EVs

[giant_mtb]

That's literally all it is. With a $20 chip and a couple solenoids inside that oscillates where the power should go based on demand. I feel so bad for EV people that don't know how electricity works.

[r0tor]

That's literally all it is. With a $20 chip and a couple solenoids inside that oscillates where the power should go based on demand. I feel so bad for EV people that don't know how electricity works.

Nah, inside is just a normally open relay on the dryer plug and a normally closed relay on the car charger plug.  Energize the dryer plug and it closed the relay to the dryer circuit and opens the car charger circuit.

[giant_mtb]

Nah, inside is just a normally open relay on the dryer plug and a normally closed relay on the car charger plug.  Energize the dryer plug and it closed the relay to the dryer circuit and opens the car charger circuit.

Ohhhh yeah, that would make sense, too.

[AutobahnSHO]

Renters don't have that luxury.

good point.

The EV market will need solutions for those that don't own a house with a charging garage.

[r0tor]

Talked to a coworker that just took their Prologue to Myrtle Beach SC...

Sounded similar to my observations in the outer banks - plenty of Tesla plugs and you are SOL otherwise.  Apparently his 10hr trip turned into 15hrs each way and then when he got to the destination he was in pure panic mode trying to find a plug that worked... Eventually sitting for 3hrd at a gas station after his SOC hit 8% searching for a usable plug.

[afty]

I recently upgraded my home charging situation from a Tesla Mobile Connector plugged into a 14-50 plug to a hardwired Tesla Wall Connector. I did this because the old setup hit thermal throttling while charging one night. It turns out that these 14-50 plugs were never intended for constant high amp loads, and cheap ones can loosen over time causing high heat and potentially a fire. The recommendation on the forums is to use an industrial grade plug, but I figured since the industry is standardizing on the NACS standard, I would just switch to hardwired so there's one less thing to go wrong.

[Morris Minor]

I recently upgraded my home charging situation from a Tesla Mobile Connector plugged into a 14-50 plug to a hardwired Tesla Wall Connector. I did this because the old setup hit thermal throttling while charging one night. It turns out that these 14-50 plugs were never intended for constant high amp loads, and cheap ones can loosen over time causing high heat and potentially a fire. The recommendation on the forums is to use an industrial grade plug, but I figured since the industry is standardizing on the NACS standard, I would just switch to hardwired so there's one less thing to go wrong.

I remember watching a video made by an electrician a while back - he was bemoaning the low quality of a lot of retail NEMA 14-50 receptacles... and the poor installations, e.g. not torquing down the terminals properly.

[AutobahnSHO]

Little things coming??

https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/ford-ceo-american-car-buyers-break-addiction

[Morris Minor]

Little things coming??

https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/ford-ceo-american-car-buyers-break-addiction

The climate emergency is less important than the no-votes emergency faced by EV-mandate-loving politicians. Jerbs.

[r0tor]

Oh so it's great to do their best to drive the market to monster vehicles when it profits them - and then back to small vehicles when it's a profit to them.

Thanks shit head

[RomanChariot]

My daughter and her husband just bought a Model Y and brought it over to show it off. It has a lot of interesting and quirky features like the "romance" mode. It was smooth and comfortable to drive. It would take me a couple of days to figure out everything going on in the user interface but it didn't take long to get used to one-pedal driving.

The car came with a free month of FSD which they are not planning on paying for after the free month. FSD is far from ready to be trusted. It did a good job of following maps but it is easily confused. It had 3 failures that required intervention in around 10 minutes of driving:

The first involved driving down a street that has a deep dip that you have to go through under 10mph. The car showed no intention of slowing down so I had to intervene.

The second was when it came to a road that was under construction. The paved road turned into a gravel road and then there were large signs stating "Road Closed" and "Detour." The car just continued on at the posted speed limit directly toward the "Road Closed" sign until the passengers got nervous so I intervened to take the detour.

The third involved returning to our house. It didn't seem to want to park in the driveway and the curbside parking was full. It slowed down and recognized that it couldn't park on the curb and then proceeded to go to a parallel street one block over. It came to the same location on that street as where our home was on the other street and there were cars there as well. The car just kind of started into a series of short jerky movements until I took control.

[GoCougs]

I've seen a few of the GMC Sierra EV on the road. Looks, shall we say, almost effeminate compared to the typical ICEV 1/2-ton trucks.

[CALL_911]

My BIL rented a Cybertruck off Turo this weekend. I hate it. But it is shockingly fast. This is a car made for all the basement-dwelling Reddit conspiracy theory sociopaths out there.

[AutobahnSHO]

I've seen a few of the GMC Sierra EV on the road. Looks, shall we say, almost effeminate compared to the typical ICEV 1/2-ton trucks.

That's not good! No matter how practical, efficient, or useful a vehicle may be underneath, looks are half the reason it sells in the first place...

[Laconian]

My BIL rented a Cybertruck off Turo this weekend. I hate it. But it is shockingly fast. This is a car made for all the basement-dwelling Reddit conspiracy theory sociopaths out there.

