Sporty's 350Z thread

[12,000 RPM]

You seem to get into trouble pretty easily.

Too bad the 3 cylinder geo metro isnt around, sounds like what you need.

New MINI is a 3 banger and prob has the same level of standard equipment. I will look into it.

Ran our #s with a mortgage officer. I probably could have got a new Mazda 3 with how our finances are. But being conservative is what got us here in the first place. Anyways I should be picking it up most likely Thursday. I'll make a "build" thread in the Mainstreamers forum.

[MrH]

A build thread for a civic...?

[Char]

A build thread for a civic...?

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Honda Fanboy-ism won't let Sporty go! 

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Honda Fanboy-ism won't let Sporty go! 

Truly a disease.

[12,000 RPM]

I like no torque and I cannot lie

[Cookie Monster]

I just drove my friend's 2012 (the bad year) Civic Si for about 70 miles. I'm pretty divided on how I feel about that car...

[GoCougs]

I met Sir Mix-A-Lot at the Infiniti dealer about a year ago - we both had the same service adviser and were waiting in the office together. Short guy - like 5'-5" which I didn't realize. Drives a somewhat decked out white QX56 (service adviser says he gets a new Infiniti every year, and has been their customer for quite some time).

[68_427]

CSB

[12,000 RPM]

I just drove my friend's 2012 (the bad year) Civic Si for about 70 miles. I'm pretty divided on how I feel about that car...

Tell me more. What was wrong with it?

The 09 I drove was OK. Revving out to 8K for low 15 second 1/4 performance gets old fast though. And it was so loud. I don't know if the car I drove had an intake/exhaust or what. But that engine note dominated the driving experience.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I met Sir Mix-A-Lot at the Infiniti dealer about a year ago - we both had the same service adviser and were waiting in the office together. Short guy - like 5'-5" which I didn't realize. Drives a somewhat decked out white QX56 (service adviser says he gets a new Infiniti every year, and has been their customer for quite some time).

He was always a big car guy! IIRC he had a Porsche Gemballa inside one of his album covers...

[68_427]

He also had a song called "cars" recently IIRC

[SVT666]

There are at least three other cars in the category that are better than the Civic....but it's not my money.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

He also had a song called "cars" recently IIRC

Herr's a few of his cars....
http://www.celebritycarsblog.com/celebrity/sir-mix-a-lot/

[12,000 RPM]

There are at least three other cars in the category that are better than the Civic....but it's not my money.

Name the other three, outside of the Mazda3. Focus is alright, but a manual Titanium is impossible to find by me. Do they even make manual Titaniums? And thanks to the Focus' weight penalty the Civic gives up nothing to it in a straight line despite its power advantage Rabbit? It's OK but overweight and gets bad gas mileage for what it is. What else is there in this segment?

Not to mention, eventual mods will be compulsory. I dont know whats out there for the 3 or Focus. But for the Civic I can put together a decent suspension and OEM BBK (off of pretty much any big Honda- Accord V6, TL, RL, w/e) for not much money, research, or effort. Won't do much to the motor besides an intake most likely but again I'm not buying this for speed.

If I could go new I would def look at the current Mazda 3. That car is just too sexy. A Japanese Golf but with a better design and better reliability. I'm not sure why it's about half a second slower to 60 than the Accord with the same HP and less weight (Im guessing 2 shifts to 60) but that shit dont matter. In any case thats not where my money is now (plus I dont think I will ever buy new).

[MX793]

Tell me more. What was wrong with it?

The 09 I drove was OK. Revving out to 8K for low 15 second 1/4 performance gets old fast though. And it was so loud. I don't know if the car I drove had an intake/exhaust or what. But that engine note dominated the driving experience.

Honda didn't adjust the gearing when they changed to the 2.4.  It's geared way too short for that engine's power band, which has 1000 less revs to work with.

[Cookie Monster]

Tell me more. What was wrong with it?

The 09 I drove was OK. Revving out to 8K for low 15 second 1/4 performance gets old fast though. And it was so loud. I don't know if the car I drove had an intake/exhaust or what. But that engine note dominated the driving experience.

