2017 Fiat 124 Spider

[TBR]

If you looked at the two cars without the badges, you would assume the Miata was the Fiat and the 124 was the Mazda. Weird.

[Payman]

I guess I'm alone... I love it. I think it looks much better than the Miata... the design seems more "appropriate" and traditional for this kind of car. Plus, it has the engine from the 500 Abarth.

[AutobahnSHO]

They stole the Dodge Dart plastic grille

[2o6]

This car screams "money is tight at FCA".


The body styling looks cheap and dumb, and probably was rushed to completion. The interior is the same as the Miata, and the body generally looks strange and awkwardly executed. Like they didn't have time to finish out and refine the concept.



I feel like whatever stage the Alfa version was at looks sixteen times better than tbhs

[Raza]

I like the Fiat. I do get a TVR vibe from it. I miss TVR.

But I'm not sure I like it more than the MX-5.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

And the good news is you get to pay more for that.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

This thing is going to be like a saab 9-2x in about 5 years.

Though sold with a higher sticker, it will languish on CL's ad's for months with such pleas as "It's the same as a Miata, only ITALIAN and much cheaper", "Rare Italian Mazda, for thousands less!!!!", "Please buy it, Please buy it, Please buy it"

Or best of all

"Will trade for ND miata plus CASH on my end".



I love Italian cars, and old fiat roadsters. This however is just wrong, and I wish it would never have seen the light of day. It simultaneously cheapens both the Miata brand and Fiat's heritage.

[Eye of the Tiger]

This thing is going to be like a saab 9-2x in about 5 years.

Though sold with a higher sticker, it will languish on CL's ad's for months with such pleas as "It's the same as a Miata, only ITALIAN and much cheaper", "Rare Italian Mazda, for thousands less!!!!", "Please buy it, Please buy it, Please buy it"

Or best of all

"Will trade for ND miata plus CASH on my end".



I love Italian cars, and old fiat roadsters. This however is just wrong, and I wish it would never have seen the light of day. It simultaneously cheapens both the Miata brand and Fiat's heritage.

I'll take two!

[Madman]

The little crease that kicks up above the door handle is reminiscent of the original 124 Spider, as are the bumps in the hood/bonnet.  I an disappointed with the cabin, however, because it is a straight-up carryover from the Mazda with no effort to differentiate it from the donor car.  I can only assume the budget wasn't able to stretch for a more Italianesque interior.

At least Fiat resisted the temptation to stick the face from the 500 onto it, like they've done with everything they've made recently!

[SVT666]

I dig the rear, but the front pales in comparison tot he Miata.

[MX793]

If you looked at the two cars without the badges, you would assume the Miata was the Fiat and the 124 was the Mazda. Weird.

To be fair, I never thought the original 124 looked very Italian.  Looked more British to me.  Like a Sunbeam, MG, or Triumph (TR6 in particular).

[Payman]

Frank Markus likes it.

http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-fiat-124-spider-first-look-review/

[SJ_GTI]

I am no real familiar with Fiats in general or the old 124 in particular, but when you look at the old car and new car side by side you can see what they were going for.

Does it work? Not in my opinion, but I am sure there will be enough folks that like it that Fiat will make some decent coin on the project.

[Cookie Monster]

I dig the rear, but the front pales in comparison tot he Miata.

Huh, I like the front but not the rear. The rear has way too big of an overhang for me.

[BimmerM3]

I guess I'm alone... I love it. I think it looks much better than the Miata... the design seems more "appropriate" and traditional for this kind of car. Plus, it has the engine from the 500 Abarth.

The more I look at it, the more I like it. It has a bit of a Z8 feel to it.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

I am no real familiar with Fiats in general or the old 124 in particular, but when you look at the old car and new car side by side you can see what they were going for.

Does it work? Not in my opinion, but I am sure there will be enough folks that like it that Fiat will make some decent coin on the project.

Actually, I have to wonder if that will be the case.

The miata has soaked up the vast majority of the old school british/italian guys and of course the modern roadster market. Who's left?? Die hard Fiat guys? Is there really any of them left? Plus, why pay more for a mazda with a fiat badge. It isn't even really a fiat, so why would the italian fans care?

This car will sell, briefly, to the very few that are willing to buy it(and look at it). Once that's done this thing will languish and attract HUGE rebates(I'm talking saab style rebates at the end of their run). To tell you the truth, even with 8K on the hood of one of these I'd still pay more(the 8K might make it 1K cheaper than a comparable miata) for the miata. Because in 10 years I'll atleast have something enthusiasts want, instead of a flash in the pan(it's rare because nobody wanted it) heavier uglier fiata.

Fiata, that's mine by the way.

[280Z Turbo]

I like it.

[Cookie Monster]

The more I look at it, the more I like it. It has a bit of a Z8 feel to it.

Those two look nothing alike, other than both being black.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Damn, Z8. Why did that have to get brought up. Off to car listings I go.

[FlatBlackCaddy]

Damn, Z8. Why did that have to get brought up. Off to car listings I go.

Andddddd I'm back.

Jesus H Christ these things are even worse now then when I looked at them years ago. A quarter of a god damn mil for a Z8, you can scrape the bottom of the barrel for 175K. That's nice 430 money, I'll take the Italian.

[Payman]

Andddddd I'm back.

Jesus H Christ these things are even worse now then when I looked at them years ago. A quarter of a god damn mil for a Z8, you can scrape the bottom of the barrel for 175K. That's nice 430 money, I'll take the Italian.

Lol, yeah I was going to mention the insane prices the Z8 is commanding.

[SJ_GTI]

I love those Z8's.

[Payman]

I love those Z8's.

Me too. It seems like they are loved more now than when they were in production. They were never lauded for their performance/handling, but man... what a looker.

[AutobahnSHO]

I saw a guy who had a Z8. Slushbox, he was handicapped.

[2o6]

I feel like Fiat spent all th development money in putting the 1.4t in there.

[Payman]

I want one. Hopefully I can get a Classico with manual and LSD.

I wonder what the colour choices will be.

[Payman]

I feel like Fiat spent all th development money in putting the 1.4t in there.

Yeah, but the FRS/BRZ are IDENTICAL, sharing engine, interior, design... and it gets a pass. The Spider shares the excellent Miata interior, but has its own styling and ENGINE, and you guys dump on it. LOL.

[BimmerM3]

I saw a guy who had a Z8. Slushbox, he was handicapped.

Technically, I believe that would be an Alpina Roadster. (Not trying to call you out, just sharing info  )

Damn, it looks fantastic in that color combination.

[93JC]

I don't know what you guys who are bitching about the looks are going on about: looks damn good to me. I like it.

[MX793]

Technically, I believe that would be an Alpina Roadster. (Not trying to call you out, just sharing info  )

Yes, BMW Z8s were 6MT only.  For 2003, Z8s were made by Alpina and sold through BMW dealers as Alpina models.  These used a smaller and less powerful Alpina-tuned V8 engine and were slushbox only.