Premium gas or mid range

Started by BENZ BOY15, February 11, 2018, 12:31:19 AM

BENZ BOY15

Probably a used Outback but even those are still in the 20k range, forget new ones. Not a big fan of the CRV.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on February 11, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Gas for various reasons is always a lot more expensive in California, so not sure I'd say relatively cheap. You live in the south afterall. :lol:

I'll switch to regular and I'll see how it goes. Maybe down the road if something catastrophic happens I'll look into something new but like I said, I like owing close to nothing on it. The suspension fix was the one of the biggest fixes that these particular models need but I did that over a year ago and it's been fine since. A lot of this list (half way down the page) has been done actually: https://repairpal.com/estimator/lexus/gx470/alternator-replacement-cost with the notable exception of the front axle/half shaft replacement.

If I were to look at something else, I'd take a close look at a Subaru and I did when I bough this one. But a Crosstrek was almost double the price as my car and I like mine better anyway.

When was the timing belt done?
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Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 11, 2018, 10:21:53 PM
When was the timing belt done?

Not within the past year but I'm 90% sure it's been done. I have all the receipts on my computer, I'd have to look it over but I'll ask the mechanic who's done all the work tomorrow.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on February 11, 2018, 01:12:27 AM
Seems to be a disagreement with some though that because it's a 2005, which is the year it got a new engine..."the engine with VVT-i does prefer premium". The next guy says: "I have a 05 GX which has the same engine as the 06. The manual saids:

Select Octane Rating 87 (Research Octane Number 91) or
higher. For improved vehicle performance, the use of
premium unleaded gasoline with an Octane Rating of 91
(Research Octane Number 96) or higher is recommended."

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-1st-gen-2004-2009/186472-octane-level-used-in-gx470.html

When I bought the car, Clay was always using premium when he drove it out here (I'm fairly certain) and just kept doing it that way.

Okay, missed something here.

This guy is repeating Research Octane numbers; which run higher than what the octane is listed as at the pump.

In the US, octane at the pump is labeled according to the average of the Research and the Motor Tested Octane number. One runs high and is based on laboratory vapor pressure tests; the other runs low and is based on actually burning the fuel in a test engine.
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on February 11, 2018, 10:23:22 PM
Not within the past year but I'm 90% sure it's been done. I have all the receipts on my computer, I'd have to look it over but I'll ask the mechanic who's done all the work tomorrow.

I think think think its a 150,000 mile recommended replacement. It's one of the more expensive things that need to be done; if you're thinking of keeping the truck (can't blame you), find out and weigh that cost in the whole thing.
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BENZ BOY15

Quote from: Soup DeVille on February 11, 2018, 10:28:19 PM
I think think think its a 150,000 mile recommended replacement. It's one of the more expensive things that need to be done; if you're thinking of keeping the truck (can't blame you), find out and weigh that cost in the whole thing.

I think it was done because IIRC, he said it'd be good to get done at the same time as the water pump and I went for both as it'd be extra labor cost if I did it another time.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on February 11, 2018, 10:54:07 PM
I think it was done because IIRC, he said it'd be good to get done at the same time as the water pump and I went for both as it'd be extra labor cost if I did it another time.

Then you're good to go.
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on February 11, 2018, 09:54:02 PM
Gas for various reasons is always a lot more expensive in California, so not sure I'd say relatively cheap. You live in the south afterall. :lol:
That's why I'm saying to get out while you can. There may still be interest in the GX with gas at $3.50 or whatever it is over there. If gas goes up to like $5/gal you'll be stuck. Something like a hybrid RX should hopefully still get you around with way less fuel.
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AutobahnSHO

Cost of fuel is tiny compared to getting another car.

Crosstreks are nice but Joe, if you drive clients around your current vehicle is probably better (size/space wise, oh and image).
Will

2o6

GX'es have a lot of value tho. It would prolly be a direct trade almost.

shp4man

Knock sensors tell the PCM to change the timing curve almost instantly. The. manufacturer wants to make sure the vehicle makes it through the warranty period without repair, even if Mr. Cheapo owner puts shit gas in it.






12,000 RPM

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 12, 2018, 07:05:48 AM
Cost of fuel is tiny compared to getting another car.
Depends on the car. A good low mileage 05 GX can fetch $15-17K retail. RX400hs cost less it seems. It could be a straight trade.
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 12, 2018, 07:45:16 AM
Depends on the car. A good low mileage 05 GX can fetch $15-17K retail. RX400hs cost less it seems. It could be a straight trade.

