MRAP and the creeping militarisation of the police

[Mustangfan2003]

Most newer cars around here seem to be Chargers.  The Tahoe seems to be popular as well. 

[Rupert]

Seems like the most important thing would be for the steering wheel to telescope. Wouldn't want you guys' stomachs getting wedged against the horn button!

[Mustangfan2003]

Looks like now a police department can get one of these trucks for the low low price of free



http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/pentagon-throwing-free-army-truck-giveaway-1507407457?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

[Catman]

Seems like the most important thing would be for the steering wheel to telescope. Wouldn't want you guys' stomachs getting wedged against the horn button!

That's one of the biggest issues with the Explorer.  No telescoping column!  That and they have constant issues.  After the continuing issues with the Explorers and the disgusting lack of reliability with our Ford ambulances (6.0 Diesel) we are thinking about dropping Ford completely.  So far, other than some dirty fuel, we've had zero issues with our Caprices and our new Chevy Ambulance has been awesome. 

[saxonyron]

I agree with Madman.  This is a very dangerous trend and doesn't pass the sniff test.  I can almost see giving away military surplus, but buying a brand new $300,000 rolling fortress for Keene NH through a Homeland (In)Security grant?  There is no legitimate police operation that needs that kind of vehicle. Sorry guys.  You cops might be too close to see the forest for the trees, but take and objective step back and re-look at things.  Any time the government starts to accumulate too much power, or any time they feel the need to greatly overstep their mission, it's time to question motives.  Eerily similar to what drove my grandparents to leave Germany prior to Adolf's big bash.  My "WTF?" meter is pegged.

MSNBC Article Excerpt:
The city of Keene, N.H., population 23,000, nestled in a valley in the state's southwest corner, may not be the first place that comes to mind as a terrorism target, but this summer it will take delivery on a $286,000 armored vehicle, compliments of the Department of Homeland Security.
The Lenco "BearCat," fitted with thermal imaging, radiation and explosive gas detection systems, gun mounts and rotating hatch is but one example of the kind of quasi-military equipment that has been acquired by local and state law enforcement agencies through billions of dollars worth of federal grant money in the last decade.

[Eye of the Tiger]

It may have no legitimate purpose and be a total waste of money, but it is sure one hell of a kick ass looking truck.

[Soup DeVille]

Lenco; don't they also make drag race transmissions?

[hounddog]

  There is no legitimate police operation that needs that kind of vehicle. Sorry guys.  You cops might be too close to see the forest for the trees, but take and objective step back and re-look at things.

Really, NO legitimate police operation? 

None? 

Not one single incident in which you might want to carry an armed fire-team into a situation where they can get close and end a threat, like a mass shooting? 

Not one comes to mind?

Really?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/17/mass-shootings-us_n_3935978.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/GunsAreCool/wiki/2013massshootings


