BMW 228i and M235 Cabriolets

[Payman]

Configurator...

http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/content/byo/default.aspx?Series=2&BodyStyle=Convertible

AWD/RWD, available 6 speed manual, 241 hp starts at $37k, 322 hp I6 M235 starts at $45k.

I think it looks terrific inside and out, and unlike the Miata it's not horribly more expensive in Canada (20% more vs 50+% more for the Miata).

Officially on my radar.

[Payman]

[Lebowski]

Looks nice.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Indifferent, but I should give them credit for it being rwd and more importantly a car.

[CALL_911]

Not a fan of the cabriolet, but I really really want a RWD M235i coupe.

[cawimmer430]

A buddy of mine runs a performance driving school and is an avid drifter. He recently sold his 130i E87 and got an M235i Coupe. Reminds me - I need to shoot that baby.

[SVT666]

That looks sweet.  This is what the 3 series should be.

[MexicoCityM3]

I'd personally go for the 228i coupe with track pack of the 2 series range.

The verts look fine and fortunately aren't that heavy because soft top, so still a solid choice. Test drive both, I am pretty sure the 228i is the pick.

[MrH]

4 seat convertibles...gross

[Cookie Monster]

4 seat convertibles...gross

+1

[CALL_911]

4 seat convertibles...gross

Yeah

[SVT666]

I like 4 seat convertibles when the kids are with us. I rented a Mustang vert on Maui last year and it was great. 

[2o6]

We have one in the showroom.



I don't see the hype

[Payman]

We have one in the showroom.



I don't see the hype

I don't think it's over-hyped at all.

It's a solid entry-lux convertible priced not much more than the Mustang ragtop.

[Payman]

4 seat convertibles...gross

In a pinch (pun intended) it's nice to have the rear seats on occasion. It's also really handy to one-arm your groceries into the back seat with the top down. I like that this car has a rudimentary back seat, and it's actually a selling point for me.

[ifcar]

We have one in the showroom.



I don't see the hype

I do believe it's based on what it's like to drive, not based on what it looks like when parked.

[12,000 RPM]

That looks sweet.  This is what the 3 series should be.

This IS the 3 series. The current 3 is the 5. The 5 is the 7 and the 7 is a limo.

I remember my uncle's E21 320i. It had roll up windows and cost a shit load of money. But it was cool and just felt different from my parents' Japanese commuters. This thing is as pure as BMWs come.

[MexicoCityM3]

4 seat convertibles...gross

Yeah

+1

......because the cool thing @ the Spin is discussing the nuances of the power to weight evolution of true sports cars with 155hp (or was it 160?)........

[SVT666]

This IS the 3 series. The current 3 is the 5. The 5 is the 7 and the 7 is a limo.

No kidding.  The 3 series should not have grown.  It should have stayed this size.

[12,000 RPM]

No kidding.  The 3 series should not have grown.  It should have stayed this size.

Why? It's a better car for 95% of the people who buy it. It's a 5 series for 3 series money. That's progress. Plus its moving up allows the 2 to be more focused. A 2 sedan would be cool but I doubt anyone would buy it (and it would probably be hideous).

[2o6]

To be fair, I do like the way the 228i drives a lot, but I don't think its the second coming.

I still think it's a little odd looking, and it'd be better if it were a hatchback. I wish i could compare it to a Mini (we are one of the few BMW dealers that DOESNT sell Mini)

[Char]

I hate convertibles, I would love to have this in 228i (coupe) form with a LSD.

[Char]

To be fair, I do like the way the 228i drives a lot, but I don't think its the second coming.

I still think it's a little odd looking, and it'd be better if it were a hatchback. I wish i could compare it to a Mini (we are one of the few BMW dealers that DOESNT sell Mini)

Do you even read the things you post, before you post them?
In what universe would this compete with the mini because both of them are hatchbacks? You want a wagon, I'm sure BMW makes the ugly 3 series GT :vomit:

[2o6]

Do you even read the things you post, before you post them?
In what universe would this compete with the mini because both of them are hatchbacks? You want a wagon, I'm sure BMW makes the ugly 3 series GT :vomit:

Why the fuck did I unblock you


I want to compare it to a Mini because it's a hatchback that's about the same size (sort of) as a 2 series, drive wheels non withstanding. A Cooper S and 228i are roughly comparable.


Also, have you actually been inside a 3GT? It's a really useful shape and probably the most practical 3 series variant

[CJ]

The worst thing about the current 3-Series is size.  It's pretty big outside, but the inside still feels tiny.  It's bright and airy (good!!!), but the back seat is way too small. 

[Raza]

The 2 cabriolet looks really good, actually.  I'm pleasantly surprised. 

[2o6]

The 3 series has a nice back seat for a RWD compact sedan. The car with no rear seat room goes to the ATS and A4.

[Payman]

Why the fuck did I unblock you


I want to compare it to a Mini because it's a hatchback that's about the same size (sort of) as a 2 series, drive wheels non withstanding. A Cooper S and 228i are roughly comparable.


Also, have you actually been inside a 3GT? It's a really useful shape and probably the most practical 3 series variant

I'd really like to side with you against Char-tard, but you're not making sense. That's like saying the Focus ST compares with the Mustang Convertible. The Mini is a completely different animal that better compares to the upcoming FWD 1-series BMW.

[12,000 RPM]

To us they are different but to the avg person they are both small coupes.

[Payman]

To us they are different but to the avg person they are both small coupes.

Dunno man, I can't see the average person cross shopping the two... they are too different. I don't see how an entry lux RWD convertible compares with a FWD hatchback that's in a much lower price category.