Sportsy RWD Manual Sedan $15K

[Raza]

CTS-V is a class above the rest in power, but probably lower in refinement...the base model is like that.

The IS250 lacks power and is heavy. Like 3300 pounds and only 200 horsepower. Not really getting a lot out of the chassis in that one. Probably very reliable, if it doesn't catch fire. Great looking car and it's aged well. Not a bad choice, really if you don't mind it being slow.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/423000-lexus-models-recalled-for-fire-risk-due-to-leaky-fuel-gaskets/

G35 sedan was always blah to look at and hasn't aged well. Clutch and shifter suck. Engine is good. Interior is at best okay. But reliability should be good and it's pretty quick. Probably the best choice here.

I'd prefer the 328i, but it won't be cheap to run.

Why does it have to be a sedan?

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I never thought the 1st gen G35 sedan looked all that great.  Too tall and narrow.  The 2nd gen G35 (which became the G37 in its 3rd year during the mid-cycle powertrain update) looked great and still looks great.

I agree about the g37, much better looking.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Any older is300 would be compelling if you can find one.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Otherwise stretching the budget and getting a g37 might be the best bet.

[Eye of the Tiger]

CTS-V is a class above the rest in power, but probably lower in refinement...the base model is like that.

The IS250 lacks power and is heavy. Like 3300 pounds and only 200 horsepower. Not really getting a lot out of the chassis in that one. Probably very reliable, if it doesn't catch fire. Great looking car and it's aged well. Not a bad choice, really if you don't mind it being slow.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/423000-lexus-models-recalled-for-fire-risk-due-to-leaky-fuel-gaskets/

G35 sedan was always blah to look at and hasn't aged well. Clutch and shifter suck. Engine is good. Interior is at best okay. But reliability should be good and it's pretty quick. Probably the best choice here.

I'd prefer the 328i, but it won't be cheap to run.

Why does it have to be a sedan?

Sedan is because I have a dog kid now. Dog needs to stay in back seat and have his own windows.

Cost to run is not a huge issue, as I can do most of my own work, sans anything that requires expensive proprietary tools.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Otherwise stretching the budget and getting a g37 might be the best bet.

The only thing I would go much over $15K for is a nice CTS-V. It is just a "special" car.

[12,000 RPM]

My Z was a SWB G and it ran great. I would recommend that. Low key non turbo E90s are not bad either but still kind of crap shoots. E46s are crap shoots and 335is are bigger ones. IS250 CTS-V is OK if you have a rattling Rubbermaid fetish

[Eye of the Tiger]

But which one will dog like more?

[GoCougs]

G sedan M/T seems a much better car for you than 350Z - same performance, more practical, far higher refinement.

Love me some pooprod V8 but I'd choose (and did choose) the G over the CTS-V. Better built car overall, plus, at the equivalent price point, a CTS-V will be older/more miles/worse condition.

I so wish I could've opted for a M/T G but I needed AWD. It's a fantastic drive and I think you'll love it - it's much more like a muscle car esp. compared to the ninny lesser models of the 3er or IS .

[68_427]

GTO

[Eye of the Tiger]

GTO

Not likely

[CALL_911]

Didn't you have a GTO at some point, Nick?

[Eye of the Tiger]

Didn't you have a GTO at some point, Nick?

No. The only Ppntiac I had was a Grand LeMans.

[MX793]

But which one will dog like more?

Dog would probably like a wagon.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Dog would probably like a wagon.

So would I, but find me a 2005+ manual RWD wagon <$15K.

[CALL_911]

E91

[Eye of the Tiger]

E91

Autotrader doesn't list a single one within 200 miles.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Aside from being heavy, underpowered, and looking like a Camry, what is wrong with an IS250? The interior looks nice, and I bet it's quiet.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Probably the biggest downside to the lexus is that you will have to overpay for less car. They hold value pretty well.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Probably the biggest downside to the lexus is that you will have to overpay for less car. They hold value pretty well.

Just browsing, they seem to be on par with G35s, and less than 328s.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

well then give one a try(testdrive) and see if you like it.

I'd assume it would be the more luxurious/reliable vehicle in that group. G would be more sporty and the BMW would combine the luxo and sport in a nice unreliable/maintenance heavy package.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I just remembered... RX-8s are sedans. Do the back windows roll down for dogs?

[Eye of the Tiger]

well then give one a try(testdrive) and see if you like it.

I'd assume it would be the more luxurious/reliable vehicle in that group. G would be more sporty and the BMW would combine the luxo and sport in a nice unreliable/maintenance heavy package.

I might like it, as long as Toyota didn't inject too much boring appliance DNA into it.
But G35 is on top so far.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Also, just so you know, 15K is evo money. It would be what I'd be looking at.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Also, just so you know, 15K is evo money. It would be what I'd be looking at.

All EVOs under $15K are over 400 miles away, or older than 2005.

The WRX, however, is more plentiful, and available in waggin.
The Impreza interior sucks, however. Accent is better quality. However, the WRX might be more to my liking, overall. However.

[Eye of the Tiger]

My other <$15K option is a new Mitsubishi Mirage!

[FlatBlackCaddy]

New base Mazda 3? or a well optioned 2?

[Eye of the Tiger]

New base Mazda 3? or a well optioned 2?

Fuck that, it was a bad joke. I have no use for FWD here.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

WRX wagon would be cool

[12,000 RPM]

All EVOs under $15K are over 400 miles away, or older than 2005.

The WRX, however, is more plentiful, and available in waggin.
The Impreza interior sucks, however. Accent is better quality. However, the WRX might be more to my liking, overall. However.

9-2X bro.

And lol @ an EVO. They are 240SX status (read: old porn star status)