MASS SHOOTING Tracker

2013

Number 1: 1/1/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Hawthorne, CA
Number 2: 1/1/13, Desmen Noble, Damian Bell, 1 dead 4 injured, Lorain, OH
Number 3: 1/1/13, Julian Sims, 4 injured, McKeesport, PA
Number 4: 1/1/13, Carlito Montoya, 4 dead, Sacramento, CA
Number 5: 1/5/13, Sonny Archuleta, 4 dead, Aurora, CO
Number 6: 1/7/13, Cedric and James Poore (brothers), 5 dead, Tulsa, OK
Number 7: 1/7/13, Sandra Palmer, 2 dead 2 injured, Greensboro, NC
Number 8: 1/7/13, Herbert Bland Jr., 23, 3 dead 1 injured, Dinwiddie, VA
Number 9: 1/10/13, Donald Johnson, 3 dead 2 injured, New Orleans, LA
Number 10: 1/12/13, Tresvon Spencer, 1 dead 4 injured, Tuscaloosa, AL
Number 11: 1/19/13, Nehemiah Griego, 5 dead, Albuquerque, NM
Number 12: 1/21/13, Unknown, 5 injured, New Orleans, LA
Number 13: 1/21/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Brentwood, CA
Number 14: 1/25/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, St. Louis, MO
Number 15: 1/26/13, Julian Johnson, 1 dead 3 injured, Springfield, OH
Number 16: 1/26/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Washington DC
Number 17: 1/27/13, Wilbert Thibodeaux, 2 dead 2 injured, Charenton, LA
Number 18: 1/30/13, Arthur Douglas Harmon, 3 dead 1 injured, Phoenix, AZ
Number 19: 2/1/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Oakland, CA
Number 20: 2/2/13, Sundra Payne, 5 injured, Memphis, TN
Number 21: 2/3/13, Jackie Spears; Kelcie Stewart, 2 dead 2 injured, Memphis, TN
Number 22: 2/3/13, Christopher Dorner, 5 dead 4 injured, Began in Riverside, CA
Number 23: 2/3/13, Kong Meng Vue, Ryan Cha, Ken Cha, 1 dead 3 injured, Olivehurst, CA
Number 24: 2/6/13, Mayra Perez, 3 dead 1 injured, Denver, CO
Number 25: 2/7/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 26: 2/9/13, Malcolm Hall, Brandon Brown, Deron Bridgewater, 4 injured, New Orleans, LA
Number 27: 2/11/13, Nhan Lap Tran, 1 dead 4 injured, Oakdale, MN
Number 28: 2/11/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Vallejo, CA
Number 29: 2/11/13, Thomas Matusiewicz, 3 dead 2 injured, Wilmington, DE
Number 30: 2/12/13, Two suspects, David Fresques in custody and Davis Fotu at large, 3 dead 1 injured, Suburban Salt Lake City(Midvale), UT
Number 31: 2/13/13, Joseph Matteson, 2 dead 2 injured, Red Springs, NC
Number 32: 2/16/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Winston-Salem, NC
Number 33: 2/19/13, Ali Sayed, 4 dead 3 injured, Tustin, CA
Number 34: 2/21/13, Carlos Zuniga, 2 dead 2 injured, Miami, FL
Number 35: 2/21/13, Mark Hopkins, 1 dead 3 injured, Tulsa, OK
Number 36: 2/22/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Grand Rapids, MI
Number 37: 2/23/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Oakland, CA
Number 38: 2/23/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Lancaster, CA
Number 39: 2/24/13, Unknown, 8 injured, Macon, GA
Number 40: 3/2/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Shreveport, LA
Number 41: 3/3/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Moultrie, GA
Number 42: 3/3/13, Unknown, 6 injured, Houston, TX
Number 43: 3/4/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Saginaw, MI
Number 44: 3/4/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Los Banos, CA
Number 45: 3/5/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Indianapolis, IN
Number 46: 3/5/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Fuquay-Varina, NC
Number 47: 3/7/13, Joshua Hurst, 2 dead 2 injured, Jackson, MS
Number 48: 3/8/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Buffalo, NY
Number 49: 3/11/13, Taleb Hussein Yousef Salameh, 1 dead 3 injured, North Liberty, IA
Number 50: 3/11/13, Andrew Davon Allen and Craig Willson, 13 injured, Washington, DC
Number 51: 3/13/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Oceanside, CA
Number 52: 3/13/13, Kurt Myers, 5 dead 2 injured, Herkimer, NY
Number 53: 3/14/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Modesto, CA
Number 54: 3/14/13, Angelica Vazquez, 4 dead, Mesquite, TX
Number 55: 3/16/13, Unknown, 7 injured, Galt, CA
Number 56: 3/17/13, Unknown, 2 dead 4 injured, Stockton, CA
Number 57: 3/17/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Belle Glade, FL
Number 58: 3/20/13, Brandon Menefee, 3 dead 1 injured, Jefferson County, AL
Number 59: 3/21/13, Unknown, 7 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 60: 3/21/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Kansas City, MO
Number 61: 3/22/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, New York, NY
