All-New 2019 Mazda3 Looks Sleek Inside And Out In Best Photos Yet

[SJ_GTI]

I think the Mazda 3 is an interesting proposition. I own a car that is int he same neighborhood as the high end Mazda 3 hatch and GTI...although I almost feel like I paid extra to get the best of both worlds.

For me, I would likely take a loaded Mazda 3 hatch over a GTI...mainly because I would prefer the AWD over the manual if it came down to choosing. I also like to get as many of the premium features as I can on any car I get.

I mean I would rather have both a manual and AWD (and based on my current car I was clearly happy to pay more than what the Mazda or GTI cost to get it), but for me AWD is the more important feature (even fake haldex).

[CaminoRacer]

https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-mazda-3-is-smoother-quieter-and-still-fantast-1832068014

[MrH]

Looks fine.  Uninterested until the SkyActive X gets here.  When that happens, my buddy is probably going to get an AWD one to replace his 2014 Mazda 6.

[SJ_GTI]

Relating back to another thread on grills, I think the over sized grill on this car looks really good.

[Raza]

I quite like that, actually.

[Laconian]

"That, coupled with a new seat design meant to improve passenger posture and further reduce road impacts, is meant to offer a smoother, more comfortable and quieter ride experience. The new seats are meant to put a person's spine and pelvis in a walking position, which Mazda believes helps the brain subconsciously stabilize the head as the car turns and takes bumps, like it does with the impact of your legs walking beneath you.

Mazda even showed us videos of head movement over a speed bump in the new car compared to the old, and there was consistently a more visible impact from the old car."

Music to my ears. It's fantastic that Mazda's sweating the details WRT the ergonomics of driving enjoyment.

[Laconian]

Relating back to another thread on grills, I think the over sized grill on this car looks really good.

It's because it doesn't have a hare lip like the new 7 series does.

[12,000 RPM]

Hopefully they eventually pair the 2.5T with AWD in either this or the 6 (preferably the 6)

[Laconian]

I wish it was Teuts that was BTAC'ing HCCI to the world.

[MX793]

I wish it was Teuts that was BTAC'ing HCCI to the world.

But then who would be there to assure us that all is well at Faraday Future, contrary to what the media is reporting?

[68_427]

Y'all are overstating the "sporting pretentions" of the Mazda3. That comparison would make more sense if they offered a Mazdaspeed version.

I don't know.  Autoblog seemed to think it was pretty "sporty". 

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/27/2019-mazda3-first-drive-review-87hy65/

[BimmerM3]

I don't know.  Autoblog seemed to think it was pretty "sporty". 

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/27/2019-mazda3-first-drive-review-87hy65/

Well, good.

But it's still not a direct GTI competitor.

[Onslaught]

Girlfriend just got a 2018 Mazda3 grand touring. It's an ok car for what it is. Someone totaled her Civic so she couldn't hold out for the 19's to show up.

[Laconian]

Girlfriend just got a 2018 Mazda3 grand touring. It's an ok car for what it is. Someone totaled her Civic so she couldn't hold out for the 19's to show up.

My parents got a great deal on a 2018. I think they made the right choice; the rear visibility of the 19 is regrettable.

[FoMoJo]

My parents got a great deal on a 2018. I think they made the right choice; the rear visibility of the 19 is regrettable.

So is the torsion beam.

[CaminoRacer]

So is the torsion beam.

First reviews seem to like it.

[BimmerM3]

So is the torsion beam.

Not according to the reviews I've read.

[FoMoJo]

First reviews seem to like it.

Not according to the reviews I've read.

A step backwards.

[BimmerM3]

A step backwards.

Why does it matter if it drives just as well?

[Laconian]

Mazda said that the torsion beam reduces cabin noise, which is 100% a thing my parents complain about in their '18.

[2o6]

I feel like 5 years ago most of y'all didn't know or care what a torsion beam was.

[FoMoJo]

Why does it matter if it drives just as well?

Just as well?  It should be better.

[FoMoJo]

Mazda said that the torsion beam reduces cabin noise, which is 100% a thing my parents complain about in their '18.

Insulation reduces noise as well.

[2o6]

They're also compact.

[FoMoJo]

They're also compact.

And cheaper.  For most driving conditions, it wouldn't matter. 

[HurricaneSteve]

Don't Golf TDI's use torsion beams? Either way, they've increased leg room, made it quieter, ride better and still handle well. I don't see the problem.

A step backwards.

[r0tor]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a26112429/what-needs-to-happen-to-bring-mazdaspeed-back/


Mazda is now too "mature" for Mazdaspeed products... Another in a long list of reasons the brand is dead to me

[12,000 RPM]

So they can retune the hell out of the 2.0i for the Miata but they can't retune the 2.5T for an MS3? Lol

Are the German brands less mature than Mazda?

Let me be nice.

[Onslaught]

I like Mazdaspeed. But let's be real, the Mazdaspeed cars didn't sell well not one of them. The MS Protege,  MS MX-5 and MS6 collected dust on the lots. The MX-5 type R couldn't be given away. It's popular now but not then.

And the MS3 did ok. Better then the others but not great.

[WookieOnRitalin]

I like Mazdaspeed. But let's be real, the Mazdaspeed cars didn't sell well not one of them. The MS Protege,  MS MX-5 and MS6 collected dust on the lots. The MX-5 type R couldn't be given away. It's popular now but not then.

And the MS3 did ok. Better then the others but not great.

The Car industry has a parallel with the movie industry. No one wants to make anything that won't make money (I know, not a big revelation).

It seems as though none of the major manufacturers want to make "speed" products for the masses as there is no money there. It seems that most of the tuning will end up aftermarket. I would say if that is your schtick, then why not just buy something used and tune it if that's what you want to do.