Cadillac brand & reputation director: "We dont want to be an automotive brand"

Started by 12,000 RPM, November 30, 2014, 04:39:45 PM

veeman

Quote from: Madman on December 03, 2014, 09:13:50 AM

Another thing to consider is underneath all the glitz and bling of the Escalade lurks a plebeian pickup truck.

$60K-$80K for something based on a blue-collar work truck?  That's the crack pipe talking!

Yes, that's why they are cash cows.  No less a cash cow as any 60-80K German make.  Also, top of the line crew can pick-ups with no fancy Cadillac moniker are north of 50K.

veeman

Quote from: MrH on December 03, 2014, 01:25:17 PM
I guess that's true.  I thought it was stupid when it was popular though too.

I'm all about that understated luxury.  The early Escalade was the opposite.  Overstated mediocrity :lol:

GM has a good thing going with the GMC Yukon Denali/Escalade.  The Denali appeals to those who don't want to be flashy and the Escalade to those who want to be flashy.



12,000 RPM

Quote from: MrH on December 03, 2014, 01:25:17 PM
I guess that's true.  I thought it was stupid when it was popular though too.

I'm all about that understated luxury.  The early Escalade was the opposite.  Overstated mediocrity :lol:
The dinner plate sized three pointed star on the $299 lease special CLA pretty much sums up our generation car wise
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 03, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
The dinner plate sized three pointed star on the $299 lease special CLA pretty much sums up our generation car wise

Don't forget the LED illumination


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Quote from: CALL_911 on December 03, 2014, 02:43:23 PM
Don't forget the LED illumination


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Quote from: MX793 on December 03, 2014, 04:13:36 PM
Want to make sure nobody confuses your MB with a compact Hyundai at night.
I think I just found my million dollar idea. Hyundai Benz grilles here we come.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 03, 2014, 08:30:48 PM
I think I just found my million dollar idea. Hyundai Benz grilles here we come.

Wait do you mean Benz grills on a Hyundai, or Hyundai grills on a Benz?

MrH

I'm about to buy a Genesis. It's totally a Hyundai with a Benz looking grill.

Should I get the LED dinner plate for it?
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Quote from: hotrodalex on December 04, 2014, 12:18:27 AM
Wait do you mean Benz grills on a Hyundai, or Hyundai grills on a Benz?
I was thinking Benz grilles on a Hyundai but the Genesis logos/grilles on a CLA mite be an upgrade

Quote from: MrH on December 04, 2014, 06:22:28 AM
I'm about to buy a Genesis. It's totally a Hyundai with a Benz looking grill.

Should I get the LED dinner plate for it?
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Jesus, I can't believe that LED grill is a factory option.  What a fail.
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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on December 03, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
The dinner plate sized three pointed star on the $299 lease special CLA pretty much sums up our generation car wise

There's a $299 lease special on the CLA?  Hmm.....
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AutobahnSHO

LOL The "down payment" on most leases is more than I paid for my car.

Not that I don't want a nicer car.... :huh:
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Raza

Quote from: veeman on December 05, 2014, 05:50:22 AM
You can make it $299 a month by only putting down an extra $1,000 up front.

Probably more like $1500. 
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It usually works out to -$17 a month per $1000 down.

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Galaxy

Quote from: veeman on December 03, 2014, 01:49:29 PM
GM has a good thing going with the GMC Yukon Denali/Escalade.  The Denali appeals to those who don't want to be flashy and the Escalade to those who want to be flashy.




You call this...



... "not flashy?"


It is arguably more in your face then the Escalade.

CALL_911

You know, if I were looking for a landyacht to be driven in, I would probably eschew the S/LS/7 and go for a Yukon Denali (or even a Suburban LTZ). These things are seriously awesome for long-distance driving and for passengers.


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Quote from: CALL_911 on December 05, 2014, 06:28:03 PM
You know, if I were looking for a landyacht to be driven in, I would probably eschew the S/LS/7 and go for a Yukon Denali (or even a Suburban LTZ). These things are seriously awesome for long-distance driving and for passengers.
IDK. I rode in a last gen one. Wasn't that roomy at all. Felt like a regular car inside.
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veeman

Quote from: Galaxy on December 05, 2014, 06:19:23 PM
You call this...



... "not flashy?"

It is arguably more in your face then the Escalade.

The latest generation Denali is also flashy but not compared with the latest generation Escalade.

Galaxy

Quote from: veeman on December 05, 2014, 11:02:23 PM
The latest generation Denali is also flashy but not compared with the latest generation Escalade.

They look the same except for the grill and bumper.

veeman

Quote from: Galaxy on December 05, 2014, 11:44:58 PM
They look the same except for the grill and bumper.

It's all about the grill... hence the dinner plate LED insignia on the grill of the Mercedes.

Galaxy

Quote from: veeman on December 06, 2014, 12:39:45 AM
It's all about the grill... hence the dinner plate LED insignia on the grill of the Mercedes.

So if Mercedes had simply taken the Jeep Grand Cherokee and only exchanged the grill with one that features a bling LED star they would have had success? No.