Number 62: 3/23/13, Joseph Brown, 1 dead 3 injured, Brooklyn, NY
Number 63: 3/26/13, Unknown, 4 injured, St. Petersberg, FL
Number 64: 3/31/13, Unknown, 3 dead 1 injured, Auburn, WA
Number 65: 3/31/13, Unknown, 2 dead 3 injured, Merced County, CA
Number 66: 4/2/13, Unknown, 4 dead 1 injured, San Juan, Puerto Rico
Number 67: 4/6/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Greenwood, SC
Number 68: 4/6/13, Unknown spree shooter, 4 injured, Philadelphia, PA
Number 69: 4/7/13, Matthew Wilson, 1 dead 3 injured, Manhatten, Kansas
Number 70: 4/7/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Long Beach, CA
Number 71: 4/9/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Philadelphia, PA
Number 72: 4/10/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Vallejo, CA
Number 73: 4/13/13, Trenton Ore, Joven Covington, 5 injured, Norfolk, VA
Number 74: 4/13/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Merced, CA
Number 75: 4/14/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Lexington, KY
Number 76: 4/14/13, Unknown, 2 dead 4 injured, Phoenix, AZ
Number 77: 4/18/13, Unknown, 4 dead, Akron, OH
Number 78: 4/18/13, Kenneth Phillip, 2 dead 2 injured, Northhampton, PA
Number 79: 4/18/13, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 2 dead 2 injured, Boston, MA
Number 80: 4/20/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Modesto, CA
Number 81: 4/20/13, Christine Squire, 2 dead 2 injured, Richmond, VA
Number 82: 4/22/13, Dennis Clark III, 5 dead 2 injured, Federal Way, WA
Number 83: 4/22/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Englewood, Illinois
Number 84: 4/22/13, Davante Robertson, Charlie A. Gumms, Frankie Hookman, Jr and Lashawn Davis, 5 injured, Havey, Louisiana
Number 85: 4/24/13, Rick Odell Smith, 6 dead 1 injured, Manchester, IL
Number 86: 4/25/13, Sean M. Woodings, 4 injured, Oberlin, Ohio
Number 87: 4/27/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Williston, FL
Number 88: 4/28/13, Neville Lynch, Mark Rose, 4 injured, Lauderdale Lakes, FL
Number 89: 4/28/13, Kyle T. Flack, 4 dead, Ottawa, KA
Number 90: 4/28/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Charlotte, NC
Number 91: 4/28/13, Unknown drive-by, 1 dead 3 injured, Chester, PA
Number 92: 4/28/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Jackson, Tennessee
Number 93: 5/2/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Newark, NJ
Number 94: 5/4/13, Krystal Olymica David, 4 injured, Smithfield, NC
Number 95: 5/4/13, Unknown drive-by, 4 dead 6 injured, Aguas Buenas, PR
Number 96: 5/5/13, Unknown drive-by, 6 injured, E. Palo Alto, CA
Number 97: 5/5/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Oakland, CA
Number 98: 5/6/13, Two boys, 10, 11, 4 injured, Ocean Township, NJ
Number 99: 5/6/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Johnstown, PA
Number 100: 5/8/13, Ralph Robert Warren III, 4 dead, Hendersonville, NC
Number 101: 5/10/13, Unknown, 3 dead 1 injured, Harbor Gateway (Los Angeles), CA
Number 102: 5/11/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Jersey City, NJ
Number 103: 5/11/13, Unknown, 4 injured, East Germantown, PA
Number 104: 5/11/13, Samuel E. Sallee, 4 dead, Waynesville, IN
Number 105: 5/12/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Hollister, CA
Number 106: 5/12/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Apache Junction, AZ
Number 107: 5/12/13, Unknown, 19 injured, New Orleans, LA
Number 108: 5/12/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Newark, NJ
Number 109: 5/13/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Winton Hills, OH
Number 110: 5/15/13, Jeremiah Bean, 5 dead, Fernley, NV
Number 111: 5/15/13, Arrest made 5/21, 1 dead 4 injured, Detroit, MI
Number 112: 5/16/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Philladelphia, PA
Number 113: 5/18/13, Unknown, 3 dead 3 injured, Las Piedras, PR
Number 114: 5/19/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, South Memphis, TN
Number 115: 5/19/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Detroit, MI
Number 116: 5/19/13, Codarrell Lee Yates, 4 injured, Lunenburg, VA
Number 117: 5/20/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 118: 5/21/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Madison County, AL
Number 119: 5/21/13, Albert Peterson, 4 dead, Herndon, VA
Number 120: 5/23/13, Jason Brian Holt, 2 dead 2 injured, Knoxville, TN
Number 121: 5/23/13, Evellis T. McGee and Karon D. Thomas, 1 dead 3 injured, Saginaw, MI
Number 122: 5/24/13, Julio Jesus Romero, 2 dead 2 injured, Bakersfield, CA
