Matt Farah on 718 Boxster

[Raza]

What year?  I drove an old 190D once and half the time I was just guessing and hoping I was in the right gear.  First and up for reverse also confused the shit out of me for like 10 whole minutes.


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Early 2000s. SLK.

Actually, the Tiburon I drove sounds like that 190D.

[12,000 RPM]

Lol. Look, you've stated it before. I apparently have control issues. So why would you think that I'd rather give up control than deal with a vague shifter and retain control?

A performance car grade flappy paddle box gives you all the control of a manual box, so there's something else at play. I'm guessing the need to portray the image of a discerning purist at all times.

[MX793]

A performance car grade flappy paddle box gives you all the control of a manual box, so there's something else at play. I'm guessing the need to portray the image of a discerning purist at all times.

Taking away the clutch pedal removes some of the driver's control.  Specifically, it greatly reduces the driver's control of how to launch the car from a stop.  Not as big of a deal on a track when you aren't taking off from a stop with any meaningful frequency, but certainly in day to day driving.

[Cookie Monster]

A performance car grade flappy paddle box gives you all the control of a manual box, so there's something else at play.

No it doesn't.

Not being able to heel-toe itself is a deal breaker.

[GoCougs]

I considered that, but his mouth is moving very closely in sync to the audio (definitely not a .1+ second delay as I observed between when he hit the paddle and the engine audibly shifted).

There are two cameras though.

[MX793]

There are two cameras though.

I was watching a single camera shot that showed both his mouth moving and his hands on the wheel.  Right around the 2 minute mark up to around 2:49 he makes a couple of shifts and there's definite delay between paddle pull and when you hear the shift.

[12,000 RPM]

No it doesn't.

Not being able to heel-toe itself is a deal breaker.

????

Just brake and hit the downshift paddle. Unless you are talking about the enjoyment of it

[Raza]

A performance car grade flappy paddle box gives you all the control of a manual box, so there's something else at play. I'm guessing the need to portray the image of a discerning purist at all times.

Your premise is hilariously faulty. A performance car flappy paddle box DOES NOT give you all the control of a manual gearbox. Not at all. There's still a computer between you and the decision, and it decides whether your request will be denied or granted. And the fact that you're stuck shifting sequentially is by default not the same level of control as a true manual. And there's no way to manipulate the clutch, which is part of the control.

Nothing gives you all the control of a manual except a manual. Period.

[Rupert]

How bad are we talking. What cars

1989 Escort. Like stirring a pot of nails and oil, no idea what gear it was in most of the time.

But I agree with you.