Car Chat

[HurricaneSteve]

I always knew owning a Tesla would be a blast!

None of those arguments apply.  I mean, you can apply them, but they're losing arguments.  Automatics and EVs affect the weight, driving experience, and engagement.  And safety with EVs is in question as well. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmbHpqWjMVE

[Laconian]

That was a Model S.  The S has motorized door handles that pop out as you approach the car.  You can see how that could be a problem for first responders.

The 3 has flush but mechanical door handles.  They shouldn't be a problem in an accident.

I am 90% sure that opening the "mechanical" door handle presses a button which drives a latch solenoid.

[MrH]

I am 90% sure that opening the "mechanical" door handle presses a button which drives a latch solenoid.

Correct.  There is not a mechanical release for the rear doors for the Model 3 to my knowledge.  If battery power is cut in the case of an accident, the rear doors are totally shut.

[2o6]

Also it's bad design because neither design considers people with bad dexterity. Looking at using the M3's door handles make my hands hurt.

[Laconian]

Oh dear

[afty]

Correct.  There is not a mechanical release for the rear doors for the Model 3 to my knowledge.  If battery power is cut in the case of an accident, the rear doors are totally shut.

Well I'll be damned. You're right.

[12,000 RPM]

Oh dear

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The new 3's interior is ugly too.

[r0tor]

 

[Laconian]

I'd like to see an artist rendition of grilles on cars circa 2025. We are asymptotically approaching 100% coverage.

[12,000 RPM]

I wish it were asymptomatic. Feels exponential

[r0tor]

 

I'd like to see an artist rendition of grilles on cars circa 2025. We are asymptotically approaching 100% coverage.

Maybe they will go asymmetrical so it looks like a giant wink

[MX793]

Kind of reminds me of the early 2nd generation Camaro grille.

[Laconian]

I wish it were asymptomatic. Feels exponential

We could be on the vertical part of the slope but at some point it has to level out because it's going to be the entire front of the car.

Although, trucks seem to be a case of the tail wagging the dog, where the entire vehicle grows in order to hold the oversized grille.

[r0tor]

Oh snap...
https://youtu.be/f2YpkXgQUjo

[MX793]

The T-reg is not a "car".  Unibody and independent suspension != "car".

[12,000 RPM]

We could be on the vertical part of the slope but at some point it has to level out because it's going to be the entire front of the car.

Although, trucks seem to be a case of the tail wagging the dog, where the entire vehicle grows in order to hold the oversized grille.

We will make bigger cars to make bigger grilles, until every vehicle is a giant rolling shield.

[Raza]

Oh snap...
https://youtu.be/f2YpkXgQUjo

Are they going to test the car in the next video?

That was a pretty cool video, though.  Had me interested the whole time.  And now I want a Touareg.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Are they going to test the car in the next video?

That was a pretty cool video, though.  Had me interested the whole time.  And now I want a Touareg.

V10 TDI

[CaminoRacer]

Maybe when my Mazda dies I'll build an electric VW.

https://youtu.be/qnBsjIW1nGA

[AutobahnSHO]

Got down into the 30s, first Frost on windows. Gonna have to wear a coat and gloves in Scrappy with top down.

[cawimmer430]

The Grille Of A BMW E30 3-Series Could Fit In The X7's Glove Box

Odds are that if you're purchasing a brand new or recently restyled BMW anytime between now and the near future, you'll be getting a car whose radiator grille has been hitting the gym.

So whether it's the X7 or the 7-Series LCI, or perhaps the upcoming M3 and even the updated 5-Series, some type of growth appears inevitable. The grille of the facelifted 5-Series has only grown ever-so-slightly, but in case of the M3, for example, well, let's just say that we hope you don't mind your Bimmer looking as flamboyant as possible.



This isn't the first time we've seen just how big one of these new grille designs can be when compared to an older one. We actually saw somebody hold out a second-gen 3-Series grille next to an X7 back in April, but that grille wasn't attached to a car.

Here however, we can sort of see the bigger picture thanks to Global Auto Exchange posting an image of a white X7 parked next to an old E30 3-Series Touring. The latter's kidney grille looks only slightly bigger than the X7's fuel cap, while the X7's looks like it could almost span the entire length of the E30's windshield.

In the case of the upcoming M3, BMW made a decision to beef up the front fascia considerably despite the car being pretty much the same size as the previous-generation model.

Well, with the X7, there was no precedent for such a large BMW, and we can rest assured that the automaker's designers tried on various sizes before choosing this one. Also, compared to the E30 3-Series, the X7 is wider by roughly 400 mm (15.7 inches) and taller by some 450 mm (17.7 inches), so it needed a "face" to match its larger than life persona.



Link: https://www.carscoops.com/2019/11/the-grille-of-a-bmw-e30-3-series-could-fit-in-the-x7s-glove-box/

[FoMoJo]

BMW is now officially the winner of the ugliest grille contest; formerly held by KIA.

[MX793]

RAM trucks are still worse.

[r0tor]

RAM trucks are still worse.

Until the 4 series comes out

[FoMoJo]

This is a little bit crazy, imo...2020 performance car of the year

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

This is a little bit crazy, imo...2020 performance car of the year

[Laconian]

WTF?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Veloster 

[MX793]

This is a little bit crazy, imo...2020 performance car of the year

Did they seriously complain about the Corvette's DSG slamming the rev limiter rather than automatically up shifting while in manual mode? 

What the hell has happened to auto journalists these days?  There was a time when they, rightfully, would have panned a car that executed uncommanded shifts while in manual mode, now they've gotten so soft that they pan a car for not doing the driving for them?  Maybe RT should just stick to automatics left in auto mode.

[AutobahnSHO]

This is a little bit crazy, imo...2020 performance car of the year

Hynudai's magazine bribery budget must have been HYUGE this year.......