Number 123: 5/25/13, Antonio King Green, 1 dead 3 injured, Flint, MI
Number 124: 5/25/13, Ryan Taybron, 15, and Eric Nixon, 17, 1 dead 4 injured, Hampton, VA
Number 125: 5/26/13, Esteban J. Smith, 3 dead 5 injured, Eden, TX & Jacksonville, NC
Number 126: 5/28/13, Unknown, 5 dead, Sells, AZ
Number 127: 5/28/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Memphis, TN
Number 128: 5/29/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Chicago (Bronzeville), IL
Number 129: 5/31/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Atlanta, GA
Number 130: 6/1/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Vallejo, CA
Number 131: 6/1/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Milwaukee, WI
Number 132: 6/2/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Indianapolis, IN
Number 133: 6/2/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Virginia Beach, VA
Number 134: 6/2/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Roanoke, VA
Number 135: 6/2/13, Xavier Edmondson and Lewis Antonio, 7 injured, LaGrange, GA
Number 136: 6/3/13, Manuel Mata III, 2 dead 2 injured, Las Vegas, NV
Number 137: 6/4/13, Johnny Simpson, 2 dead 2 injured, Shoreview, MN
Number 138: 6/5/13, St. Charles resident, 10 injured, Elburn, IL
Number 139: 6/7/13, John Zawahri, 5 dead 5 injured, Santa Monica, CA
Number 140: 6/9/13, Unknown, 4 injured, York City, PA
Number 141: 6/10/13, Davonta Coleman, 6 injured, St. Louis, MO
Number 142: 6/10/13, Unknown, 1 dead 5 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 143: 6/11/13, David Andrus, 4 dead, Darien, IL
Number 144: 6/12/13, Ahmed Dirir, 4 dead, St. Louis, MO
Number 145: 6/14/13, Unknown, 4 injured, High Point, NC
Number 146: 6/15/13, Earnest Woodley, 4 injured, Nashville, TN
Number 147: 6/15/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Houston, TX
Number 148: 6/16/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 149: 6/18/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Berkeley, MO
Number 150: 6/19/13, Gary W. Stewart Jr., 3 dead 1 injured, Louisville, KY
Number 151: 6/21/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, (Kelvyn Park) Chicago, IL
Number 152: 6/21/13, Darren Lamont Roberts and Kyle Edward Thornton, 6 injured, Norfolk, VA
Number 153: 6/21/13, Lakim Anthony Faust, 5 injured, Greenville, NC
Number 154: 6/22/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Baltimore, MD
Number 155: 6/22/13, Kamal "Rico" Edge, 1 dead 4 injured, Paterson, NJ
Number 156: 6/22/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Providence, RI
Number 157: 6/23/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Chattanooga, TN
Number 158: 6/23/13, Elijah Rodgers, 1 dead 3 injured, Sacramento, CA
Number 159: 6/23/13, Unknown, 1 dead 8 injured, Kansas City, MO
Number 160: 6/23/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Gentilly, LA
Number 161: 6/23/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Virginia Beach, VA
Number 162: 6/24/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Kansas City, MO
Number 163: 6/25/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 164: 6/27/13, Tierra Fallin, 1 dead 3 injured, Baltimore, MD
Number 165: 6/27/13, Manuel Talamantez, Christina Martinez, 2 dead 2 injured, Three Rivers, CA
Number 166: 6/28/13, Unknown, 6 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 167: 6/29/13, Ronald Reid, Barry Stinson, 3 dead 1 injured, North Charleston, SC
Number 168: 6/30/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Aurora, CO
Number 169: 6/30/13, Unknown, 9 injured, Brooklyn, NY
Number 170: 7/1/13, Amos Wells, 4 dead, Fort Worth, TX
Number 171: 7/2/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Montgomery, AL
Number 172: 7/3/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Calais, Maine
Number 173: 7/4/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Woodlawn, IL
Number 174: 7/4/13, Robert Marion Naylor, 1 dead 6 injured, Pontiac, MI
Number 175: 7/5/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Macon, GA
Number 176: 7/6/13, Chauncy Laray Mitchell, 4 injured, Florence, AL
Number 177: 7/6/13, Unknown, 1 dead 7 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 178: 7/6/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Los Angeles, CA
Number 179: 7/6/13, Brandon Reese, 1 dead 3 injured, Brooklyn, NY
Number 180: 7/7/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Meridian, Miss.
Number 181: 7/7/13, Unknown, 1 dead 5 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 182: 7/7/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Pompano Beach, FL
