Cybertruck

[GoCougs]

https://electrek.co/2024/01/04/tesla-cybertruck-drives-254-miles-in-highway-range-test/

46 degrees. 254 mile range. The pack is 123kWh, so we're talking 2mi/kWh or 500Wh/mi. That's far better than 800Wh/mi, but the overall range still significantly underperforms versus Rivian or even the Ford F150 Lightning.

I'm guessing they're all about the same level of turrrribulllness - and also illustrative of why EV flight is similarly a no-go for most situations.

[Laconian]

Not necessarily. The half-ton ICE truck template might not work well, but there is a whole world of possibilities for useful electrified utility vehicles. The Canoo and the Rivian delivery van show what's possible with some lateral thinking. The fragile American male ego might not embrace it, but there is a lot of potential for companies and governments with modest around-town needs.

[FoMoJo]

Not necessarily. The half-ton ICE truck template might not work well, but there is a whole world of possibilities for useful electrified utility vehicles. The Canoo and the Rivian delivery van show what's possible with some lateral thinking. The fragile American male ego might not embrace it, but there is a lot of potential for companies and governments with modest around-town needs.

I remember in the '50s when milk vans were "electrified."  People didn't like a noisy I/C engine that early in the morning.  All you heard was the rattling of the milk bottles.

[Laconian]

That sounds idyllic.

My early mornings are punctuated with uncorked RAMs and WRXes attempting to hit vmax.

[CaminoRacer]

I remember in the '50s when milk vans were "electrified."  People didn't like a noisy I/C engine that early in the morning.  All you heard was the rattling of the milk bottles.

Silent Fedex/UPS trucks would be kinda nice, but also it's fun to hear my car parts about to be delivered

[giant_mtb]

That sounds idyllic.

My early mornings are punctuated with uncorked RAMs and WRXes attempting to hit vmax.

Never move here. You might hear a train horn, a snowmobile rippin' 9k RPM, feel a mine blast, or, god forbid, somebody that has a slight exhaust leak warming up their car in the morning.

The horror!

You have money. Build your house better, get rid of the noise if you want to.

[Laconian]

Never move here. You might hear a train horn, a snowmobile rippin' 9k RPM, feel a mine blast, or, god forbid, somebody that has a slight exhaust leak warming up their car in the morning.

The horror!

You have money. Build your house better, get rid of the noise if you want to.

That would involve a pretty big move. Everything's packing in right now. GPS maps really screwed us over because they turned a fairly modest, unknown road into a major bypass route for commuters on the congested interstates.

[Eye of the Tiger]

That would involve a pretty big move. Everything's packing in right now. GPS maps really screwed us over because they turned a fairly modest, unknown road into a major bypass route for commuters on the congested interstates.

You must be my next door neighbor, because that sounds exactly like my house.

[Laconian]

And in general cars have become noisier than 10 years ago. Cops don't issue noise violations anymore. I've read a number of local Subaru club posts where people gloat about how much more lax it is in Seattle than it is in LA.

[Laconian]

You must be my next door neighbor, because that sounds exactly like my house.

I've heard of people towing Radio Flyer wagons full of old phones hooked up to Google Maps to build an illusion of traffic jams.

[Eye of the Tiger]

I've heard of people towing Radio Flyer wagons full of old phones hooked up to Google Maps to build an illusion of traffic jams.

Very interesting...

[CaminoRacer]

I've heard of people towing Radio Flyer wagons full of old phones hooked up to Google Maps to build an illusion of traffic jams.

That's quite the hobby

[Laconian]

https://www.wired.com/story/99-phones-fake-google-maps-traffic-jam/

[GoCougs]

I remember in the '50s when milk vans were "electrified."  People didn't like a noisy I/C engine that early in the morning.  All you heard was the rattling of the milk bottles.

All my Amazon deliveries are now via their Rivian EV vans. Very welcomed. The UPS trucks are the worst - just loud, crude (= CHEAP) junk. How they're road legal with all that racket is a scam.

Just like with forklifts, electric versions have their place. Routes can be planned around EV range, and they can be refueled in off hours without having to visit a pump.

[AutobahnSHO]

Wait until they start modding the electric trucks.

There are Maverick owners who complain when they put wider tires, lift them, and remove the "unsightly" air deflectors in front of the tires that mileage goes down...   

[Morris Minor]

Not necessarily. The half-ton ICE truck template might not work well, but there is a whole world of possibilities for useful electrified utility vehicles. The Canoo and the Rivian delivery van show what's possible with some lateral thinking. The fragile American male ego might not embrace it, but there is a lot of potential for companies and governments with modest around-town needs.