I really hate the driving position. Once I got my seating position right I ended up not being able to see the speedo at all. Just a complicated interior that felt very cheap. I didn't get to see how it handled but steering feel was kind of numb. The worst part by far was the rev hang though. It made me feel like I couldn't drive a manual since it took forever for the revs to come down, which resulted in jerky shifts. Plus the VTEC switchover wasn't very exciting either.

On the plus side, it does have good visibility, a great clutch and nice shifter. Still though, as the only fun car that Honda makes it's a huge disappointment.

[CALL_911]

I've never driven an 06-11 Si, I've wanted to try one out for a while

[12,000 RPM]

Dont have high expectations

Its not BAD, per se, but it's different, and might be a little annoying on the street coming from the torquey GTI

Wifey really hated it. Induction note was omnipresent which I guess can be a good thing depending on what you want. It's not what I wanted.

[Xer0]

I really hate the driving position. Once I got my seating position right I ended up not being able to see the speedo at all. Just a complicated interior that felt very cheap. I didn't get to see how it handled but steering feel was kind of numb. The worst part by far was the rev hang though. It made me feel like I couldn't drive a manual since it took forever for the revs to come down, which resulted in jerky shifts. Plus the VTEC switchover wasn't very exciting either.

On the plus side, it does have good visibility, a great clutch and nice shifter. Still though, as the only fun car that Honda makes it's a huge disappointment.

The rev hang is solved by an ECU tune.  The steering unfortunately is stuck that way.

[12,000 RPM]

Is the 8th gen steering electric or hydraulic? Either way it didnt have much feel in either car.

Got an alignment done with some other shit on the Z. Car handles better at the limit, much more predictable.

[SVT666]

Name the other three, outside of the Mazda3. Focus is alright, but a manual Titanium is impossible to find by me. Do they even make manual Titaniums? And thanks to the Focus' weight penalty the Civic gives up nothing to it in a straight line despite its power advantage Rabbit? It's OK but overweight and gets bad gas mileage for what it is. What else is there in this segment?

Not to mention, eventual mods will be compulsory. I dont know whats out there for the 3 or Focus. But for the Civic I can put together a decent suspension and OEM BBK (off of pretty much any big Honda- Accord V6, TL, RL, w/e) for not much money, research, or effort. Won't do much to the motor besides an intake most likely but again I'm not buying this for speed.

If I could go new I would def look at the current Mazda 3. That car is just too sexy. A Japanese Golf but with a better design and better reliability. I'm not sure why it's about half a second slower to 60 than the Accord with the same HP and less weight (Im guessing 2 shifts to 60) but that shit dont matter. In any case thats not where my money is now (plus I dont think I will ever buy new).

The 3 is so much better in every way there is no reason to buy anything else. 

[12,000 RPM]

The new one, sure. If you know where they are selling 2014 3s for 10-12K holla at a playa. The last 3 was better stock in dynamics and about equal interior wise. But there are no manual hatches within 100 miles in my price range, and the sedan is hideous compared to the Civic.

I was waiting for your response tho. Lets see a 3 do this

Best Motoring - Civic Type R vs 350Z vs Integra Type R vs NSX Type S vs S2000

[r0tor]

ZOMG!!! RACECAR!!!  Will be unfair to civic racecar unless you take it to the track

[12,000 RPM]

Im not getting a Type R or even an Si though. Point is the platform is great if you tweak it right.

[r0tor]

Im not getting a Type R or even an Si though. Point is the platform is great if you tweak it right.

But BBK!!!!!

[12,000 RPM]

[r0tor]

I concede, you are the master of your own universe

[FlatBlackCaddy]

"Lets see a 3 do this"

Insert irrelevant biased video of cars not sold in this country.

[12,000 RPM]

I posted it to show the potential of the platform with mild mods. Dont get it twisted, if I buy a small car after this it will probably be the current 3. But 09 3 vs 09 Civic, Civic wins for me