Number 183: 7/7/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Stockton, CA
Number 184: 7/9/13, Lamont Jones, 4 injured, Balimore, MD
Number 185: 7/9/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Rockford, IL
Number 186: 7/10/13, Konrad Schafer, 15, and David Damus, 20, 2 dead 12 injured, Kissimmee, FL
Number 187: 7/11/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Charlotte, NC
Number 188: 7/12/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Hamilton Township, NJ
Number 189: 7/12/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, San Francicsco, CA
Number 190: 7/12/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Greensburg, KY
Number 191: 7/13/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Oklahoma City, OK
Number 192: 7/13/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Washington DC
Number 193: 7/14/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Wichita, KS
Number 194: 7/14/13, Billie McKinney, 5 injured, Kentwood, MI
Number 195: 7/14/13, Phillip Brierly Jr., 2 dead 2 injured, Lexington, SC
Number 196: 7/17/13, Darnell Williams, Joe Carroll, 3 dead 1 injured, Oakland, CA
Number 197: 7/19/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Madera, CA
Number 198: 7/19/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Hartford, CT
Number 199: 7/20/13, Devin Spann, 5 injured, Campbell, OH
Number 200: 7/21/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Brooklyn (Bushwick), NY
Number 201: 7/21/13, Terrence Lynom, Angelo Clark, 1 dead 3 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 202: 7/21/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Fort Pierce, FL
Number 203: 7/21/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Brooklyn (Crown Heights), NY
Number 204: 7/24/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Topeka, KS
Number 205: 7/25/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Inkster, MI
Number 206: 7/26/13, Sidney A. Muller, 4 dead, Clarksburg, WV
Number 207: 7/26/13, Pedro Alberto Vargas, 7 dead, Hialea, FL
Number 208: 7/27/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Farmington, NM
Number 209: 7/28/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Granger, WA
Number 210: 7/28/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Irvington, NJ
Number 211: 7/28/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Dallas, TX
Number 212: 7/30/13, Parrish Chee, 4 injured, Lea County (Hobbs), NM
Number 213: 8/2/13, Unknown, 4 dead, Whitesburg, KY
Number 214: 8/2/13, Unknown, 2 dead 3 injured, Newark, NJ
Number 215: 8/2/13, Tristan Crayton, 4 injured, Broad Ripple, IN
Number 216: 8/3/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Detriot, MI
Number 217: 8/4/13, Giovanni Pacheco, 3 dead 4 injured, Salinas, CA
Number 218: 8/4/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Kansas City, Mo
Number 219: 8/5/13, Rockne Newell, 3 dead 4 injured, Ross Township, PA
Number 220: 8/5/13, Suspect known., 4 injured, Montclair, NJ
Number 221: 8/7/13, Erbie Bowser, 4 dead 4 injured, Dallas, TX
Number 222: 8/11/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Flatbush, NY
Number 223: 8/11/13, Nikko Jenkins, 4 dead, Omaha, NE
Number 224: 8/11/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Wilmington, Del.
Number 225: 8/11/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, St. Louis, MO
Number 226: 8/11/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Portsmouth, VA
Number 227: 8/12/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Cincinnati, OH
Number 228: 8/16/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Kingsessing, PA
Number 229: 8/17/13, Demetrius Ward, 4 injured, Oakland, CA
Number 230: 8/18/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 231: 8/18/13, Darryl Sain, 4 injured, St. Louis, MO
Number 232: 8/18/13, Dontrel Shyhee Blakeney, 17, 1 dead 4 injured, Chesterfield County, SC
Number 233: 8/18/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Rochester, NY
Number 234: 8/18/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Toledo, OH
Number 235: 8/18/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Port Norris, NJ
Number 236: 8/19/13, Kelsky Patterson, 1 dead 4 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 237: 8/20/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Vanceboro, NC
Number 238: 8/20/13, Melville Mason, 2 dead 2 injured, Baltimore, MD
Number 239: 8/20/13, Daniel Livingston Green, 4 dead, Oklahoma City, OK
Number 240: 8/22/13, Jim Edwards, 2 dead 2 injured, Shaler, PA
