We bought a Jetta

[Madman]

That Opel V6 is trash

And yet nobody complains about it when it's under the hood of a CTS.

Classic "Not Invented Here" syndrome at play here when it comes to all the Haterade spilled on the Catera.

[MX793]

The V6 in the Catera and that in the CTS are completely unrelated.  For starters, one is a 54 degree V and the other is 60...

[Madman]

The V6 in the Catera and that in the CTS are completely unrelated.  For starters, one is a 54 degree V and the other is 60...

The 2003-04 CTS used the 3.2 litre version of the 54 degree Opel V6.

[ifcar]

And yet nobody complains about it when it's under the hood of a CTS.

Classic "Not Invented Here" syndrome at play here when it comes to all the Haterade spilled on the Catera.

Yes, Americans *hate* foreign cars.

[93JC]

The 2003-04 CTS used the 3.2 litre version of the 54 degree Opel V6.

... which was replaced by the completely unrelated 3.6 L, which most people thought dramatically improved the car.

[MrH]

How's your Villager holding up?

Let us know how you like once you get a chance to drive it.  The DSG is a hell of a transmission.

[CJ]

Average fuel consumption is at an indicated 32.5 right now. It was 30.3 yesterday.  My mom doesn't drive too quickly, and mainly highway, so I'll expect an average MPG of 35-37.

[Vinsanity]

... which was replaced by the completely unrelated 3.6 L, which most people thought dramatically improved the car.

TRUTH.

I specifically sought out the 3.6 for this exact reason.

[Raza]

Average fuel consumption is at an indicated 32.5 right now. It was 30.3 yesterday.  My mom doesn't drive too quickly, and mainly highway, so I'll expect an average MPG of 35-37.

That's not nearly as good as I had imagined.  I thought diesels got like 40+ usually?

I mean, it usually takes a few thousand miles for a gas engine to settle.  I got my best mileage in the Jetta after the 10K mark. 

[Secret Chimp]

I'd expect the ECU in modern cars needs a several drive cycles before it has itself all sorted out.

[cawimmer430]

That Opel V6 is trash

Real men order a V8 with every car. 

[280Z Turbo]

They were manufactured back in the era when Opels/Vauxhalls were pretty shitty cars by European standards but kinda sophisticated/sporty by American car standards.

[CJ]

That's not nearly as good as I had imagined.  I thought diesels got like 40+ usually?

I mean, it usually takes a few thousand miles for a gas engine to settle.  I got my best mileage in the Jetta after the 10K mark. 

It has 200 miles on it. 

[68_427]

I'm getting better mileage than every in my car.  The 175K mile break in period must be over....

[BENZ BOY15]

95% or more of the jetta wagons I see are TDIs.  It's rare to see a gas version.

Really? That's surprising given that it's the United States....diesel seems to be getting more popular (slowly but surely). I'd certainly be open to perhaps getting a diesel in the future.

Nice ride Clay! Sounds like a good fit.

[MX793]

Really? That's surprising given that it's the United States....diesel seems to be getting more popular (slowly but surely). I'd certainly be open to perhaps getting a diesel in the future.

Nice ride Clay! Sounds like a good fit.

You need to also bear in mind that wagons are also very uncommon in the US.  Not many companies offer them and those that do don't sell a lot of them.  What's more interesting is that, anecdotally, wagon buyers and diesel buyers seem cut from the same cloth.

[Madman]

95% or more of the jetta wagons I see are TDIs.  It's rare to see a gas version.

Really?

Yes, really.  I've noticed the exact same thing.

[AutobahnSHO]

What's more interesting is that, anecdotally, wagon buyers and diesel buyers seem cut from the same cloth.

Practical?

I seriously fail to understand our love affair with sedans. So you cut off part of the car and more people buy them??

[Laconian]

Quirky...

[MX793]

Practical?

I seriously fail to understand our love affair with sedans. So you cut off part of the car and more people buy them??

People love SUVs (essentially the same shape as a wagon), but they won't drive wagons.  Most CUVs these days are just tall wagons, but as long as they aren't called wagons, people seem to eat them up.

[Secret Chimp]

I keep suggesting 90s Accord wagon as a decent gas-saver over the Tribute but waifu just does not want to drive down with everyone else. The seating position alone is what a lot of people are just stuck steadfast to.

[Northlands]

Practical?

I seriously fail to understand our love affair with sedans. So you cut off part of the car and more people buy them??

People are hung up on the looks and not so much on the practicality or driving dynamics. Wagons act more like cars do, but SUVs = perceived manliness. But with less space, worse mileage and handling. On average, of course.

[Raza]

I keep suggesting 90s Accord wagon as a decent gas-saver over the Tribute but waifu just does not want to drive down with everyone else. The seating position alone is what a lot of people are just stuck steadfast to.

Ugh, I hate driving high up. 

[12,000 RPM]

I keep suggesting 90s Accord wagon as a decent gas-saver over the Tribute but waifu just does not want to drive down with everyone else. The seating position alone is what a lot of people are just stuck steadfast to.

Accord wagon is paper maiche

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[Mustangfan2003]

People love SUVs (essentially the same shape as a wagon), but they won't drive wagons.  Most CUVs these days are just tall wagons, but as long as they aren't called wagons, people seem to eat them up.

People are stupid.  If it's weather you are worried about get an awd wagon. 

[CALL_911]

Ugh, I hate driving high up.

I thought I would. While I prefer being low to the ground, I kind of liked the driving position of the Yukon I drove this summer.

[Raza]

I thought I would. While I prefer being low to the ground, I kind of liked the driving position of the Yukon I drove this summer.

I can't stand it.  Even your average midsize sedan feels high and tippy to me. 

[Secret Chimp]

Accord wagon is paper maiche

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What about that original Odyssey miniminivan doe

[TurboDan]

I can't stand it.  Even your average midsize sedan feels high and tippy to me.

I felt uncomfortable going from the VW B5.5 Passat to the LR2 but within a few days, I loved it. It now feels weird whenever I drive my dad's '02 A6, being so close to the ground. But if I went back, I'd probably get used to that too.

My girlfriend's Jeep Commander feels just about right.

People love SUVs (essentially the same shape as a wagon), but they won't drive wagons.  Most CUVs these days are just tall wagons, but as long as they aren't called wagons, people seem to eat them up.

Ahhh, marketing. My mom's Tiguan is really just a modified Golf/Scirocco (PQ35). But while she'd drop a nice amount of coin on a loaded Tiggy "SUV," you'd never catch her dead in a Golf in a million years. 

[CJ]

Average MPG is just over 37 right now.

This is a superb car. We paid a hair over $22000 for it. I saw the paperwork. Leftover 2013...not a bad deal for this car.