but it might be only if it's in the garage. That's the question I asked, and they replied in the affirmative.