Sporty G37 thread

[Rich]

Michelin Pilot Sports all the way

[MX793]

Michelin Pilot Sports all the way

Or the new Continental ExtremeContact Sports, which reviews indicate are a match to the MPSS but significantly less money.

[SJ_GTI]

Or the new Continental ExtremeContact Sports, which reviews indicate are a match to the MPSS but significantly less money.

Interesting. I was considering getting the Pilot Sports after my the Continentals on my Golf are worn out. I have never been fond of continental tires I have had in the past (GTI had them). If Michelins were too expensive I was going to go with Pirelli P-Zeroes.

[MX793]

Interesting. I was considering getting the Pilot Sports after my the Continentals on my Golf are worn out. I have never been fond of continental tires I have had in the past (GTI had them). If Michelins were too expensive I was going to go with Pirelli P-Zeroes.

PZeros aren't worth the money.  They are rated just about the worst in their segment in every comparison I've ever seen.  Tire Rack's comparo put them no better than mid pack in any category and, while cheaper than PSS, they are still among the more expensive options.  Tread life is also near the bottom of the segment.

The PS4 is going to be replacing the PSS this year.  Might be able to get a deal on the PSS.  The ExtremeContact Sport has been getting good early reviews, but I haven't seen a head to head with the PSS.  The tread pattern looks like a near copy of the PSS, though.

[12,000 RPM]

I need all seasons

I like the PR4s on my bike for whatever that's worth

[SJ_GTI]

PZeros aren't worth the money.  They are rated just about the worst in their segment in every comparison I've ever seen.  Tire Rack's comparo put them no better than mid pack in any category and, while cheaper than PSS, they are still among the more expensive options.  Tread life is also near the bottom of the segment.

The PS4 is going to be replacing the PSS this year.  Might be able to get a deal on the PSS.  The ExtremeContact Sport has been getting good early reviews, but I haven't seen a head to head with the PSS.  The tread pattern looks like a near copy of the PSS, though.

I have always liked the PZeroes. Granted I am not tracking them, just looking for a sufficiently sticky tire that also rides reasonably well. I'll have to check which tires I have when I get home. My current summer tires are Continental but I don't think they are the ones you mentioned.

[SJ_GTI]

I need all seasons

I like the PR4s on my bike for whatever that's worth

Just out of curiosity, why the need for all seasons...? I would assume your weather is more mild than mine. I would think worst case you would use summers ~March-November and then run all seasons Dec-Feb.

FWIW I am planning to put my summer wheels/tires on this weekend.

[MX793]

I have always liked the PZeroes. Granted I am not tracking them, just looking for a sufficiently sticky tire that also rides reasonably well. I'll have to check which tires I have when I get home. My current summer tires are Continental but I don't think they are the ones you mentioned.

The EC Sports just came out late last year.  You probably have the predecessor (DW, I think), which reviews say are average.  They have kind of a blocky tread, so I expect the are a little squirmy feeling with softer response than a PSS or PZero.  They are supposed to be really good in the rain, though.

Taken in a vacuum, the PZero isn't a bad tire.  I was generally satisfied with the grip, though I thought wet grip was a little lacking.  Taking into consideration the fairly high price and poor treadwear, I have no intention of replacing mine with another set.  If they were cheaper or lasted longer, maybe, but they are second to the Michelins in price, have nearly the worst treadwear in the segment, and are merely average in grip.

[12,000 RPM]

Just out of curiosity, why the need for all seasons...? I would assume your weather is more mild than mine. I would think worst case you would use summers ~March-November and then run all seasons Dec-Feb.

FWIW I am planning to put my summer wheels/tires on this weekend.

I only wanna run 1 set of wheels... I'd either sell the current ones for 19s or keep the current ones with spacers

Plus I dont wanna give up space in my house/garage for a set of street tires.

[r0tor]

I don't think I've ever seen a set of koni yellows go more to a few years before they leak

[SJ_GTI]

The EC Sports just came out late last year.  You probably have the predecessor (DW, I think), which reviews say are average.  They have kind of a blocky tread, so I expect the are a little squirmy feeling with softer response than a PSS or PZero.  They are supposed to be really good in the rain, though.

I checked, they are Contisportcontacts, same as what I had on my GTI IIRC. I'll have to check out the Extremecontact Sports. If they are generally considered very good while being cheaper than PSS I wouldn't mind saving some money.

[MX793]

I checked, they are Contisportcontacts, same as what I had on my GTI IIRC. I'll have to check out the Extremecontact Sports. If they are generally considered very good while being cheaper than PSS I wouldn't mind saving some money.