Agreed, all with highly predictable local routes & usage, perfect for fleet management & intelligent charging strategies: deliveries, HVAC techs, ISPs, plumbers, electricians, pest control etc.

[r0tor]

They need to lighten the Lightning.

With regen, weight isn't really that big of an efficiency issue.

The EV drivetrain is 90% efficient.  That means 90% of the battery goes to friction losses, aero drag, and parasitic losses from cooling/HVAC/infotainment.  There is literally not much in those areas to ever get significant efficiency gains from.

[giant_mtb]

That would involve a pretty big move. Everything's packing in right now. GPS maps really screwed us over because they turned a fairly modest, unknown road into a major bypass route for commuters on the congested interstates.

I can empathize with that. It's no fun when your quiet area becomes unreasonably trafficked (aka, how I feel about the entire UP ).

[CaminoRacer]

Wait until they start modding the electric trucks.

There are Maverick owners who complain when they put wider tires, lift them, and remove the "unsightly" air deflectors in front of the tires that mileage goes down...   

I wonder how much range the angry jeep eyes will lose

[Laconian]

Agreed, all with highly predictable local routes & usage, perfect for fleet management & intelligent charging strategies: deliveries, HVAC techs, ISPs, plumbers, electricians, pest control etc.

I think that might be overthinking it. Just some vans and some L2 chargers at Joe Blow's HVAC biz. Contractors spend most of their time parked and I'm guessing their clientele are seldom more than 30 miles apart.

[r0tor]

"I'm sorry sir... You and your family will have to be cold tonight because our truck ran out of battery.  Better luck tomorrow."

[Morris Minor]

I think that might be overthinking it. Just some vans and some L2 chargers at Joe Blow's HVAC biz. Contractors spend most of their time parked and I'm guessing their clientele are seldom more than 30 miles apart.

Good point. But a lot of the Joe Blows round here make sure someone two or three owners up the line has taken the depreciation hit, & buy old luxo-trim F150s. So not unusual to see mid-aughts-early-'10s King Ranches with dried paint for bedliners & tools of the trade piled in the back. I don't see them moving to EVs anytime soon.

[Laconian]

The Out of Spec Review video said that all the PR "reviews" from Camissa and the like have been on the three motor Cyberbeast trim which has never been for sale and has no pricing or release data available.

The cars which actually have been sold to people have been the two motor Foundation trim models.

Was this tiny detail communicated on ANY of the videos? Didn't they all mention that the truck they were testing was the released unit, and not the Cyberbeast? It's crazy how auto journalists have debased themselves for the Tesla hype machine.

[MrH]

"Journalists" can be bought for pretty cheap.

The most ridiculous part of the "Founder's Edition" isn't that it's the dual motor and not the triple motor. It's that they're forced to spend $20k for autopilot and FSD, which isn't even available for it! They're forced to buy features, which don't work as claimed on the other Tesla models to begin with. But they aren't even available on the Cybertruck.

The fraud continues to reach more and more ridiculous levels every day.

[AutobahnSHO]

https://jalopnik.com/cybertrucks-keep-getting-stuck-in-snow-1851148697

[giant_mtb]

Comes with pretty junk tires, as far as tread pattern/depth appears.  The fancy looking (eh, retarded looking) sidewall design makes the stock tires look a lot more trucky than they actually are. 

[CaminoRacer]

Good video showing that while the Cybertruck can beat a Porsche 911 while towing a Porsche 911 in the 1/8th mile, it can't beat it in the 1/4 mile.

[Laconian]

The Cybertruck is already being Osbourned. Sucks to be an early adopter.

https://www.torquenews.com/11826/elon-musk-reveals-tesla-already-working-roll-out-1st-major-cybertruck-hardware-upgrade

[AutobahnSHO]

The Cybertruck is already being Osbourned. Sucks to be an early adopter.

https://www.torquenews.com/11826/elon-musk-reveals-tesla-already-working-roll-out-1st-major-cybertruck-hardware-upgrade

1800 lbs of drywall, amazing. [/s]  Mav's bed appears to be the same size and can haul 1500lbs......

[Laconian]

The CT's stainless steel might be "bulletproof" but it is raw and unprotected. The manual recommends that you wash it ASAP if it comes into contact with any kind of staining material, e.g. resin, road debris, bird poop, etc., otherwise it will become permanently discolored.

Screencap of the manual:


https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-Cybertruck-wash-immediately-pedantic-cleaning-recommendations-spark-indignation.794569.0.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter