2o6's Civic

[2o6]

Yaris is getting sold either way. Probably another drive n flip. Which means whatever needs work car with value.


Probably a 2002+ Altima or a Gen 1 Mazda 6

[Laconian]

For some reason I skimmed that as "Pontiac G6".

[J86]

Gen 1 Mazda 6

Careful with those!  Mine was less than awesome.

[2o6]

Engines in those go out fairly commonly

[J86]

Thing ate ignition coils like they were going out of style.  Doing anything on the aft cylinder bank was a royal pain in the ass due to all the dissasembly you had to do to access it.

[2o6]

I'd probably get a 4cyl

[12,000 RPM]

I thought about a 6 4 banger. They had one pretty cheap at one of the dealerships I went to. I'm just weary of Mazda, their reliability has always been spotty

[AutobahnSHO]

Hondas have sweet clutches/ transmissions.

[2o6]

Theyre not that damn special


This car has light steering with not that much feel and the car as a whole is kinda boringg

[CALL_911]

I never liked the 7th gen Civic

[12,000 RPM]

7th gen Civic is by far the worst Civic TBH. Worst power to weight ratio, worst suspension geometry, worst aesthetics. I didnt want to rain on the parade. This platform is just not worth diving into. Real Time Racing successfully lobbied the SCCA to allow it to basically completely re-engineer the rear suspension. It was terrible for competition for various reasons.

Honda transmissions are pretty good though. With mild mods (metal shifter bushings) they are the best. With internal work (strengthened syncros) they are divine. They got the design right ~30 years ago and never messed them up.

And they pretty much fixed all the issues with the 8th gen. If not for the minivan height body it would be the best Civic chassis by far.

[2o6]

I like the Minivan height and the EP3 is wonderful.



This just feels like a roomier, slightly more responsive Corolla.

The Focus MK1 beats the brakes off the Civic dynamically - even in SOHC LX guise

[2o6]

I never thought I'd miss VVT so much. The Yaris's midrange is so much stronger than the Civic

[12,000 RPM]

Yea the SOHC Civic engines have some quirks. It's apparently normal for my car to dip down 200-300 RPM at idle whenever the radiator fan kicks on, which is about once every 30 seconds once the engine is heated up and the car is still

Wonder if I can wire up a soft starter for the fan. It's pretty silly.

[hotrodalex]

It kicks down that much for an electric fan? Maybe you need a bigger alternator. Or is it a regular fan w/ a clutch?

[12,000 RPM]

Everything is OEM... Honda wanted it this way. I will bet the engine runs super weak at idle for emissions, to the point that the fan kicking on knocks it on its ass

[AutobahnSHO]

probably- idle is supposed to be as low as possible but still keep the motor turning..

[2o6]

Sporty our engines aren't the same at all....Mine is a D17

[SVT666]

Hondas have sweet clutches/ transmissions.

I'm not fond of the clutch. Too light and the engagement is pretty high for my tastes. The shifters on the other hand, are amazing.

[GoCougs]

Yea the SOHC Civic engines have some quirks. It's apparently normal for my car to dip down 200-300 RPM at idle whenever the radiator fan kicks on, which is about once every 30 seconds once the engine is heated up and the car is still

Wonder if I can wire up a soft starter for the fan. It's pretty silly.

Soft starter won't affect running torque of the fan motor. My Accord did this too a bit, and it was rocking 240 hp.

[2o6]

The shifter is okay. I don't think they're that damn good. Lots are better.


I actually like the shifter in the Yaris more.

[SVT666]

The shifter is okay. I don't think they're that damn good. Lots are better.


I actually like the shifter in the Yaris more.

Very very few shifters are better than a Honda shifter.

[Eye of the Tiger]

The shifter is okay. I don't think they're that damn good. Lots are better.


I actually like the shifter in the Yaris more.

Your Civic has one of Honda's worst shifters.

[2o6]

Your Civic has one of Honda's worst shifters.

I've noticed. The EP3 and this are night and day.

[12,000 RPM]

Sporty our engines aren't the same at all....Mine is a D17

I know, overarching point was that they can be weird. SOHC = no VVT = slightly wheezy response. It's OK though.

Soft starter won't affect running torque of the fan motor. My Accord did this too a bit, and it was rocking 240 hp.

It's the inrush current. Once the fan is running it's fine... it's that spike that kicks the alternator's ass. Trying to think of a cheap safe way to limit it.

[MrH]

I know, overarching point was that they can be weird. SOHC = no VVT = slightly wheezy response. It's OK though.
It's the inrush current. Once the fan is running it's fine... it's that spike that kicks the alternator's ass. Trying to think of a cheap safe way to limit it.

Wait, why do you care?  Does it actually stall?

[2o6]

You can get a SOHC VTEC.

[2o6]

I went out of my way to drive an EP3 today. There's one for sale on my way home from work




It's amazing - this car and mine are like night and day.

[2o6]

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4934217831.html

[Eye of the Tiger]

Why would you want to buy another car exactly like yours?