Number 241: 8/23/13, Unknown, 1 dead 6 injured, Baltimore, MD
Number 242: 8/24/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Indianapolis, IN
Number 243: 8/25/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Dillon County, SC
Number 244: 8/25/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Minneapolis, MN
Number 245: 8/25/13, Hubert Allen, Jr., 3 dead 2 injured, Lake Butler, FL
Number 246: 8/25/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Oakland, CA
Number 247: 8/28/13, Devonere Simmonds, 3 dead 2 injured, Columbus, OH
Number 248: 9/5/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Charlotte, NC
Number 249: 9/7/13, Unknown, 2 dead 4 injured, Gary, IN
Number 250: 9/7/13, Darnell Hollings, 1 dead 3 injured, St. Louis, MO
Number 251: 9/10/13, Roderick Rodgers, David Anderson, 1 dead 4 injured, Bridgeport, CT
Number 252: 9/11/13, Jacob Bennett, Brittany Moser, 4 dead, Renegade Mountain, TN
Number 253: 9/11/13, Unknown, 4 injured, New York, NY
Number 254: 9/11/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Washington DC
Number 255: 9/13/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Centreville, IL
Number 256: 9/14/13, Earl Spencer Boyce, 4 injured, Marion, NC
Number 257: 9/15/13, Robert E. Bell, 3 dead 1 injured, Snellville, GA
Number 258: 9/15/13, Unknown, 6 injured, Yakima, WA
Number 259: 9/15/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Bakersfield, CA
Number 260: 9/15/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Wilmington, DE
Number 261: 9/15/13, Unknown, 7 injured, Fresno, CA
Number 262: 9/15/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Colorado Springs, CO
Number 263: 9/16/13, Aaron Alexis, 13 dead 8 injured, Washington DC
Number 264: 9/17/13, Unknown, 4 dead, West Broward, FL
Number 265: 9/17/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Stockton, CA
Number 266: 9/17/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Lansing, MI
Number 267: 9/17/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Las Vegas, NV
Number 268: 9/18/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Kissimmee, FL
Number 269: 9/18/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Bakersfield, CA
Number 270: 9/18/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Whitehaven, TN
Number 271: 9/19/13, Tabari Young, Bryon Champ, 13 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 272: 9/20/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Long Beach, CA
Number 273: 9/20/13, Guadalupe Ronquillo-Ovalle, 5 dead, Rice, TX
Number 274: 9/21/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Palm Springs, FL
Number 275: 9/22/13, Unknown, 1 dead 6 injured, Witchita, KA
Number 276: 9/22/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, St. Louis, MO
Number 277: 9/22/13, Antonio Keshawn Raglin, 3 dead 1 injured, Muskegon, MI
Number 278: 9/24/13, Antonio Michael Smith, 6 injured, Huntington, WV
Number 279: 9/25/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Haw River, NC
Number 280: 9/26/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Jacksonville, FL
Number 281: 9/27/13, Unknown, 4 dead, Ashville, PA
Number 282: 9/29/13, Unknown, 4 injured, ZanesVille, OH
Number 283: 9/29/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Chicago, IL
Number 284: 10/2/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Omaha, NE
Number 285: 10/2/13, Andy Keith Hunt, 4 dead, Double Springs, AL
Number 286: 10/5/13, Unknown, 1 dead 13 injured, Fresno, CA
Number 287: 10/6/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Buffalo, NY
Number 288: 10/6/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Avondale, AZ
Number 289: 10/6/13, Unknown, 1 dead 5 injured, Phillidelphia, PA
Number 290: 10/8/13, Unknown, 4 dead, Paris, TX
Number 291: 10/12/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Tulsa, OK
Number 292: 10/12/13, Boonmlee Lee, Meng Lee, 5 injured, Tulsa, OK
Number 293: 10/13/13, Unknown, 8 injured, Harrisburg, PA
Number 294: 10/18/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Margate, FL
Number 295: 10/20/13, Benjamin Frazier, 1 dead 4 injured, Las Vegas, NV
Number 296: 10/20/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Miami-Dade, FL
Number 297: 10/20/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Reno, NV
Number 298: 10/20/13, Unknown, 2 dead 4 injured, Pittsburgh, PA
Number 299: 10/26/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Miami Gardens, FL
Number 300: 10/26/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Ridgecrest, CA
Number 301: 10/26/13, Michael Guzzo, 5 dead, Phonix, AZ
