944 Turbo vs. RX-7 vs. M3 vs. Trans Am

[R33 GT-R]

Right on, only do the good drugs.

Seriously.  I'm talking acid, clean coke, and absinthe.

Oh...absinthe...how I long for thee...

Don't forget MDMA, lab grade of course.

[Raza]

Right on, only do the good drugs.

Seriously.  I'm talking acid, clean coke, and absinthe.

Oh...absinthe...how I long for thee...

Don't forget MDMA, lab grade of course.

X?  Eh, to each his own.  I like the natural stuff.  Or anything that will FUBAR you.

[R33 GT-R]

Right on, only do the good drugs.

Seriously.  I'm talking acid, clean coke, and absinthe.

Oh...absinthe...how I long for thee...

Don't forget MDMA, lab grade of course.

X?  Eh, to each his own.  I like the natural stuff.  Or anything that will FUBAR you.

that's why I said lab grade, not bathtub and press grade.  

[Raza]

Right on, only do the good drugs.

Seriously.  I'm talking acid, clean coke, and absinthe.

Oh...absinthe...how I long for thee...

Don't forget MDMA, lab grade of course.

X?  Eh, to each his own.  I like the natural stuff.  Or anything that will FUBAR you.

that's why I said lab grade, not bathtub and press grade.

Dateline says X is bad for you...

FUBAR!

[BMWDave]

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Raza, have you checked out this 87 M6?

[TBR]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.  

[BMWDave]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o  

[TBR]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

Yes it was, it was a large coupe that most likely weighed over 3000 lbs.  

[BMWDave]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

Yes it was, it was a large coupe that most likely weighed over 3000 lbs.

Hardly GT by any measure...the Corvette and 911 both weigh over 3000 pounds...a very unsuitable measurement of a GT car, if you ask me.

[TBR]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

Yes it was, it was a large coupe that most likely weighed over 3000 lbs.

Hardly GT by any measure...the Corvette and 911 both weigh over 3000 pounds...a very unsuitable measurement of a GT car, if you ask me.

Fine then, maybe weight isn't the best measurement, but size certainly is and there is no debating the fact that the M6 was a large coupe. Don't get me wrong, I like the M6, it was one of my favorite cars for a long time. But, I don't think it is what Raza is looking for.  

[TBR]

Does anyone know how much power the 944 Turbo has?  

[footoflead]

i would go for the RX7 with twins....fast as hell...tinker with the suspension a little and you will beat the pants off a lot of guys...i know a couple guys that run about 10lbs of boost and can do low 13's consitently...i would settle for a nice lookin first gen...a third gen that hasnt been screwed up would be a great car...even though they have wierd maintence needs...once you learn a little bout them...they can be fast as hell!

[Raghavan]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

yes it is.
Raza, get the M3. best looking and most practical, and it's quite fast too.
Personally, i'd the the E30 M3.  

[Rupert]

Right on, only do the good drugs.

Seriously.  I'm talking acid, clean coke, and absinthe.

Oh...absinthe...how I long for thee...

Don't forget MDMA, lab grade of course.

X?  Eh, to each his own.  I like the natural stuff.  Or anything that will FUBAR you.

...Since acid is all natural and all... <_< You've still forgotten 'shrooms, maryjoohuana, and beer. (All of which are more natural than LSD). And if you wanna be completely FUBAR'd, go find some DMT or DPT.

[BMWDave]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

Yes it was, it was a large coupe that most likely weighed over 3000 lbs.

Hardly GT by any measure...the Corvette and 911 both weigh over 3000 pounds...a very unsuitable measurement of a GT car, if you ask me.

Fine then, maybe weight isn't the best measurement, but size certainly is and there is no debating the fact that the M6 was a large coupe. Don't get me wrong, I like the M6, it was one of my favorite cars for a long time. But, I don't think it is what Raza is looking for.

It was a large coupe, but was one of the fastest and best handling cars around in the mid 80s.  Sure, it could seat you in comfort, but that isnt the only mark of a GT car.  The M6 was quite the sporty car.