Just the purchase taxes in Commiefornia are probably a year's worth of gas savings. :huh:
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12,000 RPM

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on February 12, 2018, 08:03:23 AM
Just the purchase taxes in Commiefornia are probably a year's worth of gas savings. :huh:
If my math serves me correctly sales tax would be about $1200-1500 on the RX (7.5% in Cali- pretty normal)

1 year of fuel savings would be 16,700 * $3.89 * (1/15 MPG - 1/30 MPG) = $2165/yr

Thats at current gas prices as well, not unlikely to think they will go up :huh: Plus I think the RXh can take regular which will enhance savings that much more

It's a no brainer
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Morris Minor

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on February 12, 2018, 07:45:16 AM
Depends on the car. A good low mileage 05 GX can fetch $15-17K retail. RX400hs cost less it seems. It could be a straight trade.
RX400h is an excellent candidate. It's comfortable & conveys to customers the the agent has a certain level of success without being too over the top. It exudes environmental treehugging goodness, which will go down well in that market.
And it doesn't use much gas.

It's basically a Highlander Hybrid isn't it? (I lose track.)
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12,000 RPM

I think the Highlander has a 4 banger vs the V6 in the RX.... Highlander also has a 3rd row

$2200/year is nothing to sniff at. I will take 12% as my consultant fee
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MX793

Highlander Hybrid uses the V6 as well.
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2o6

Yeah the RXh and Highlander Hybrid are the same mechanically.

Raza

What's the gas mileage of the CR-V?
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Lebowski

CRV highway is over 30. The hybrid CUVs don't seem to get that great of mileage for hybrids.

Laconian

Quote from: Lebowski on February 12, 2018, 10:34:34 AM
CRV highway is over 30. The hybrid CUVs don't seem to get that great of mileage for hybrids.

I don't think the SUVs use Atkinson cycle engines because they need the torque for moving around more mass.

The Atkinson engines are a big part of why hard core hybrids like the Prius get the numbers that they do.
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MX793

Quote from: Laconian on February 12, 2018, 11:10:11 AM
I don't think the SUVs use Atkinson cycle engines because they need the torque for moving around more mass.

The Atkinson engines are a big part of why hard core hybrids like the Prius get the numbers that they do.

Current generation is an Atkinson cycle V6.  Fuel economy is so-so because it's a 2-ton brick with AWD whereas the Prius is relatively light and very streamlined.
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Laconian

Quote from: MX793 on February 12, 2018, 11:25:51 AM
Current generation is an Atkinson cycle V6.  Fuel economy is so-so because it's a 2-ton brick with AWD whereas the Prius is relatively light and very streamlined.

Huh. I could've sworn...
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veeman

According to kbb, using very good condition and Los Angeles area, the Lexus is worth between 6.5 - 10 thousand depending on whether you trade it in or sell it private party.  I wouldn't trade in a perfectly running nice car which gets crappy gas mileage for a used/new luxury hybrid like a Lexus.  For kicks I put in how much it would cost to get a used 2010 Lexus RX hybrid with 100,000 miles and it's around 16 to 18 thousand. It'll take you 3 to 5 years just to come out even and that's assuming your "new" 8 year old luxury hybrid doesn't require expensive maintenance/repair. 

Cost to drive is a source of anxiety right now especially with housing market not great in the area you are in.  If you're going to switch your well running car I'd keep the overall cost of the switch kinda even, meaning getting a used more fuel efficient car costing around 6.5 - 10 thousand.  Luxury hybrid doesn't work in that range.

Older Subarus don't get great gas mileage.  A 2010 Subaru Forester gets 21/22 average miles per gallon. It's a step up from what you currently have but not sure if the trade off is worth it. 


Lebowski

That makes sense, and what I was thinking as well although I didn't kbb it since afaik Benzy hasn't told us the mileage (has he?). For a 2005 the numbers Sporty threw out of it being worth $15-$17k seemed very aggressive to me.

Assuming the GX is worth <=$10k or so, I agree with you if the car is reliable I would keep it vs trying to swap out to another used car in the same price range which could be a crapshoot reliability wise. Trading to a more expensive car to save on gas usually is not worth it IMO.

veeman

Quote from: Lebowski on February 12, 2018, 01:51:26 PM
That makes sense, and what I was thinking as well although I didn't kbb it since afaik Benzy hasn't told us the mileage (has he?). For a 2005 the numbers Sporty threw out of it being worth $15-$17k seemed very aggressive to me.

Assuming the GX is worth <=$10k or so, I agree with you if the car is reliable I would keep it vs trying to swap out to another used car in the same price range which could be a crapshoot reliability wise. Trading to a more expensive car to save on gas usually is not worth it IMO.

Yeah second post he said 162,000 miles.

2o6

Yeah with 162K, I'd just hold onto it.