Number 302: 10/26/13, Unknown, 1 dead 5 injured, New Haven, CT
Number 303: 10/27/13, Michael Guzzo, 5 dead, Phoenix, AZ
Number 304: 10/27/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Southern Pines, NC
Number 305: 10/27/13, Unknown, 1 dead 6 injured, Sacramento, CA
Number 306: 10/27/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Beaumont, TX
Number 307: 10/27/13, Unknown, 1 dead 7 injured, Vallejo, CA
Number 308: 10/27/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Albuquerque, NM
Number 309: 10/27/13, Samuel Nathan Duran, 6 injured, Roseville, CA
Number 310: 10/28/13, Charles Everett Brownlow Jr., 5 dead, Terrell, TX
Number 311: 10/29/13, Bryan Sweatt, 6 dead, Callison, SC
Number 312: 10/31/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Fayetteville, NC
Number 313: 11/2/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Radcliff, KY
Number 314: 11/3/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Los Angeles, CA
Number 315: 11/4/13, Jose Luis Avalos, 5 injured, Perris, CA
Number 316: 11/5/13, Victor Leon Coley, 4 injured, Washington D.C.
Number 317: 11/5/13, Unknown, 3 dead 7 injured, Detroit, MI
Number 318: 11/5/13, Jerry Vue, 1 dead 3 injured, Fresno, CA
Number 319: 11/7/13, Unknown, 4 dead, Jacksonville, FL
Number 320: 11/9/13, Willie Young, Randy Stewart, 2 dead 16 injured, Cyprus, TX
Number 321: 11/9/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Phoenix, AZ
Number 322: 11/10/13, Ali Akbar Mohammadi Rafie, 4 dead 1 injured, Brooklyn, NY
Number 323: 11/10/13, Dwight Ellis, 1 dead 3 injured, Canton, OH
Number 324: 11/12/13, Michael Sanders, 4 dead, Phoenix, AZ
Number 325: 11/17/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Houston, TX
Number 326: 11/20/13, Johnathan Sanchez, 3 dead 2 injured, Houston, TX
Number 327: 11/20/13, Roberto Garcia Sousa, 3 dead 1 injured, Miami-Dade, FL
Number 328: 11/21/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Philadelphia, PA
Number 329: 11/22/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Columbus, OH
Number 330: 11/23/13, Unknown, 4 dead 1 injured, Tulsa, OK
Number 331: 11/23/13, David Cornell Bennett Jr., 4 dead, Parsons, KA
Number 332: 11/24/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Minneapolis, MN
Number 333: 11/25/13, Unknown, 7 injured, Oakland, CA
Number 334: 11/28/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Rochester, NY
Number 335: 11/29/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Indianapolis, IN
Number 336: 11/29/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Fresno, CA
Number 337: 11/30/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Valdosta, GA
Number 338: 11/30/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Lansing, MI
Number 339: 12/1/13, Unknown, 4 dead, Topeka, KA
Number 340: 12/1/13, Unknown, 2 dead 2 injured, Miami, FL
Number 341: 12/2/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Gary, IN
Number 342: 12/3/13, Tim Adams, 4 dead, Alma, AL
Number 343: 12/3/13, Chad Smith and Tony Churchill, 4 injured, Louisville, KY
Number 344: 12/3/13, Herbert Clyde Hughes Jr., 4 dead, Erwin, TN
Number 345: 12/7/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Wilmington, DE
Number 346: 12/8/13, Unknown, 4 dead, Manchester, CT
Number 347: 12/9/13, Unknown, 2 dead 3 injured, Miami-Dade, FL
Number 348: 12/13/13, Antonio Devon Brown, 1 dead 3 injured, Huntington, WV
Number 349: 12/14/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Statesville, NC
Number 350: 12/15/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Channelview, TX
Number 351: 12/15/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Florida City, FL
Number 352: 12/17/13, Alan Frazier, 2 dead 2 injured, Reno, NV
Number 353: 12/21/13, Unknown, 1 dead 4 injured, Trenton, NJ
Number 354: 12/22/13, Unknown, 4 injured, Shelby, NC
Number 355: 12/22/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Fruitland Township, MI
Number 356: 12/25/13, Unknown, 1 dead 3 injured, Medford, NY
Number 357: 12/25/13, Unknown, 3 dead 2 injured, Irvington, NJ
Number 358: 12/26/13, Ben Edward Freeman, 4 dead 3 injured, Raceland, LA
Number 359: 12/26/13, Unknown, 2 dead 7 injured, Slidell, LA
Number 360: 12/29/13, Jason McWilliams, 2 dead 6 injured, Montgomary, AL
Number 361: 12/29/13, Ivan Wong, 2 dead 2 injured, Miami-Dade, FL
Number 362: 12/30/13, Abbas Lodhi, 4 dead, Pleasant Valley, NY
Number 363: 12/31/13, Unknown, 5 injured, Brooklyn, NY
Number 364: 12/31/13, Identity not yet released., 4 dead, Fontana, CA
Number 365: 12/31/13, Unknown, 2  dead 2 injured, Barberton, OH

