The Official C8 Corvette Thread...

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZGCJu2OaAg

[r0tor]

Did Leno really say most cars in this class come with a torque converter and a 3, 4, or 5 speed transsmission

[Raza]

It's still a targa, so structurally, it should be sound as a convertible with little-to-no extra bracing provided they have some space for the top to fold into.

They are doing it:



https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a28442207/2020-chevrolet-corvette-c8-convertible/


That's hot as fuck.  If it had a manual, I'd buy it.  As it stands, the C7 is still more appealing to me.

[Raza]

The GPS front lifter is a piece of technology that is brilliant.  I bet everyone is going to steal the idea immediately (Ferrari, lambo etc).

This will certainly put the pressure on the 911, but people who want a 911 will still get one. 

This car will definitely put a absolute beat down on the more alternative sports cars that are already struggling.  Like the NSX for example.  The NSX is screwed.

Sadly I fear the new supra is kinda screwed too, this c8 is just next level for a bit more money.

It also takes the wind out if the sails of the super pony cars.  Even if the gt500 is amazing, I'd be hard pressed to justify spending more money on it.

Looking at the videos of people that went to the event and filmed the cars up close, you can really appreciate the thought that GM put into these cars.  The cargo capacity is really impressive.  Mid engine cars with a rear cargo area tend to have a very shallow one, but the C8 has a very deep one front and rear.

This is going to sell like hot cakes, and it's going to take sales from a wide range of competitors.

Yeah, the Supra, so long gone, being a JV between Toyota and BMW....just got shown up by GM.  Next level is right.

The trunks remind me of my old Boxster. 

[Raza]

[Payman]

Me too! Now I'm torn between a C7 Z06 and a base C8...........

Brother bought a 2019 C7 Z06 earlier this year. I suggested he wait for the "Zora". Now he's thinking trading. 

[Payman]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28413258/2020-chevrolet-corvette-c8-colors-trims-features/

This is all pretty crazy. GM knocked this over the moon. I'm thinking now that they made every other $50K+ sports car an irrational purchase. Why pay $300k for a Huracan? $180k for an R8 or NSX? Only the Boxster/Cayman and low end 911 still remain viable options.

[Xer0]

I think the Supra is still mostly fine, this thing is still 10/15K more expensive and at this price point that does mater.  But man, this thing is really is making the NSX and R8 obsolete, forcing you to really ask if you want the manual of the 718, and takes all the thunder out of the GT500.  Good job GM, at least on paper this thing sounds like an absolute game changer.

[NomisR]

This thing is kinda the NSX of this generation.  Back in the 90s when all the Supercars are unreliable and super expensive, it's the car that brought everything back to the ground.  The C8 is the one doing it this time at a time when all the supercar prices are moving into the million plus. 

[MX793]

I'm really impressed with what they've put together here. 

That said, having lived with a 400+ hp car for a while now, I'm actually more interested in lighter, less powerful cars.  You can't really open a car like this up on the street.  Even for something like auto-x, it's hugely overkill.  And brakes and 19/20" performance tires cost a fortune, especially if you do take it to the track or auto-x it (a set of 200TW "race" tires for my Mustang is close to $1400, and they last just over a season of auto-x, and "street" tires are about a grand a set).  Something that looks like this, but a few hundred lbs lighter (maybe a couple inches shorter in length), 18" wheels, a real stick shift, and a ~300-ish HP N/A V6 for under $50K would be awesome fun on the street, competent on the track, and still turn heads.

[Laconian]

Agreed, for my own tastes I'd prefer a Vette Elise (well, maybe a Vette M2 - I'd rather have a thick turbo torque curve than a schizo VVT cammer). Huge power is illegal and unsafe in most situations.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

I'm really impressed with what they've put together here. 

That said, having lived with a 400+ hp car for a while now, I'm actually more interested in lighter, less powerful cars.  You can't really open a car like this up on the street.  Even for something like auto-x, it's hugely overkill.  And brakes and 19/20" performance tires cost a fortune, especially if you do take it to the track or auto-x it (a set of 200TW "race" tires for my Mustang is close to $1400, and they last just over a season of auto-x, and "street" tires are about a grand a set).  Something that looks like this, but a few hundred lbs lighter (maybe a couple inches shorter in length), 18" wheels, a real stick shift, and a ~300-ish HP N/A V6 for under $50K would be awesome fun on the street, competent on the track, and still turn heads.

Aside from the looks you just decsrided a 1LE V6 Camaro.

[MX793]

Aside from the looks you just decsrided a 1LE V6 Camaro.

Other than weighing 3400 lbs, having 20" wheels (again, "affordable" performance tires are all 18" or smaller), and not being able to see a damned thing out of it.  Although I suppose the trunk space limitations on the Camaro are about the same as a mid-engine car...

Give me something like a Lotus Evora at half the price.

[NomisR]

Another Lotus Elise

[FoMoJo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZGCJu2OaAg

From the looks of it, they did a really good job.  Love the colour of the one in the video.  I'll be interested in seeing the specs when they drop the little  DOHC V8 engine in it.  If they stretch it out to about 5.0 litire, it should be quite a screamer.

[12,000 RPM]

Other than weighing 3400 lbs, having 20" wheels (again, "affordable" performance tires are all 18" or smaller), and not being able to see a damned thing out of it.  Although I suppose the trunk space limitations on the Camaro are about the same as a mid-engine car...

Give me something like a Lotus Evora at half the price.

