WTF is being a car enthusiast, after all?

[Cookie Monster]

Bruised a few knuckles did you?

Mainly my ego. Also a lot of regret buying said skid plate.

I'd post about the shenanigans but it makes me depressed to even think about.

[AutobahnSHO]

Nobody said anything about weekly track days. Dont do that.

And Raza even while I was in motorcycle mode I was still playing Forza almost daily and following the industry. Modern cars are a bit boring.... iterative and strangled by shareholders and regulators. Outside of Tesla, which has its own problems, what is there to be excited about? Even shit like the Ford GT is just the same old same old... "some engineers working in secret to build a race car for the street" Wow, just what we needed. Where are the new ideas? So on the car side no I'm not very excited, there's no reason to be. But driving is still driving, thank God.

Automotive engineering has hit a pinnacle. The level of advancement has gotten so high that radical new ideas aren't going to work like they did in the olden days. The knowledge and 'what works' level has gotten so high that most SUVs look basically the same, most sedans look basically the same, most engines are roughly the same, because it's what works. There's no undiscovered magic, (minus maybe Mazda's new engine, if it pans out).

[12,000 RPM]

Don't worry. Sporty has done one track day in his life. lol

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king

[giant_mtb]

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king

So relevant.

[cawimmer430]

I'm probably a 3.

My enthusiasm for cars revolves mainly around their design, their history and impact and practicality. How they drive or perform is not really that important to me. The car that appeals to me needs to look good, be practical, comfortable, have acceptable performance and fuel economy and be blessed with decent handling.

So I like practical cars, and on the other hand I love classic cars. I attend classic car shows and my photography business mainly revolves around vintage automobiles. That's where my passion lies. Classic cars mean freedom to me. They come from an era when there was total freedom for designers and engineers - unlike today where the government tells car companies how to design cars; literally.

Call me a car design, car heritage and car practicality enthusiast, not a driving enthusiast.

[MexicoCityM3]

I'm probably a 3.

My enthusiasm for cars revolves mainly around their design, their history and impact and practicality. How they drive or perform is not really that important to me. The car that appeals to me needs to look good, be practical, comfortable, have acceptable performance and fuel economy and be blessed with decent handling.

So I like practical cars, and on the other hand I love classic cars. I attend classic car shows and my photography business mainly revolves around vintage automobiles. That's where my passion lies. Classic cars mean freedom to me. They come from an era when there was total freedom for designers and engineers - unlike today where the government tells car companies how to design cars; literally.

Call me a car design, car heritage and car practicality enthusiast, not a driving enthusiast.

You are a 10 on car photography enthusiasm. And unfortunately also on 70s american malaise era car enthusiasm.

[FoMoJo]

You are a 10 on car photography enthusiasm. And unfortunately also on 70s american malaise era car enthusiasm.

Agree.  Just the act of identifying and labeling the cars in all the photos suggests something bordering on obsession with certain Euro and classic cars. 

[cawimmer430]

You are a 10 on car photography enthusiasm. And unfortunately also on 70s american malaise era car enthusiasm.

But liking '70s American cars is part of... car enthusiasm.

[cawimmer430]

Agree.  Just the act of identifying and labeling the cars in all the photos suggests something bordering on obsession with certain Euro and classic cars. 

I appreciate classics a lot, probably more than anyone else in here. A shame that less than a handful of members here have an interest in classic cars. 

[MexicoCityM3]

But liking '70s American cars is part of... car enthusiasm.

A fringe and weird part. But yes it is.

[r0tor]

Man... and people thought this thread was a shitshow when I was p0sting in it   

[12,000 RPM]

Man... and people thought this thread was a shitshow when I was p0sting in it   

Well we are discussing enthusiasm now, as opposed to your cocktail of emotional issues.... so yea, your absence has enabled significant improvement,.

[cawimmer430]

A fringe and weird part. But yes it is.

Man... and people thought this thread was a shitshow when I was p0sting in it   

I'm gonna raise the shitshow bar by posting this '76 Ford LTD Country Squire which I saw at the FFB Oldtimertage 2017. 

[r0tor]

Well we are discussing enthusiasm now, as opposed to your cocktail of emotional issues.... so yea, your absence has enabled significant improvement,.

I think we should expand further if Forza's makes a person a driving enthusiast or a video game enthusiast 

[2o6]

I think I'm at about a 5 or 6.

I like manual transmissions and sharp handling, but I also like good fuel economy.



I started flipping because I realized I liked the thrill of buying and selling versus the actual wrenching. Not to say that I can't wrench on things, but it's not worth my time to fix.

[12,000 RPM]

I think we should expand further if Forza's makes a person a driving enthusiast or a video game enthusiast 

We can go further and qualify RX-8 owners as "lubricant as fuel" enthusiasts and also masochists

[r0tor]

Are you saying 2 stroke engines aren't awesome?

[12,000 RPM]

No, we have VTEC for that.

[r0tor]

I pitty you then

[Cookie Monster]

lol VTEC can't touch a real 2 stroke engine for power delivery.

Modern VTEC is so watered down it's not even fun anymore.

[r0tor]

lol VTEC can't touch a real 2 stroke engine for power delivery.

Modern VTEC is so watered down it's not even fun anymore.

All true enthusiasts know this

[CaminoRacer]

Modern VTEC is so watered down it's not even fun anymore.

What about compared to modern 2 strokes?

[FoMoJo]

What about compared to modern 2 strokes?

Have they managed to clean up 2 strokes?  Haven't really been keeping up.

[Cookie Monster]

What about compared to modern 2 strokes?

I dunno, never ridden any new ones.

Have they managed to clean up 2 strokes?  Haven't really been keeping up.

Honda is supposedly coming out with some new two stroke dirt bikes.

[giant_mtb]

I think I'm at about a 5 or 6.

I like manual transmissions and sharp handling, but I also like good fuel economy.



I started flipping because I realized I liked the thrill of buying and selling versus the actual wrenching. Not to say that I can't wrench on things, but it's not worth my time to fix.

I think it would be fun to start a small used car business with like two other people. One main front man and general purchaser/seller, a mechanic, and a detailer. 

[Cookie Monster]

I think it would be fun to start a small used car business with like two other people. One main front man and general purchaser/seller, a mechanic, and a detailer. 

What about the shady finance guy offering 29% APR for 80 months?

[shp4man]

I think it would be fun to start a small used car business with like two other people. One main front man and general purchaser/seller, a mechanic, and a detailer. 

I don't think you have what it takes to sell used up cars. And that's a compliment. 

[MrH]

What about the shady finance guy offering 29% APR for 80 months?

That's your job

The Kevin + Chris + Rags + Nick (wherever he is) dealership could be a sitcom.

[CaminoRacer]

I dunno, never ridden any new ones.

Honda is supposedly coming out with some new two stroke dirt bikes.

Do they even make new ones? Not counting this supposed new Honda.

[93JC]

If 5/10 is 'average' interest then I'm maybe a...6-7?

If 1/10 is 'average' (0/10 being "no interest") then I'm maybe a 3?

I am an unthusiast, I just don't care much anymore.