The Official C8 Corvette Thread...

Started by Gotta-Qik-C7, April 25, 2018, 07:28:09 PM

MrH

Apparently it leaked on the corvette forums and is being taken down over and over.  Press release said 1,064 hp :wtf:
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GoCougs

So, basically, an 8 sec / 160 mph car if/when you can get it to hook up. JFC what is even going on

MrH

Quote from: GoCougs on July 25, 2024, 12:20:48 PMSo, basically, an 8 sec / 160 mph car if/when you can get it to hook up. JFC what is even going on

Apparently this isn't even the final form?!  There's another one coming out called the Zora, that will be the ZR-1 + the E-Ray front motor setup.

:wtf:  I don't get it at all.  The Z06 is already so over the top for a street car.
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Jesus, I stand corrected - only twin turbos (and anti lag too) - no hybrid or electrification of any kind.

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Quote from: MrH on July 25, 2024, 12:37:28 PMApparently this isn't even the final form?!  There's another one coming out called the Zora, that will be the ZR-1 + the E-Ray front motor setup.

:wtf:  I don't get it at all.  The Z06 is already so over the top for a street car.

This is the most powerful factory ICE-only sports car in the history of the world by a long shot. That it's factory means there is hundreds of millions of $$$ deployed in getting that 1064 hp through the chassis and into the ground. So this is going to really mean something but it's mostly only for GM to brag about selling to the elites, ala 911 Turbo S, Ferrari, Lambo, etc.

Would be nice to see it NOT go down the "road" of the 4,100 lb GT500 or 4,400 lb Hellcat cars (very powerful but excessively bloated versions of their lesser selves). The CZ ZR1 gained 200 lbs vs. the base Stingray (3,350 vs. 3,550 lbs). By that yardstick the C8 ZR1 would come in at 3,750 lbs. We shall see.

It's also not a hot V like most other TT V8s - turbos sit on the exhaust manifolds on either side of the head. From the pics they looks big so that's probably why. I'm also curious how the "anti-lag" works.

Me, I'd take a 6th gen Camaro with the Z06's LT6 and 6 MT (though I'd settle for the DCT) and be happier than a puppy with two peters. This thing will best a Model S Plaid and challenge a Lucid Air Sapphire plus be 1000x more capable in any other scenario than either.

MrH

Quote from: GoCougs on July 25, 2024, 10:34:02 PMThis is the most powerful factory ICE-only sports car in the history of the world by a long shot. That it's factory means there is hundreds of millions of $$$ deployed in getting that 1064 hp through the chassis and into the ground. So this is going to really mean something but it's mostly only for GM to brag about selling to the elites, ala 911 Turbo S, Ferrari, Lambo, etc.

Would be nice to see it NOT go down the "road" of the 4,100 lb GT500 or 4,400 lb Hellcat cars (very powerful but excessively bloated versions of their lesser selves). The CZ ZR1 gained 200 lbs vs. the base Stingray (3,350 vs. 3,550 lbs). By that yardstick the C8 ZR1 would come in at 3,750 lbs. We shall see.

It's also not a hot V like most other TT V8s - turbos sit on the exhaust manifolds on either side of the head. From the pics they looks big so that's probably why. I'm also curious how the "anti-lag" works.

Me, I'd take a 6th gen Camaro with the Z06's LT6 and 6 MT (though I'd settle for the DCT) and be happier than a puppy with two peters. This thing will best a Model S Plaid and challenge a Lucid Air Sapphire plus be 1000x more capable in any other scenario than either.

Apparently it's 3,750 lbs dry weight.  Z06 is 3,450 dry weight.  Probably around 200 lbs of fluid for each to get to the curb weight.

The Z06 runs 0-60 in 2.6 sec, and mid 10s in the 1/4 mile.

This adds 300 lbs of weight, but adds nearly 400 hp and loads more torque :wtf:  This kind of power through 2 wheels doesn't make any sense to me.  You're going to be traction limited until you're at totally insane speeds.

It's cool, but I would never buy one over a Z06.
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AutobahnSHO

LOVE that America's super car is still SUPER. Looks like less luggage space :lol:

Reportedly 215mph top speed!!
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r0tor

It seems like the top speed should be way above 215
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GoCougs

Quote from: r0tor on July 26, 2024, 08:18:31 PMIt seems like the top speed should be way above 215

Governed to due to both aero downforce and tires.

565

Quote from: GoCougs on July 26, 2024, 09:56:02 PMGoverned to due to both aero downforce and tires.

https://youtu.be/G7RDaOhKheE?si=Lvm71NhMjJd3p_pp

233mph top speed.  GM is doing the surprise thing right.