If you think really hard now, can you come up with a scenario where one of these armored personnel carriers might come in handy? (noticed I said armored personnel carriers and not battle tank)

[Eye of the Tiger]

A $300,000 battle tank isn't necessary to neutralize one sorry excuse for a human being with a gun.

[hounddog]

It is not a battle tank.

And, there is no reason not to use a armored personnel carrier to deliver strike teams to target if it was a gift.

[Madman]

It is not a battle tank.

And, there is no reason not to use a armored personnel carrier to deliver strike teams to target if it was a gift.

When a podunk town like Lewisburg, Tennessee or North Bumfuck New Hampshire (in other words, the sort of places that only just got electricity and indoor plumbing last week) suddenly needs a military-grade vehicle for the purposes of "Law Enforcement", something is seriously wrong.  This has Orwellian Nightmare written all over it!

[hounddog]

Yes, Madman, a smallish police force with one unarmed armored personnel carrier will be the death knell for the USofA.

What REALLY smells of an Orwellian Nightmare is the regular and often circumvention of the US Constitution by YOUR president.

Careful with the hillbilly talk, Madman, your "tolerance and understanding" learned at your leftist meetings is showing through. 

[Catman]

Its not a battle tank people.  They are no more than an armored SUV.  It's not much more than the cost of an ambulance. Using aluminum fire trucks to evacuate people from active shooter situations isn't smart and without an armored vehicle sometimes impossible.  The hyperbole with some of you guys is ridiculous.

[Catman]

Keene State has a decent size campus as well

[bing_oh]

Its not a battle tank people.  They are no more than an armored SUV.  It's not much more than the cost of an ambulance. Using aluminum fire trucks to evacuate people from active shooter situations isn't smart and without an armored vehicle sometimes impossible.  The hyperbole with some of you guys is ridiculous.

Not to mention that we need them to escort the convoys of detained civilians to the FEMA death camps when the New World Order goes into effect. Duh!

[Catman]

I agree with Madman.  This is a very dangerous trend and doesn't pass the sniff test.  I can almost see giving away military surplus, but buying a brand new $300,000 rolling fortress for Keene NH through a Homeland (In)Security grant?  There is no legitimate police operation that needs that kind of vehicle. Sorry guys.  You cops might be too close to see the forest for the trees, but take and objective step back and re-look at things.  Any time the government starts to accumulate too much power, or any time they feel the need to greatly overstep their mission, it's time to question motives.  Eerily similar to what drove my grandparents to leave Germany prior to Adolf's big bash.  My "WTF?" meter is pegged.

You're listening to too many talk shows.  Rolling fortress?  Sigh.

[FoMoJo]

Considering the unwarranted use of force by police departments in this area...tasering an 80 year old woman with dementia, shooting an emotionally disturbed teen 9 times and then tasering him, various beatings, etc...it seems that the police...at least up here...would do better to spend their budget on proper training rather than on military vehicles.

[Soup DeVille]

I think it's all just a better argument for more civilians to own comparable ( or superior) vehicles.

[Soup DeVille]

Hounddog's quoting Huffington.

Now I've seen everything.

[Madman]

Yes, Madman, a smallish police force with one unarmed armored personnel carrier will be the death knell for the USofA.

What REALLY smells of an Orwellian Nightmare is the regular and often circumvention of the US Constitution by YOUR president.

Careful with the hillbilly talk, Madman, your "tolerance and understanding" learned at your leftist meetings is showing through. 

Sounds like somebody has been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh and/or Fake News Channel again! 

[Catman]

Sounds like somebody has been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh and/or Fake News Channel again! 

For someone that gives a pass to every power grab the Obama administration takes, I am surprised you have such an issue with an F450 with an armored body. It's not a "tank".

[Madman]

For someone that gives a pass to every power grab the Obama administration takes, I am surprised you have such an issue with an F450 with an armored body. It's not a "tank".

You seem to forget good ol' Dubya was the king of power grabs.  *cough* Patriot Act *cough*

[Mustangfan2003]

Not to mention that we need them to escort the convoys of detained civilians to the FEMA death camps when the New World Order goes into effect. Duh!

You let the cat out of the bag too early. 

[Soup DeVille]

You seem to forget good ol' Dubya was the king of power grabs.  *cough* Patriot Act *cough*

Your boy didn't have many qualms about keepin 'em, did he?

This Bush fixation thing, man...

[Madman]

This Bush fixation thing, man...

This Obama fixation thing, man...

[Soup DeVille]

This Obama fixation thing, man...

The dude who's in the hot seat now i salways going to be more relevant than the dude who was 6 years ago.

[bing_oh]

You seem to forget good ol' Dubya was the king of power grabs.  *cough* Patriot Act *cough*

Yea, because there were no Democrats who voted for that, right? Or voted for it to be renewed when its sunset provisions came up (like Obama in 2010).

[bing_oh]

You let the cat out of the bag too early.

Nothing to see here, people. Move along.

[Mustangfan2003]

On the subject of politics can't we all agree that both parties have done things to screw up this country? 

[hounddog]

Hounddog's quoting Huffington.

Now I've seen everything.

Fine, how about I quote ABC?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspected-shooter-dead-shooting-maryland-mall/story?id=21809168

Or wiki?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Marathon_bombings

*of special note please see secondary explosive device*

The point was not about the article, it was about the several hundred incidents each year in America where having an armored personnel carrier would be useful.