I have zero clue why Elon and his stans think it will sell hundreds of thousands. It triggers physical revulsion in me. My mom, oblivious to the CT, texted me a photo of one in the Trader Joes parking lot with the question "What is this???? It is hideous". She's never done that before, for any car. Quite a feat.

All of the CTs I've seen are covered with handprints around the doorsills. It's pretty funny.

[CALL_911]

It also sucks at its intended purpose (being a truck)

[GoCougs]

Oh, the decline of Elon and Tesla. Who woulda thunk. Jesus.

I see Cybertrucks every day - they look awful though TBF not quite as awful in person. For the longest time the marketing materials and prototypes had godawful backspacing, size and wheel gaps.

[Morris Minor]

Oh, the decline of Elon and Tesla. Who woulda thunk. Jesus.

I see Cybertrucks every day - they look awful though TBF not quite as awful in person. For the longest time the marketing materials and prototypes had godawful backspacing, size and wheel gaps.

I thinks they're much better looking than the usual run of the mill trucks, all that overwrought King Ranch Dressing & chrome. The engineering team at my son's company got one and pulled it apart to see how it ticked. Lots of very clever & thoughtful stuff.

[giant_mtb]

I saw a CT up close for the first time yesterday, charging in the Meijer parking lot. Driver wasn't in it, so I didn't feel weird doing a very slow driveby on it...it's even more awkward and ugly in person than in photos. It appeared to be in low/aero/whatever mode with the suspension, which probably doesn't help its proportions/awkwardness, but still. Puke.

[r0tor]

CT is especially repulsive when wrapped in ferrari red

[GoCougs]

I thinks they're much better looking than the usual run of the mill trucks, all that overwrought King Ranch Dressing & chrome. The engineering team at my son's company got one and pulled it apart to see how it ticked. Lots of very clever & thoughtful stuff.

Mos def - the average bro dozer; even unmodified; looks comically awful, and they just keep getting worse. The Cybertruck is trying-too-hard-to-be-modern awful.

[Laconian]

It doesn't use any of the lines and curves that visually mitigate the awfulness of big truck proportions. It's all there on stark display, about as attractive as a rail car or a dumpster.

[veeman]

I think the Cybertruck looks great.  It reminds me of Blade Runner. Perfect personal transportation vehicle for urban dystopian wasteland. It's got the same width as a Ford F-150 and is shorter than one so, for American standards, it's not obscenely large.

I don't see myself getting one because of its high price and stigma associated with owning one but I think it looks cool.

[Laconian]

How many of these $100+k trucks are driven in urban hellscapes?

[veeman]

How many of these $100+k trucks are driven in urban hellscapes?

I dunno but I'm assuming a large percentage of those sold in California are driven in Los Angeles.

 

[giant_mtb]

I think the Cybertruck looks great.  It reminds me of Blade Runner. Perfect personal transportation vehicle for urban dystopian wasteland. It's got the same width as a Ford F-150 and is shorter than one so, for American standards, it's not obscenely large.

I don't see myself getting one because of its high price and stigma associated with owning one but I think it looks cool.

It's like a Chevy Avalanche and Pontiac Aztec had a Downs Syndrome baby drawn by a toddler. You're a special kind of Elon simp if you think the CT looks "great."

[FoMoJo]

I think the Cybertruck looks great.  It reminds me of Blade Runner. Perfect personal transportation vehicle for urban dystopian wasteland. It's got the same width as a Ford F-150 and is shorter than one so, for American standards, it's not obscenely large.

I don't see myself getting one because of its high price and stigma associated with owning one but I think it looks cool.

In a dystopian wasteland where all beauty is destroyed, it would fit right in.

[MrH]

A cast aluminum unibody + heavy stainless steel body panels glued on is quite possibly the dumbest idea.  Brittle, lightweight structure for the frame, and heavy steel panels for the body that don't provide any rigidity...

It's all backwards for the sake of novelty.  But it's really, really fucking dumb from an engineering standpoint.

[veeman]

It's like a Chevy Avalanche and Pontiac Aztec had a Downs Syndrome baby drawn by a toddler. You're a special kind of Elon simp if you think the CT looks "great."

Typically an Elon simp who owns an EV would own a Tesla...

I have an EV but it is not a Tesla.

There's a lot of hyperbole regarding the ugliness of the Cybertruck usually referencing vomiting. Regardless of the quality of the vehicle or functionality as a pickup, its exterior design is pretty cool looking in my opinion.  The final product is very similar to the initial advertised design, and 2 million Americans put down a deposit on one, so thinking it looks cool would not be a rare opinion. 

"Special kind of simp" implies a rare quality but that doesn't seem to fit either.

[FoMoJo]

It's apparent that the CT is not designed to appeal to our instinctual/primal sense of beauty but rather to our intellectual minds; angles, straight lines and flat surfaces.  Personally I prefer the more romantic styling of soft curves and elegant proportioning.