[BMWDave]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

yes it is.
Raza, get the M3. best looking and most practical, and it's quite fast too.
Personally, i'd the the E30 M3.

See my argument with TBR.

And an E30 is probably my favorite M3...I just love the looks!  Sometimes I wish I had a E30 M3 instead of a regular E30.

[Raghavan]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

yes it is.
Raza, get the M3. best looking and most practical, and it's quite fast too.
Personally, i'd the the E30 M3.

See my argument with TBR.

And an E30 is probably my favorite M3...I just love the looks!  Sometimes I wish I had a E30 M3 instead of a regular E30.

that was my dream car, but those things are extremely rare where i live, and all are probably high mileage cars, i'd think, so it wouldn't be a good idea to get one. maybe as a restoration project when i'm older.

[Raghavan]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

yes it is.
Raza, get the M3. best looking and most practical, and it's quite fast too.
Personally, i'd the the E30 M3.

See my argument with TBR.

And an E30 is probably my favorite M3...I just love the looks!  Sometimes I wish I had a E30 M3 instead of a regular E30.

i guess everyone has different standards on what's a sports car or a GT car.

[TBR]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

Yes it was, it was a large coupe that most likely weighed over 3000 lbs.

Hardly GT by any measure...the Corvette and 911 both weigh over 3000 pounds...a very unsuitable measurement of a GT car, if you ask me.

Fine then, maybe weight isn't the best measurement, but size certainly is and there is no debating the fact that the M6 was a large coupe. Don't get me wrong, I like the M6, it was one of my favorite cars for a long time. But, I don't think it is what Raza is looking for.

It was a large coupe, but was one of the fastest and best handling cars around in the mid 80s.  Sure, it could seat you in comfort, but that isnt the only mark of a GT car.  The M6 was quite the sporty car.

If it has a back seat it is a grand tourer and the M6 had a back seat.

[Raghavan]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

Yes it was, it was a large coupe that most likely weighed over 3000 lbs.

Hardly GT by any measure...the Corvette and 911 both weigh over 3000 pounds...a very unsuitable measurement of a GT car, if you ask me.

Fine then, maybe weight isn't the best measurement, but size certainly is and there is no debating the fact that the M6 was a large coupe. Don't get me wrong, I like the M6, it was one of my favorite cars for a long time. But, I don't think it is what Raza is looking for.

It was a large coupe, but was one of the fastest and best handling cars around in the mid 80s.  Sure, it could seat you in comfort, but that isnt the only mark of a GT car.  The M6 was quite the sporty car.

If it has a back seat it is a grand tourer and the M6 had a back seat.

so a 911 Turbo is a grand tourer?

[TBR]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

Yes it was, it was a large coupe that most likely weighed over 3000 lbs.

Hardly GT by any measure...the Corvette and 911 both weigh over 3000 pounds...a very unsuitable measurement of a GT car, if you ask me.

Fine then, maybe weight isn't the best measurement, but size certainly is and there is no debating the fact that the M6 was a large coupe. Don't get me wrong, I like the M6, it was one of my favorite cars for a long time. But, I don't think it is what Raza is looking for.

It was a large coupe, but was one of the fastest and best handling cars around in the mid 80s.  Sure, it could seat you in comfort, but that isnt the only mark of a GT car.  The M6 was quite the sporty car.

If it has a back seat it is a grand tourer and the M6 had a back seat.

so a 911 Turbo is a grand tourer?

Actually, it is.  

[Raghavan]

Raza wants a fun car, not a grand tourer.

The M6 was NOT a Grand Tourer!   :o

Yes it was, it was a large coupe that most likely weighed over 3000 lbs.

Hardly GT by any measure...the Corvette and 911 both weigh over 3000 pounds...a very unsuitable measurement of a GT car, if you ask me.

Fine then, maybe weight isn't the best measurement, but size certainly is and there is no debating the fact that the M6 was a large coupe. Don't get me wrong, I like the M6, it was one of my favorite cars for a long time. But, I don't think it is what Raza is looking for.

It was a large coupe, but was one of the fastest and best handling cars around in the mid 80s.  Sure, it could seat you in comfort, but that isnt the only mark of a GT car.  The M6 was quite the sporty car.

