MAZDA SkyActiv-R Sportscar... New RX-7?

[68_427]

I feel like it'd be smart of Mazda to join the Toyota/BMW partnership and Mazda can cover the low end by offering a more basic, sporty version of the platform to keep development costs down.

[68_427]

[Cookie Monster]

You guys are just dogpiling and playing stupid. What have I suggested that is so improbable? And you don't venture into politics because you are too scared.

Two people is dogpiling? Sorry you're so sensitive, man.

Oh and also, you seem very certain that DoD would work on a rotary, even after multiple people (not just Mike and me) were telling you it wouldn't work:

DoD could work though. That would enable them to go big. Bring back the 4 rotor.

I still think a lifesaver for rotaries will be more rotors with DoD. One of the big problems with rotaries is all the surface area. OK, so low loads you reduce the surface area by taking some rotors out of play. I feel like the tech is there now.

They can add very simple valves to close off individual rotors.

Have u heard of a butterfly valve?

Have you ever heard of displacement on demand?

Then you show that you don't even know how a rotary works by suggesting they use roller bearings in place of apex seals :

O boy. Things are coming into focus now. I was going to say, OK, just collect the oil, but I'm guessing it goes right out the tailpipe.... hence the high oil consumption and emissions. Maybe they have gone to roller bearings for apex seals? IDK man.

And I guess you don't know how piston engines work either:

I mean they do DoD in piston engines and those need oil all the time too.

Another idea, which is the nuclear option, would be to couple and decouple rotors with clutches and dogteeth. Have 2 or 3 rotors and take them completely on/offline as needed. No pumping losses or lubrication issues and the dogteeth could be arranged so it would only mesh 1 way. Pretty crazy idea but then so is the rotary engine.

But when you're called out for not knowing what you're talking about, you get butthurt and make it about us.

Whatever man, I'm not going to drag this out more than I have. Keep telling yourself you're right.

[Laconian]

Knock it off with the drama.

[Cookie Monster]

Anywho, I wonder how close to production this interior is:



Looks clean, but I can't tell if that's a manual or automatic. Shifter looks like it could be either (it does remind me of the 6MT Volvo S60R/V70R), but there is only one gigantic pedal in sight, which makes me think it's an auto/DCT, but there are no paddles on the steering wheel (no airbag either).

[68_427]

I wouldn't try to read into anything regarding the interior of the concept.  We all know it'll look like the one in the Miata.

[Cookie Monster]

Yeah, there's no HVAC or infotainment system. I am just hoping it doesn't have the same tacked on screen all the other Mazdas are getting.

[CALL_911]

I love that interior

[Soup DeVille]

Either that car is huge, or that roofline will keep anybody over about five feet tall from fitting into it.

Sexy, yes; but in that color what wouldn't be?

[68_427]

[Soup DeVille]

Yep, five footers.

[MX793]

It doesn't have to have DoD. However I can't imagine oil consumption on the level of a 2 stroke passing any modern emissions standards.

Emissions standards  for hydrocarbons and NOx are set in ppm.  DoD will have limited effect.  It will reduce total output, but not the proportion.  DoD is done more for fuel mileage than as an emissions control.

[MX793]

Yep, five footers.

Maybe the seating position is very reclined like in a dragster.  That would explain some of the proportions.

[12,000 RPM]

Two people is dogpiling? Sorry you're so sensitive, man.

Oh and also, you seem very certain that DoD would work on a rotary, even after multiple people (not just Mike and me) were telling you it wouldn't work:

Then you show that you don't even know how a rotary works by suggesting they use roller bearings in place of apex seals :

And I guess you don't know how piston engines work either:

But when you're called out for not knowing what you're talking about, you get butthurt and make it about us.

Whatever man, I'm not going to drag this out more than I have. Keep telling yourself you're right.