Can someone explain why the 370z isn't on anyone's radar

It's only flaw is it's age. A couple grand fixes all its problems

[MrH]

Can someone explain why the 370z isn't on anyone's radar

It's only flaw is it's age. A couple grand fixes all its problems

Have you driven one?

It drives like shit.

[MX793]

Can someone explain why the 370z isn't on anyone's radar

It's only flaw is it's age. A couple grand fixes all its problems

Pretty much everything about that car feels like it's from 15 years ago (because, well, it is).  The interior looks worse/more plasticy than a base Mustang.  Viscous LSD is weak sauce (needs a Torsen or eDiff).  And it's kind of heavy.  For the same money as a 370Z Sport (which you need to get any kind of limited slip, base models are still open), you can get a Mustang Ecoboost Performance pack w/ Magnaride dampers.  Nicer cabin than the Z.  More usable trunk/interior space.  Only about 100 lbs heavier, slightly less power but way more low/midrange torque.  Torsen differential instead of that junk viscous unit in the Z.  Better suspension than the Z.  Much better daily driver while being every bit as capable on the track.

[BimmerM3]

The GPS front lifter is a piece of technology that is brilliant.  I bet everyone is going to steal the idea immediately (Ferrari, lambo etc).

It's been an option on the Model S for awhile now. As far as I know, they were the first to do the integration with GPS.

[SJ_GTI]

Have you driven one?

It drives like shit.

I thought he owned one at some point (350Z).

[93JC]

What has Nissan done to put the 370Z on anyone's radar?

Frankly I'm surprised they still make and sell the 370Z, they're a very rare sight. I was even more surprised when I looked at the pricing on nissan.ca just now and found that they've dropped the base price to about $30,500; shocking considering when the car came out ten years ago it was $10,000-$15,000 more. Goes to show how putrid the demand is.

[GoCougs]

I've always liked the 370Z (and no, no "fixes"). These Canucks loved it too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoHO9VFIeXA&t=886s

When the 350Z hit there was little competition - Just think back to the 2003 Mustang . When the 370Z hit in 2009, LOTS of competition - much of it cheaper, and ever more by the year.

[GoCougs]

Also, the 3.7L isn't entirely enjoyable, esp. with a M/T. Sure, the stats are impressive - N/A, 7,600 RPM red line, 330 hp and reliable and low maintenance, but it's buzzy, doesn't sound great, and is slow-ish to rev.

[giant_mtb]

I've always liked the 350 and 370.  I'd totally drive one. But would I buy one? I dunno.

[FoMoJo]

Can someone explain why the 370z isn't on anyone's radar

It's only flaw is it's age. A couple grand fixes all its problems

Not much of a looker.

[MX793]

What has Nissan done to put the 370Z on anyone's radar?

Frankly I'm surprised they still make and sell the 370Z, they're a very rare sight. I was even more surprised when I looked at the pricing on nissan.ca just now and found that they've dropped the base price to about $30,500; shocking considering when the car came out ten years ago it was $10,000-$15,000 more. Goes to show how putrid the demand is.

30,500 Canadian?  That's super cheap (my currency converter says that's about $24K US).  They start at 30,500 US down here south of the border.  The NISMO is $45.8K (~$59.8K CAD, way more than their price in Canada).  At Canadian prices, the Z becomes a far more compelling car.  At north of $30K US, I'll take one of the pony cars any day, every day.  Although Mustangs look to be a fair bit cheaper up in the North, too.  $33.5K CAD vs $35.5K USD for a base GT.  Converting currency, that's only $25K US.

[Payman]

I'm really impressed with what they've put together here. 

That said, having lived with a 400+ hp car for a while now, I'm actually more interested in lighter, less powerful cars.  You can't really open a car like this up on the street.  Even for something like auto-x, it's hugely overkill.  And brakes and 19/20" performance tires cost a fortune, especially if you do take it to the track or auto-x it (a set of 200TW "race" tires for my Mustang is close to $1400, and they last just over a season of auto-x, and "street" tires are about a grand a set).  Something that looks like this, but a few hundred lbs lighter (maybe a couple inches shorter in length), 18" wheels, a real stick shift, and a ~300-ish HP N/A V6 for under $50K would be awesome fun on the street, competent on the track, and still turn heads.

I completely get this. Somebody needs to build me a mid-engine 4 cyl 2 seater for under $35k. Before anyone says Elise, those fuckers were over $60k up here, and the cheapest used ones are in the 30-40k range.

[giant_mtb]

I looked up tires in C8 sizes...yeah, even for basic hi-po all seasons in those sizes you're pushing a $grand easy for a set.

[BimmerM3]

I completely get this. Somebody needs to build me a mid-engine 4 cyl 2 seater for under $35k. Before anyone says Elise, those fuckers were over $60k up here, and the cheapest used ones are in the 30-40k range.

About the same here, especially after accounting for exchange rate. Cheapest used ones are in the high $20s (though still in good condition at that price), and they were $50-60k new, IIRC.

[93JC]

30,500 Canadian?  That's super cheap (my currency converter says that's about $24K US).  They start at 30,500 US down here south of the border.  The NISMO is $45.8K (~$59.8K CAD, way more than their price in Canada).  At Canadian prices, the Z becomes a far more compelling car.  At north of $30K US, I'll take one of the pony cars any day, every day.  Although Mustangs look to be a fair bit cheaper up in the North, too.  $33.5K CAD vs $35.5K USD for a base GT.  Converting currency, that's only $25K US.

Yeah, like I said I was shocked. When the 350Z came out in 2002 base price was $45,000 (CAD).