Mid-size Lux Sedans

[TBR]

It was a test of AWD sports sedans so the IS350 was out as well as the IS250 6MT.

[SJ_GTI]

They shouldn't have put a whimpering 250 in that pack of wolves, of course they beat it around like a pup--where's the 350, and as somebody else said, where's the third pedal in a 350! Paddle shifters are a novelty that wear off quick--and btw, I know, I own the car. ;-)

The be fair, the A4 only had a 200 HP engine as well, and the 325xi only had 215 (only ~10 more than the Lexus if I recall).

That being said I've driven an IS250 AWD. Its not as involved as a BMW or Infiniti, but I thought it was a pretty fun car in any event.

[ArchBishop]

I have a friend with a 1998 A8 4.2 Quattro that had to have a transmission replacement at 110k.? It does happen.

Wait. I Though Audis didn't have problems, and CR was trash?

What you did, taking a perfectly good family car and converting into some sort of race car is waste of money, you're right.  But it is wrong to apply that experience to any modification done to any car.

So says you. But I don't have to ask you, or anyone, how to spend my money on something I enjoy as a hobby.

Archbishop-

I agree with you about some of your comments on the 1.8T engine.  However, most, if not all, have all been remedied with the new 2.0T.  I suggest you go drive one, your opinion might just change.

Also, don't let the guys here bug you too much about modding your Altima.  I can understand the appeal in making an otherwise non-performance oriented car into something different.  Hopefully you left off the big wings and fartcan mufflers.

Its Funny you agree with me because supposedly I have never driven the car to make that judgement But its true, I did admit to not drving the new one, but Car And Driver's review on it Vs the Previous Generation G35 (which it lost to BTW) made it seem like it was more of the same.

And actually, from the cat, all the way back, my car is running  a stock exhaust system. (and no wing) Though, I am considering a 3.0 Catback exhaust, though the noise might make it annoying to DD.

Why would you pour that much cash into an Altima?

Because I wanted to. Its That simple.

But changing the transmission, full suspension, putting swaybars, and changing basically everything in the engine besides the block itself?
That doesn't sound like reasonable mods man.

The only engine internals I changed were camshafts. And I gained approx 25hp or more, better grip, better blance, and more fun. I'm not Complaining.

You are spouting ignorant opinions as though they are facts. I don't give two shits if this is offensive to you, as your ignorance and idiocy is offensive to not only myself, bit to other adults on this forum (like saxonyron as an example). You keep proving you are an immature twit, who does NOT deserve to be listened to. yeah, it's starting to not only sound like C&D, but like every other automotive board populated by opinionated teenagers.

Please Chris, how many cars have you modded (not restored) that were made in the past 18 years have you got back the Value of the mods+ car?

Wow, a lot of dissing of the A4.

As a former owner of a B6 A4 1.8T Quattro 6MT, I think its a great car. Overall, I would say that my A4 was actually a better car than my GTI, even considering the much better engine of the GTI.

In regards to the B6 vs B7, from personal experience I don't think the difference is that big of a deal. Sure the engine is a nice upgrade, but the overall driving experience is pretty much the same (and yes, I had the sport package). Considering that for ~600 bucks you could chip a 1.8T to walk all over a stock 2.0T I don't think the difference there is all that worth getting excited over either (and yes, I realize you can also chip a 2.0T...but if you were "upgrading" to a new B7 from a B6 it would never be worth it based on the engine alone, its far simpler to just upgrade the engine itself).

My two favorite cars in this class are the 3er and A4, though for slightly different reasons. I would also rate the Lexus IS above the G35 as far as sport sedans that I like (I just wish you would get the 3.5L Lexus with a stick!).

I don't know the Generation codes, nor Chassis numbers of Audi cars, but I will post a picture of it so you can tell me what his car is.

[ArchBishop]

And on the subject of modding cars, my friends 14.0 @ 100mph RSX-S


Ask him why, and he'll tell you the same thing. And for the record, it cost him less to make that car run a near 13 second 1/4, than it would to trade in, and Buy up to a 350Z or Mustang.

[TBR]

The A4 has gone through a complete redesign and a major refresh since then smart one. This includes a new suspension and 50 more horsepower from a new engine.

[850CSi]

The A4 has gone through a complete redesign and a major refresh since then smart one. This includes a new suspension and 50 more horsepower from a new engine.

30HP if you're talking about the 1.8T.

[TBR]

I thought it made 150hp in the original A4?