Oh, yeah, the Contisportcontacts are rated pretty poorly.  I think TireRack has them down about on par with, or slightly worse than, the P Zero.  The ExtremeContact DWs have been around a while and have pretty favorable reviews.  Generally fell a little short of the PSS save in wet performance and hydroplane resistance.  I did see a review comparing the new ExtremeContact Sport with the old ExtremeContact DW and they said that the new Sport tire is better with sharper responses.  Also holds up better to hard driving on a track, which would quickly chew up a DW's blocky outside shoulder tread.

http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/4456/TESTED-Continental-Tire-ExtremeContact-Sport.aspx

At least for my sizes, I think they're about $40 a tire less than the PSS (so that's ~20%).

[12,000 RPM]

I don't think I've ever seen a set of koni yellows go more to a few years before they leak

A few years would be better than the few months my coilovers gave me. Plus I think Koni has a lifetime warranty. You've been hating this whole thread... You triggered mate?

[12,000 RPM]

I have the DWS06s on my Civic. Highly recommend them. The car handles like it's on rails, gives great feedback and is pretty good in the snow and rain. SJ doesn't track his cars so they should be fine. Honestly would probably make a set of summer wheels redundant

[Raza]

Sporty:  I love having a quiet, comfortable car to drive to work in.
Sporty, 10 seconds later: I want to lower it.
Sporty in a week: Coilovers.
Sporty in 6 months: This car is too harsh. 
Sporty in a year: Guys, I bought another Accord.

[Raza]

Or the new Continental ExtremeContact Sports, which reviews indicate are a match to the MPSS but significantly less money.

Pilot Sports are so overpriced, that's not hard to believe. 

[Laconian]

Sporty:  I love having a quiet, comfortable car to drive to work in.
Sporty, 10 seconds later: I want to lower it.
Sporty in a week: Coilovers.
Sporty in 6 months: This car is too harsh. 
Sporty in a year: Guys, I bought another Accord.

[12,000 RPM]

Sporty:  I love having a quiet, comfortable car to drive to work in.
Sporty, 10 seconds later: I want to lower it.
Sporty in a week: Coilovers.
Sporty in 6 months: This car is too harsh. 
Sporty in a year: Guys, I bought another Accord.

Harshness wasn't the problem with the Civic.... asthmatic performance in the summer and a near complete lack of refinement were. Coilovers don't increase wind noise or the like. My Maxima on coils was dead quiet even on shitty NYC streets.

Plus I'm getting springs and shocks, not coilovers

[CaminoRacer]

I have the DWS06s on my Civic. Highly recommend them. The car handles like it's on rails, gives great feedback and is pretty good in the snow and rain. SJ doesn't track his cars so they should be fine. Honestly would probably make a set of summer wheels redundant

I loved my DWS/DWS06s until I got the Sport Comp 2 all seasons. The stiffer sidewall improved responsiveness without killing ride quality. The only downside is potentially (slightly) worse snow performance, but I haven't had any problems in bad weather.

[SVT_Power]

First commute. Jesus Christ. If this thing isn't as fast as the bike it's damn close.

wat

[r0tor]

Every Continental tire I have ever seen or owner has a huge stack of weights on the wheels... I think their quality is fairly suspect

[r0tor]

Plus I'm getting springs and shocks, not coilovers

[r0tor]

A few years would be better than the few months my coilovers gave me. Plus I think Koni has a lifetime warranty. You've been hating this whole thread... You triggered mate?

Thought I was providing useful info.... I can easily stop

[68_427]

Every Continental tire I have ever seen or owner has a huge stack of weights on the wheels... I think their quality is fairly suspect

This is true in my experience as well.  Was very impressed by my Bridgestones.  Not one weight was needed on the entire car.

[12,000 RPM]

Every Continental tire I have ever seen or owner has a huge stack of weights on the wheels... I think their quality is fairly suspect

Civic wheels are balanced up to 110 mph... Your input is no longer required

[r0tor]

This is true in my experience as well.  Was very impressed by my Bridgestones.  Not one weight was needed on the entire car.

Same when I had Bridgestones and also my current Michelins on my car and Jeep.

There was a huge stack on my Mazda when I had the DW's, huge weight on the wife's OEM contis on the Focus, and  similar situation with 2 others I know of that had DWS's.

[r0tor]

Civic wheels are balanced up to 110 mph... Your input is no longer required

Ok, I'll just add useless facts from now on like my Jeep gets better gas mileage then your car

[12,000 RPM]

Ok, I'll just add useless facts from now on like my Jeep gets better gas mileage then your car

What is your problem man.

[r0tor]

What is your problem man.

Oh, it gets better gas mileage while drinking 87 octane... Could probably cut your fuel bill by 25% by switching to a 4x4'ing SUV

[12,000 RPM]

Oh, it gets better gas mileage while drinking 87 octane... Could probably cut your fuel bill by 25% by switching to a 4x4'ing SUV

If I wanted good gas mileage the last thing I would have bought is a VQ equipped car

Go home, you're drunk, and it's pathetic.