Gotta-Qik-C7

And The Zora will be even faster! Jeez......  :rockon:
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Eye of the Tiger

What's a Zora? I guess I'll post this even though I'm googling it right now.
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Well, 1200 HP seems a bit excessive. What are they compensating for?
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Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on October 16, 2024, 06:31:24 AMWhat's a Zora? I guess I'll post this even though I'm googling it right now.
Its suppose to be the New top C8 model. Most likely a ZR1 with and electric motor up front. Kinda like the ERay. At first it was gonna be it's own model but now I'm hearing it'll most likely be an option package on the ZR1.
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MrH

As cool as the ZR1 is...I don't really get the point?

The Z06 makes 670 hp and is naturally aspirated.  I can't think what would ever drive me to get a ZR1 over a Z06.  Better sounds, higher redline, cheaper, and still way too fast for a road car.
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Quote from: MrH on October 16, 2024, 07:22:40 AMAs cool as the ZR1 is...I don't really get the point?

The Z06 makes 670 hp and is naturally aspirated.  I can't think what would ever drive me to get a ZR1 over a Z06.  Better sounds, higher redline, cheaper, and still way too fast for a road car.
Me and my girl had this exact discussion. I think the ZR1/Zora is a middle finger to 911 Turbos and various Ferrari and Lamborghini models. And honestly the base C8 is enough for the streets.....
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MrH

Quote from: Gotta-Qik-C7 on October 16, 2024, 07:33:06 AMMe and my girl had this exact discussion. I think the ZR1/Zora is a middle finger to 911 Turbos and various Ferrari and Lamborghini models. And honestly the base C8 is enough for the streets.....

Yeah, the normal C8 is already stupid fast for a street car.  But I can understand paying the extra money for the special motor of the Z06.  I would always take an NA car or a turbo car if given the choice.
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Quote from: 565 on October 16, 2024, 04:39:38 AMhttps://youtu.be/G7RDaOhKheE?si=Lvm71NhMjJd3p_pp

233mph top speed.  GM is doing the surprise thing right.

Most all all hyper cars' top speeds are governed due to tires. The only street tire with such a speed rating is the Bugatti Veyron's Michelins at a cost of ~$11,000 each. Perhaps GM has inked an analogous deal as Bugatti for bespoke tires. So, 233 mph "top speed" but we'll see if 233 mph is the actual top speed.

GoCougs

Quote from: MrH on October 16, 2024, 07:22:40 AMAs cool as the ZR1 is...I don't really get the point?

The Z06 makes 670 hp and is naturally aspirated.  I can't think what would ever drive me to get a ZR1 over a Z06.  Better sounds, higher redline, cheaper, and still way too fast for a road car.

Halo car / marketing endeavor (and likely funded with Camaro development $$$). GM will lose a bunch of money on each sold but they've decided it is well worth it (and it probably is).

giant_mtb

Quote from: GoCougs on October 16, 2024, 01:47:04 PMMost all all hyper cars' top speeds are governed due to tires. The only street tire with such a speed rating is the Bugatti Veyron's Michelins at a cost of ~$11,000 each. Perhaps GM has inked an analogous deal as Bugatti for bespoke tires. So, 233 mph "top speed" but we'll see if 233 mph is the actual top speed.

The insane consistency of the material and balancing required of all the spinning parts (bearings, axle shafts, wheels, tires, rotors, etc) to do and maintain such speeds smoothly without catastrophic failure is pretty mindblowing. It's no small wonder why the Veyron's tires are so expensive.

GoCougs

Quote from: giant_mtb on October 16, 2024, 03:49:57 PMThe insane consistency of the material and balancing required of all the spinning parts (bearings, axle shafts, wheels, tires, rotors, etc) to do and maintain such speeds smoothly without catastrophic failure is pretty mindblowing. It's no small wonder why the Veyron's tires are so expensive.

Yes, indeed. The primary killer at those speeds isn't heat, it's centrifugal force looking to tear the tire apart. Centrifugal force is a function of the square of velocity, meaning double the velocity and centrifugal force increases by 4x and so on.



565

#1402
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63385121/2025-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-pricing/

175k starting.  CCB standard.

It's alot but honestly for what it is
, it's not outrageous.  You could option a z06 close to what the ZR1 starts at.

GT3s have exploded in price starting at 220k now.

This if anything will hopefully drive down Z06 prices even further.

GM says they aren't limiting production, so we will probably see massive markups to start, then MSRP sales, then discounts, just like the z06.

Gotta-Qik-C7

Quote from: 565 on January 09, 2025, 04:37:35 PMhttps://www.caranddriver.com/news/a63385121/2025-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-pricing/

175k starting.  CCB standard.

It's alot but honestly for what it is
, it's not outrageous.  You could option a z06 close to what the ZR1 starts at.

GT3s have exploded in price starting at 220k now.

This if anything will hopefully drive down Z06 prices even further.

GM says they aren't limiting production, so we will probably see massive markups to start, then MSRP sales, then discounts, just like the z06.
Not bad! I was guessing it was gonna start around $190,000......
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