Honda S2000

[CaminoRacer]

What about unrolling the fenders?

Why? It's completely unnoticeable.

[Soup DeVille]

Replacing coilovers with stock suspension is a 2hr job for TIC if he ever wants to sell it.

Replacing the fenders and undoing he damage to the quarter panels is not.

[2o6]

Fuckin why



Also, I thought you still needed to do a clutch?

[12,000 RPM]

Why are you guys so anti-mods... well chosen mods always improve cars

[SJ_GTI]

Why are you guys so anti-mods... well chosen mods always improve cars

I kind of agree. It doesn't sound like he is doing thing strange or tacky. If I had the aptitude (on the sound system) I would probably do the same type of stuff.

[FoMoJo]

Why are you guys so anti-mods... well chosen mods always improve cars

Not anti-mod, but it depends on the car.  The S2000 is a true classic; and almost perfect as is.

[Payman]

Why are you guys so anti-mods... well chosen mods always improve cars

Always?

[Xer0]

If you're planning on getting rid of it in a few years, I wouldn't bother modding the car.  A car like the S2000 will always be worth more on the used market if its as close to stock as possible, and if the intent is to pitch it in the near future, throwing money at it now seems like a waste. 

[12,000 RPM]

Always?

Yes, read the "well chosen" immediately before that

MrH worked for a top suspension company; I doubt he is going to pick some $300 Ebay trash.

If you're planning on getting rid of it in a few years, I wouldn't bother modding the car.  A car like the S2000 will always be worth more on the used market if its as close to stock as possible, and if the intent is to pitch it in the near future, throwing money at it now seems like a waste. 

I dont follow

He's keeping the car for a few years and will be driving it that whole time

Mods hes choosing will make it more enjoyable to drive over that time and can be removed when it's time to sell

So why can't he put the mods on, drive the car, take the mods off and sell it as stock?

[Xer0]

I dont follow

He's keeping the car for a few years and will be driving it that whole time

Mods hes choosing will make it more enjoyable to drive over that time and can be removed when it's time to sell

So why can't he put the mods on, drive the car, take the mods off and sell it as stock?

What don't you follow about if you don't plan to keep something long term, don't put money into it?  Or a car like the S2000 is worth more the closer to stock it is?  It sounds like you're desperately trying to justify your past mod choices with MrH here.  This is my advice to him, not sure why are you are taking it so personally.

Also, a car like the S2000 doesn't just revert back to "stock".  People buying these cars know what to look for and know exactly what the most common mods will do to it and what to watch out for with a car reverted back to stock.  This isn't your average Civic that no one will care about.

[Soup DeVille]

The rolled fenders would be a dead giveaway there, but the suspension- as long as the rears don't require remote reservoirs (which means holes in the trunk pan), won't be hard to put back at all.

[MrH]

I walk away from this place for one meeting and this thread gets a picture of "biggest bag of rice"

I'm not pulling the fenders or anything wild.  Just pending over the underside of the edge.  Real basic stuff that you can't even tell unless you run your hand on the inside of the fender.  This isn't some crazy valuable classic guys.  It's just a car.

It'll look something like this

[Xer0]

When you stance it then this thread will go full rice.  For now, its just friendly advice 

[MrH]

I'm just installing the coilovers I've had in the garage forever, doing some basic maintenance it needs, and getting new wheels and tires.  Right rear stock shock is toast.  They're Bilstein PSS9s.  Ride height adjustable, static damping.

None of this is extreme in the slightest and doesn't affect the value really. The car is worth $15k probably.  This isn't a unicorn

[Soup DeVille]

It will be.

[MrH]

It will be.

Wanna buy mine?  $20k and it's yours

[Soup DeVille]

Wanna buy mine?  $20k and it's yours

You just told me it was maybe worth $15k.

[12,000 RPM]

What don't you follow about if you don't plan to keep something long term, don't put money into it?  Or a car like the S2000 is worth more the closer to stock it is?  It sounds like you're desperately trying to justify your past mod choices with MrH here.  This is my advice to him, not sure why are you are taking it so personally.

Also, a car like the S2000 doesn't just revert back to "stock".  People buying these cars know what to look for and know exactly what the most common mods will do to it and what to watch out for with a car reverted back to stock.  This isn't your average Civic that no one will care about.

For MrH, a couple of years is long term. I dont think hes planning to keep this to hand down to his kids

The only mod that will indicate any foul play are the fenders, which I doubt most buyers would even look for. How will someone know if he changed the shocks? Radio Plus you act like this is a 250 GTO or something. It's a highish mileage S2000. He will be lucky to sell it for what he paid without touching it.

Since we are offering free psychoanalyses based on posts I think people are either scared, uninformed (how do coilovers permanently alter a car ) or maybe a little jealous? But we don't have to play that game. Any time anyone talks about mods beyond wheels/tires it's the same fearmongering, shit's corny.

[MrH]

You just told me it was maybe worth $15k.

That's what the market says.  You claim it's a future unicorn.  Invest now!

[Xer0]

For MrH, a couple of years is long term. I dont think hes planning to keep this to hand down to his kids

The only mod that will indicate any foul play are the fenders, which I doubt most buyers would even look for. How will someone know if he changed the shocks? Radio Plus you act like this is a 250 GTO or something. It's a highish mileage S2000. He will be lucky to sell it for what he paid without touching it.

Since we are offering free psychoanalyses based on posts I think people are either scared, uninformed (how do coilovers permanently alter a car ) or maybe a little jealous? But we don't have to play that game. Any time anyone talks about mods beyond wheels/tires it's the same fearmongering, shit's corny.

I don't even know what you're arguing about right now, and why you are assuming what H is or isn't doing and for how long he may or may not do it for.  Again, I'm sorry that you feel threatened that people aren't uniformly pro mod like you, but that's an issue that you need to sort out yourself.  The main point is simple; its a car you don't plan on keeping so, imo, don't bother modding it.  The fact that the car is most likely a future classic just adds to that.  It's not as if its a terrible drive stock.

Its a message board, people give opinions, and sometimes you will disagree with them.  It happens.

[SJ_GTI]

That's what the market says.  You claim it's a future unicorn.  Invest now!

And if you take a loan out of your 401(k) you can double your gains!

[Payman]

Bone stock Supra (last gen) prices are in the stratosphere, and IMHO unmolested S2000s are the next big thing. Buyers will know to feel under the wheel wells for evidence of modding. It's Mike's car, and Mike can do as he pleases. It's just opinions from fellow enthusiasts, and nothing to get uptight about.

[68_427]

The car already had modifications like holes cut in the interior for more speakers iirc. 

[MexicoCityM3]

I think an S2000 is a solid investment depreciation-wise. You won't lose money on the car from this point forward.

[CaminoRacer]

The car already had modifications like holes cut in the interior for more speakers iirc. 

Oh wow POS.

Mike I'll give you $45 for it. That's better than you're gonna get anywhere else. And you don't even have to go through all the coilover installation effort.

[Rich]

$30

[MexicoCityM3]

$30

Pesos.

[MrH]

The car is junk. I replaced the two blown paper speakers with 4 working ones. Not original though. Tanked the value.

[Xer0]

You'll have to pay someone to take it off your hands now.

[giant_mtb]

The car is junk. I replaced the two blown paper speakers with 4 working ones. Not original though. Tanked the value.

PAPER CONES ARE THE ANALOG OF THE SPEAKER WORLD HOW DARE YOU.