If it has a back seat it is a grand tourer and the M6 had a back seat.

so a 911 Turbo is a grand tourer?

Actually, it is.

well, i never thought it was. :shrugs:

[TBR]

The fact that it has AWD almost makes it an automatic GT, the GT2 on the otherhand are definitely a sports car, as is the regular Carrera and Carrera S. What I should have said is that if a car has a useable backseat it is automatically a GT.

[Raghavan]

The fact that it has AWD almost makes it an automatic GT, the GT2 on the otherhand are definitely a sports car, as is the regular Carrera and Carrera S. What I should have said is that if a car has a useable backseat it is automatically a GT.

AWD doesn't make it a GT. A lamborghini Murcielago has AWD, and there's no way that thing's a GT. a bit heavy, but it's a supercar, not a GT.

[TBR]

The fact that it has AWD almost makes it an automatic GT, the GT2 on the otherhand are definitely a sports car, as is the regular Carrera and Carrera S. What I should have said is that if a car has a useable backseat it is automatically a GT.

AWD doesn't make it a GT. A lamborghini Murcielago has AWD, and there's no way that thing's a GT. a bit heavy, but it's a supercar, not a GT.

It is both a supercar (because of its price) and a GT (because of its drive configuration and massive weight).  

[Raghavan]

The fact that it has AWD almost makes it an automatic GT, the GT2 on the otherhand are definitely a sports car, as is the regular Carrera and Carrera S. What I should have said is that if a car has a useable backseat it is automatically a GT.

AWD doesn't make it a GT. A lamborghini Murcielago has AWD, and there's no way that thing's a GT. a bit heavy, but it's a supercar, not a GT.

It is both a supercar (because of its price) and a GT (because of its drive configuration and massive weight).

drive configuration doesn't mean it's a GT at all. Does that mean that a base 911 is a sports car while the much faster and better handling AWD Turbo is a GT? your view of GT cars doesn't make sense.

[TBR]

The fact that it has AWD almost makes it an automatic GT, the GT2 on the otherhand are definitely a sports car, as is the regular Carrera and Carrera S. What I should have said is that if a car has a useable backseat it is automatically a GT.

AWD doesn't make it a GT. A lamborghini Murcielago has AWD, and there's no way that thing's a GT. a bit heavy, but it's a supercar, not a GT.

It is both a supercar (because of its price) and a GT (because of its drive configuration and massive weight).

drive configuration doesn't mean it's a GT at all. Does that mean that a base 911 is a sports car while the much faster and better handling AWD Turbo is a GT? your view of GT cars doesn't make sense.

IMHO AWD makes a car a GT car because it doesn't improve the way it drives and adds weight. It may make it faster, but it doesn't make it feel better.

[Raghavan]

The fact that it has AWD almost makes it an automatic GT, the GT2 on the otherhand are definitely a sports car, as is the regular Carrera and Carrera S. What I should have said is that if a car has a useable backseat it is automatically a GT.

AWD doesn't make it a GT. A lamborghini Murcielago has AWD, and there's no way that thing's a GT. a bit heavy, but it's a supercar, not a GT.

It is both a supercar (because of its price) and a GT (because of its drive configuration and massive weight).

drive configuration doesn't mean it's a GT at all. Does that mean that a base 911 is a sports car while the much faster and better handling AWD Turbo is a GT? your view of GT cars doesn't make sense.

IMHO AWD makes a car a GT car because it doesn't improve the way it drives and adds weight. It may make it faster, but it doesn't make it feel better.

it may add weight, but even with AWD, there are some cars with awesome performance, and i think it's not fair to call them GT cars, while their performance may exceed an RWD car.

[TBR]

If it is a case where a car has so much power that it can't get it to the pavement without AWD that would be one thing, but that certainly isn't the case with the 911 Turbo.  

[BMWDave]

If it is a case where a car has so much power that it can't get it to the pavement without AWD that would be one thing, but that certainly isn't the case with the 911 Turbo.

You can always get the GT2-no AWD :P