Only other person who disagreed was MX973 and he did all you guys homework for you. Neither of you know what you are talking about either. But w/e, back to the rotary pipe dream.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Only other person who disagreed was MX973 and he did all you guys homework for you. Neither of you know what you are talking about either. But w/e, back to the rotary pipe dream.

I think Mazda and all the aftermarket know what they are dong with apex seals.

They put these things in aircraft because rotary engines are actualltly pretty damn efficient and reliable in a high duty cycle application. Apex seals are the only internal part of the engine that one needs to worry about.

Look how much these stupid little strips of metal cost.

http://www.rotaryaviation.com/store/p2/RA_2mm_Classic_Apex_Seals.html

Yeah, it's a shame thet didn't use roller bearings, which would definitely neccessitate massive oil consumption, even if they were spring loaded to compensate for wear. There are good damn reasins why apex seals and piston rings are what they are.

[SJ_GTI]

I am not a fan of the looks. It is too low to the ground (or the wheels or too big...or both). I think this is one case where the car might actually look better when it gets to production (assuming it gets a more reasonable height and more reasonable wheels).

[Cookie Monster]

I think Mazda and all the aftermarket know what they are dong with apex seals.

They put these things in aircraft because rotary engines are actualltly pretty damn efficient and reliable in a high duty cycle application. Apex seals are the only internal part of the engine that one needs to worry about.

Look how much these stupid little strips of metal cost.

http://www.rotaryaviation.com/store/p2/RA_2mm_Classic_Apex_Seals.html

Yeah, it's a shame thet didn't use roller bearings, which would definitely neccessitate massive oil consumption, even if they were spring loaded to compensate for wear. There are good damn reasins why apex seals and piston rings are what they are.

I don't even see how you'd get any compression at all using roller bearings but apparently I don't know what I'm talking about with rotaries.

[Cookie Monster]

I am not a fan of the looks. It is too low to the ground (or the wheels or too big...or both). I think this is one case where the car might actually look better when it gets to production (assuming it gets a more reasonable height and more reasonable wheels).

This is what I'm hoping as well. I really like most of the details but some things just seem too concept car-like and I'm thinking it'll be toned down for production and look great.

[Galaxy]

Anywho, I wonder how close to production this interior is:

It may be relatively close to production (apart from things like no air vents, no airbag etc.) if you look at how reduced the interior on the Mazda 2 is.

[Cookie Monster]

It may be relatively close to production (apart from things like no air vents, no airbag etc.) if you look at how reduced the interior on the Mazda 2 is.

I hope so. I just really hope they don't put that damn screen on there. I love the 2's interior otherwise.

[Payman]

I hope so. I just really hope they don't put that damn screen on there. I love the 2's interior otherwise.

Eh, I don't mind the screen... it allows for the less bulky dash design. Still, not everyone likes it so it should be optional.

[12,000 RPM]

Someone at my job has a base 3.... still has a screen, but it's comically small.

[Soup DeVille]

Rearview cameras are now required equipment.

So, yes; it gets a screen. Somewhere.

[2o6]

Someone at my job has a base 3.... still has a screen, but it's comically small.

The 3's all get the same screen. Only the 2014 base cars have the clock radio on the dash

[Cookie Monster]

Rearview cameras are now required equipment.

So, yes; it gets a screen. Somewhere.

Yeah, but they could do a better job of integrating it into the dash.

[2o6]

Yeah, but they could do a better job of integrating it into the dash.

I like the uninegrated screen 

[BimmerM3]

Yeah, but they could do a better job of integrating it into the dash.

I agree, and it seems like a trend these days. 3ers and CLAs are like this too. It looks cheap to me... like they designed the whole interior before they got the requirement that it had to have a screen, so they just kinda bolted one on.

[Payman]

I like the uninegrated screen 

Me too Kev, for the reason I stated above.

[68_427]

Mazda stated the rotary is coming without electrification first to showcase their expertise in the field

[MrH]

Mazda stated the rotary is coming without electrification first to showcase their expertise in the field

What's your source?!