Mustang Mach-E

Started by Payman, November 15, 2019, 04:12:33 AM

12,000 RPM

What is the prize of this pedantry contest, and can we set a deadline for final entries to win it?
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veeman

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 22, 2019, 05:15:05 AM
What is the prize of this pedantry contest, and can we set a deadline for final entries to win it?

I quit  :lol:

2o6

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 22, 2019, 05:15:05 AM
What is the prize of this pedantry contest, and can we set a deadline for final entries to win it?


I have to agree. This is some dumb ass discourse for shit nobody buys.

12,000 RPM

I think this thing will do well and is a positive sign for Ford's electric future.
Protecctor of the Atmospheric Engine #TheyLiedToUs

2o6

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 22, 2019, 07:43:13 AM
I think this thing will do well and is a positive sign for Ford's electric future.


The Tesla truck is the best publicity the Mach E could have got.

GoCougs

#155
Quote from: MX793 on November 22, 2019, 04:58:07 AM
Please cite a specification.

The absence of a B pillar is the distinction of a hardtop, not a coupe.  Coupes, sedans, and even wagons may or may not be hardtops.  The mid 50s Bel Air could be had as either a 2 or 4 door hardtop (no pillar) or sedan (with pillar).

I also wouldn't take Chevy marketing as to what is or isn't a coupe as gospel.  They marketed fixed-roof Corvairs as "spyders".  A spyder is a roadster.

Actually, the specification is what an automaker calls it:

Pontiac LeMans coupe:



Cadillac Coupe DeVille:



A coupe can have a b-pillar, if the rear window doesn't roll down:









r0tor

The classification fail is cars have grown and the SAE standard has not been updated
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

Soup DeVille

Who looks up SAE classifications before deciding what to call a car?

A Coupe, BTW, is a cut-down sedan for two passengers, plus a driver and (optionally) a footman that is pulled by no more than two horses.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Eye of the Tiger

Cutlass Supreme with nacho cheese :wub:
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RomanChariot

Well since trying to define specifications for what vehicle terms mean is pedantry, I am going to say that the Challenger is a Pickup truck in the vein of a Chevy Avalanche. It is RWD, it has 2 rows of seats and it has an exterior cargo area with a locking hard cover.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: RomanChariot on November 22, 2019, 10:13:30 AM
Well since trying to define specifications for what vehicle terms mean is pedantry, I am going to say that the Challenger is a Pickup truck in the vein of a Chevy Avalanche. It is RWD, it has 2 rows of seats and it has an exterior cargo area with a locking hard cover.

Arguing over inches of length and rear seating space is pedantic.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator

RomanChariot

Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 22, 2019, 10:29:19 AM
Arguing over inches of length and rear seating space is pedantic.

Men have been arguing over that since they first looked in their pants.

Soup DeVille

Quote from: RomanChariot on November 22, 2019, 10:32:22 AM
Men have been arguing over that since they first looked in their pants.

Well, those inches are more precious to come by.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator

giant_mtb

Quote from: RomanChariot on November 22, 2019, 10:32:22 AM
Men have been arguing over that since they first looked in their pants.

:clap:

CaminoRacer

Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 21, 2019, 10:51:31 PM
A coupe is a coach that has been cut down to a two-seater. That's two passengers, a footman and a driver, and two horses.

Anything else is Not a coupe.

:lol:

:golfclap:
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CaminoRacer

Quote from: 2o6 on November 22, 2019, 07:44:05 AM

The Tesla truck is the best publicity the Mach E could have got.

+1!
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AutobahnSHO

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 22, 2019, 07:43:13 AM
I think this thing will do well and is a positive sign for Ford's electric future.

+1

I don't like the mustang name going on a non-sports car but whatever.

EVERYONE said Porsche was nuts building an SUV, but that probably saved them?....
Will

MX793

Porsche had the good sense not to name their SUV the "911 GT3X".
Needs more Jiggawatts

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12,000 RPM

If they did the outcome would have been exactly the same.
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NomisR

Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 22, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
Who looks up SAE classifications before deciding what to call a car?

A Coupe, BTW, is a cut-down sedan for two passengers, plus a driver and (optionally) a footman that is pulled by no more than two horses.

This?


NomisR

Quote from: MX793 on November 24, 2019, 08:05:11 PM
Porsche had the good sense not to name their SUV the "911 GT3X".
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on November 25, 2019, 05:30:06 AM
If they did the outcome would have been exactly the same.

In retrospect, it may have sold even better..

Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator

GoCougs


Eye of the Tiger

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r0tor

Would it hurt a horse's feelings if it were found to not produce 1 SAE horsepower?
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

Soup DeVille

Quote from: r0tor on November 25, 2019, 01:27:07 PM
Would it hurt a horse's feelings if it were found to not produce 1 SAE horsepower?

Horses in general produce around 4 hp (peak), but there's of course a story behind that too...

The difference of course is "coupe" is not a standardized unit of measurement.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

1975 Honda CB750, 1986 Rebel Rascal (sailing dinghy), 2015 Mini Cooper, 2020 Winnebago 31H (E450), 2021 Toyota 4Runner, 2022 Lincoln Aviator

FoMoJo

"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." ~ Albert Einstein
"As the saying goes, when you mix science and politics, you get politics."

MX793

Needs more Jiggawatts

2016 Ford Mustang GTPP / 2011 Toyota Rav4 Base AWD / 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ABS
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback / 2004 Mazda Mazda3s / 2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium / 2007 Suzuki GSF1250SA Bandit / 2006 VW Jetta 2.5

ChrisV

Wow. read the WHOLE thread. Arguing worse than anything I ever did here. And Cougs being a royal idiot once again who really doesn't know what he's talking about especially when it comes to modern EVs.

I'm a multi time Mustang owner of modern and classic Mustangs and a fan of the marque. And I like this EV. I understand what they were doing with the branding, generating buzz that an Escape EV would not have done. How much buzz?

The first year's production of the $61k First Edition is sold out already. So much for the "it won't sell" remarks in the thread.

I would love to have one of these as the daily driver in a garage next to a GT350 or GT500.
Like a fine Detroit wine, this vehicle has aged to budgetary perfection...

Eye of the Tiger

2008 TUNDRA (Truck Ultra-wideband Never-say-die Daddy Rottweiler Awesome)