'15 Mustang GT vs '15 M4

Started by 12,000 RPM, May 24, 2014, 09:10:07 AM

What would you choose

2015 Mustang GT
4 (44.4%)
2015 M4
5 (55.6%)

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12,000 RPM

Seeing them side by side really makes the current one look dated.













Not crazy about the interior design but the materials look much better.
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Lebowski

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 24, 2014, 11:27:44 AM

How often do you guys find yourselves using your back seats?



Fairly often. Often enough that for weekend trips etc I usually have to take the 4runner, it would be nice to take the fun car.

It's not just amount of use though IMO, I just don't have that much interest in two doors that are as big as a four door.  If I don't need rear seats I'd rather something like a C7, and in fact the C6 worked just fine as my dd for years.

CALL_911

When I got my car, I didn't think I'd use back seats at all. I use them enough for me to sometimes wish I got the 4-door GTI, even though I think it looks stupid.


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Rupert

Mustang is still a huge car.
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SVT666

It looks huge, but it's not.  The reason it looks so big is that the trunk lid is actually 3" lower than the current car's.

68_427

And the rear is a good bit wider.
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IMO, the problem with the Musmaro is the size.
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Raza

Quote from: 68_427 on May 25, 2014, 02:37:25 PM
After the a pillar IMO yes.  It looks lower and wider.


This is one of the best comparisons I've seen in pictures.



and colors like silver make it look smaller still IMO.  (I've seen it in black/white/yellow/red/silver/gray/blue)



The last gen looks so much better.
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hotrodalex

Other than that fat booty, I like the new one better.

MrH

Ultimately though, the Mustang will always be a pony car.  It's about big power for cheap.  It's always going to be big, and handling and driving dynamics will come second.

Even though the last one put up good numbers, I didn't enjoy driving it much at all.
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: Raza  on May 26, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
The last gen looks so much better.
The last one looks like something out of the 90s. And I am not talking, 300ZX, FD3S RX-7, C4 Corvette 90s. I'm talking, PT Cruiser, New Beetle, 97 Malibu 90s. Great car, decent nose, but the b-pillar/rear window is horrible, as is the wheelwell gap/wheel fitment. Just looks unfinished.
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A-Pillar forward...current car.  A-pillar rearward...2015.

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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 26, 2014, 01:02:25 PM
The last one looks like something out of the 90s. And I am not talking, 300ZX, FD3S RX-7, C4 Corvette 90s. I'm talking, PT Cruiser, New Beetle, 97 Malibu 90s. Great car, decent nose, but the b-pillar/rear window is horrible, as is the wheelwell gap/wheel fitment. Just looks unfinished.

You've got to be kidding.
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Quote from: SVT666 on May 26, 2014, 01:24:57 PM
A-Pillar forward...current car.  A-pillar rearward...2015.
I can get behind that.
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Quote from: GoCougs on May 25, 2014, 06:05:32 PM
That is a huge ass.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 25, 2014, 02:48:31 PM
Seeing them side by side really makes the current one look dated.




The huge ass stance of the '15 is more reminiscent of the '60s models.  That they got it so perfect back then makes it hard to improve on.  However, I do like the new '15 Mustang more than the previous version.

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SJ_GTI

I like the '15 a lot better than the current model.

But I am with Lebowski re: doors and seats. I made the mistake of getting a 2-door GTI and I regretted it. If a car is going to have back seats you may as well have the doors to use them.

Although I guess Ford doesn't make a 2 seat sports car, so in that case I guess the Mustang is the only choice for "Ford guys."

mzziaz

Quote from: FoMoJo on May 26, 2014, 08:04:06 PM
The huge ass stance of the '15 is more reminiscent of the '60s models.  That they got it so perfect back then makes it hard to improve on.  However, I do like the new '15 Mustang more than the previous version.



That is one great ass.
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Quote from: hotrodalex on May 26, 2014, 11:03:40 AM
Other than that fat booty, I like the new one better.

I think I like it better too but it's a a little (WAY) too late to the tank turret styling craze a la Camaro and Challenger.

MrH

Since we've been talking sizes:



Granted, my BRZ is lowered and the Mustang isn't, but it's substantially bigger.  The difference is even more pronounced when you look at the front and compare height of the hoods.
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12,000 RPM

Im amazed the BRZ not only does well in modern crash tests but does better than the Mustang

Kind of throws that whole "high shoulder line" thing out the window. The thing has the stance of a 1996 Honda Integra.

O also its time to change your sig dude, I had no idea you upgraded the suspension/wheels.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 27, 2014, 06:51:27 PM
Im amazed the BRZ not only does well in modern crash tests but does better than the Mustang

Kind of throws that whole "high shoulder line" thing out the window. The thing has the stance of a 1996 Honda Integra.


The FRS/BRZ's superior rating is because it has a side curtain airbag for the rear seat passengers that the Mustang doesn't have.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 27, 2014, 06:51:27 PM


O also its time to change your sig dude, I had no idea you upgraded the suspension/wheels.

You gotta stay up to date on the BRZ thread man.  17x9 RPF1's on pilot super sports now.  Bilstein PSS10s.  That's about it in terms of mods right now.  I've got a few more things coming this week though.  Once they're on and I get a chance to detail it, I'll try and get a few new pictures.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on May 27, 2014, 06:51:27 PM
Im amazed the BRZ not only does well in modern crash tests but does better than the Mustang

Kind of throws that whole "high shoulder line" thing out the window. The thing has the stance of a 1996 Honda Integra.

O also its time to change your sig dude, I had no idea you upgraded the suspension/wheels.

That motor is also low as fuck, and the BRZ is very tight inside.

SVT666

Can't compare the two anyway.  Completely different cars.

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For the non GT500 I'd be surprised at 200-300 lbs. It's definitely gonna gain weight - derivative of the S197 chassis, no weight saving techniques mentioned, bigger wheels/tires, bigger brakes, a proper rear suspension, ~2" wider in the rear - but my guess would've been ~150 lbs (or, basically the Camaro).

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Quote from: GoCougs on June 01, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
For the non GT500 I'd be surprised at 200-300 lbs. It's definitely gonna gain weight - derivative of the S197 chassis, no weight saving techniques mentioned, bigger wheels/tires, bigger brakes, a proper rear suspension, ~2" wider in the rear - but my guess would've been ~150 lbs (or, basically the Camaro).

Everything I've read and seen indicates this car only shares powertrains with S197.
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