[goldenlover1101]

I just spent 30 minutes reading through some pretty hostile posts. I respect everyone's opinions, and while I agree that his opinion on Audis are not founded in reality, he is entitled to them and just ignore him if you disagree. i think the A4 is a wonderful car and would have to seriously look at one if shopping in the class. However, a dispute should not arise from disproving that. Oh, as I think it was stupid to mod the Altima, I am not going to say that he was wrong because reasons may exist why. I like the RSX-S though, thats a nice car which makes sense to mod. I am not taking sides, simply stationg opinion.

[850CSi]

I thought it made 150hp in the original A4?

I think we're both right. Mine made 150, but I think the post-facelift models had 170.

[Galaxy]

That is a B5. The current A4 is the B7, with the B8 debuting in the fall.

[saxonyron]

I think we're both right. Mine made 150, but I think the post-facelift models had 170.

The first iteration of the 1.8T made 150 i n1998, but was upgraded in 99 or 2000 to 170.  In 2005.5, the 2.0T was introduced with 200 HP and fuel stratified injection (FSI).

[S204STi]

S4 FTW!

[JYODER240]

Wait. I Though Audis didn't have problems, and CR was trash?

My 03 Accord also lost a tranny and according to CR they are very relieable. In fact the 2 03 Accords my family owned gave us more trouble than my Nissan, my parents Cadillac's, and my sisters C-class.

[Raza]

I just spent 30 minutes reading through some pretty hostile posts. I respect everyone's opinions, and while I agree that his opinion on Audis are not founded in reality, he is entitled to them and just ignore him if you disagree. i think the A4 is a wonderful car and would have to seriously look at one if shopping in the class. However, a dispute should not arise from disproving that. Oh, as I think it was stupid to mod the Altima, I am not going to say that he was wrong because reasons may exist why. I like the RSX-S though, thats a nice car which makes sense to mod. I am not taking sides, simply stationg opinion.

14 seconds is really fast for a front driver, I'm assuming he's putting down way too much power and has to run drag slicks.  It's impressive, but if I were modding an RSX-S, I would boost power a little (maybe around 15-25bhp or so) and then work on handling from there.

[ArchBishop]

14 seconds is really fast for a front driver, I'm assuming he's putting down way too much power and has to run drag slicks.? It's impressive, but if I were modding an RSX-S, I would boost power a little (maybe around 15-25bhp or so) and then work on handling from there.

14 flat on street tires. 2.3 Second 60ft. A sketchy rule says for ever tenth of a second that you take off your 60ft, its good for .2 off your 1/4mile time. Dropping it down to a 2.0 on slicks would most likely be good for mid 13's.

[Raza]

14 flat on street tires. 2.3 Second 60ft. A sketchy rule says for ever tenth of a second that you take off your 60ft, its good for .2 off your 1/4mile time. Dropping it down to a 2.0 on slicks would most likely be good for mid 13's.

That's really impressive.

[ArchBishop]

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=404336

[goldenlover1101]

14 seconds is really fast for a front driver, I'm assuming he's putting down way too much power and has to run drag slicks.? It's impressive, but if I were modding an RSX-S, I would boost power a little (maybe around 15-25bhp or so) and then work on handling from there.

I agree completely, algthough I respect what he did with his car.

[LonghornTX]

Arch-

How about posting some pics of this beast of an Altima (in the correct forum of course)?

[Minpin]

Arch-

How about posting some pics of this beast of an Altima (in the correct forum of course)?

www.ebay.com is what you meant right?  :P

[Raghavan]

14 seconds is really fast for a front driver, I'm assuming he's putting down way too much power and has to run drag slicks. It's impressive, but if I were modding an RSX-S, I would boost power a little (maybe around 15-25bhp or so) and then work on handling from there.

C/D's RSX had 276 hp, and ~230 at the wheels, so they say, and that ran a 13.5 second quarter mile.

[Raza]

C/D's RSX had 276 hp, and ~230 at the wheels, so they say, and that ran a 13.5 second quarter mile.

276bhp is way too much for a FWD car. 

[Raghavan]

Yes, I suppose, but apparently the car was very trackable and easy to drive.

[Raza]

Yes, I suppose, but apparently the car was very trackable and easy to drive.

It was a car they built.  Do you think anyone walks around saying their kid is the worst player on his little league team?

[Raghavan]

It was a car they built. Do you think anyone walks around saying their kid is the worst player on his little league team?

Well, maybe they were comparing it to the other cars, in which case C/D's had the second lowest HP.
Or it could be the fact that they sunk $80 grand into the RSX in the end, and major suspension upgrades would've taken a good chunk of that money.

[MexicoCityM3]

S4 M3 FTW!

Fixed.  :P