The Official Mustang Thread

[12,000 RPM]

Just looks confusing to me.

It's a Pony car but has no manual.

It's an ultra high power car but has a governor.

It's a track monster but why what with the GT350R already out there.

If you're scared, just say you're scared. There's no need to play ring around the rosie. You have constantly dumped on the Rustang for losing to the Camaro in the bench racing wars. Now Ford has out-Alphad the Camaro with the biggest dick, but you refuse to lay down in accordance with the rules you yourself laid out. There's nothing confusing about it

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

If you're scared, just say you're scared. There's no need to play ring around the rosie. You have constantly dumped on the Rustang for losing to the Camaro in the bench racing wars. Now Ford has out-Alphad the Camaro with the biggest dick, but you refuse to lay down in accordance with the rules you yourself laid out. There's nothing confusing about it

LOL @ Biggest dick! Lord only knows where this horse Power battle will take us! I'm ready for the 7th Gen 'Maro! Hopefully it ditches the throwback stlying...

[12,000 RPM]

Maybe the 7th gen will bring back the style of the 3rd gen. That would actually be pretty cool and kind of make sense now that the Corvette is trying to be a Ferrari.

[FoMoJo]

Scared!?!?!? I'm TERRIFIED!!!! I'm terrified that the ZR1 will ONLY out lap it at VIR by 3 Seconds instead of 5!!!

Isn't this fun?  Time to go back to some old school Trans-Am racing.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Isn't this fun?  Time to go back to some old school Trans-Am racing.

[FoMoJo]

Some interesting info...https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/autossports/first-look-ford-ups-ante-in-street-muscle-race-with-new-gt500/ar-AAD94Q6?ocid=spartandhp

Didn't know this and not sure if it's true...

Ford has confirmed its 2020 Mustang Shelby GT500 will be the most powerful street-legal car it has ever produced. The GT500 will be powered by a supercharged 5.2-litre, flat-crank V-8 that kicks out 760 horsepower and 625 lb-ft of torque, which, Ford says, makes this engine the most power- and torque-dense supercharged production V-8 in the world.

[CaminoRacer]

Which is their way of saying that they couldn't best the Demon. Had to go with power per liter instead.

[shp4man]

Speed kills! Play It Safe! Buy a Ford!     This old rivalry lives  on. 

[FoMoJo]

Which is their way of saying that they couldn't best the Demon. Had to go with power per liter instead.

Be honest, which one do you want?

[GoCougs]

Which is their way of saying that they couldn't best the Demon. Had to go with power per liter instead.

Oh, Ford. "Torque dense" is a nonsense metric. Chevy and Mopar supercharged V8s both produce more power and torque, and are physically smaller and less complicated motors to boot.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

Oh, Ford. "Torque dense" is a nonsense metric. Chevy and Mopar supercharged V8s both produce more power and torque, and are physically smaller and less complicated motors to boot.

[Gotta-Qik-C7]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28221315/2020-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-price/

[FoMoJo]

Predator...zero to 100 to zero in 10.6 seconds, they say.



Some pretty good info, and lots of pictures.

[Submariner]

Should have stuck that in the GT instead of the EcoBust.

[CaminoRacer]

Should have stuck that in the GT instead of the EcoBust.

+10

[FoMoJo]

Should have stuck that in the GT instead of the EcoBust.

Maybe gen. II, but the way things are going, it'll be a 1 litre EcoBoost with a bunch of batteries and electric motors stuck on.

[Xer0]

Maybe gen. II, but the way things are going, it'll be a 1 litre EcoBoost with a bunch of batteries and electric motors stuck on.

Wouldn't that be gen 4 

Side note, 06 GTs are going for almost 300K    That thing appreciated quick.

[SJ_GTI]

Wouldn't that be gen 4 

Side note, 06 GTs are going for almost 300K    That thing appreciated quick.

Makes sense though. If you were offering me the old GT or the new GT for free, I would take the old one every single time.

[Payman]

Spot on. To me a V6 is a compromise engine. It's what you stick in a Grand Am to get ok power and ok mileage in an ok car for ok money. Hell, the lowest class of racecar at the local track is the V6 "Stinger" $500 claimer class, which slots below the Comp-4 (4 cyl) class. Ever since the Dino in the early '70s, a V6 sportscar was the welfare child of the lineup. Ferrari didn't even want its badge on it.  Then Jaguar royally fucks up by putting a V6 in its XJ220 supercar, and people couldn't cancel their orders fast enough.  The GT of '04-'06 is the one everyone wants, because it has a proper V8 and it's properly fantastic looking. Doug DeMuro bought one claiming it's the best driving car of all time, and I believe it.  The new GT has some cool styling elements; the flying buttresses from roof to fender is neat, but it looks awkward in side profile.  Not that I could ever afford one, but I have no desire to own one even if I could.  I'd rather someone give me a prior gen GT worth $300k than a new one worth $500k, as mentioned.  Ford should have gone with the Voodoo V8, boosted to 650+ hp, rather than a goddamn overboosted V6.  I don't care how much power it puts out.

[Xer0]

Makes sense though. If you were offering me the old GT or the new GT for free, I would take the old one every single time.

I would too, I just remember only a couple years ago how this car was still kinda "affordable" for what it is and people were saying itll start appreciating quick.  Looks like thats totally the case!

[FoMoJo]

Wouldn't that be gen 4 

Side note, 06 GTs are going for almost 300K    That thing appreciated quick.

True.

[FoMoJo]

Makes sense though. If you were offering me the old GT or the new GT for free, I would take the old one every single time.

It was a disappointment that they went with the V6, but it got the job done.  They woulda had to develop a different V8 to go with that package.

[12,000 RPM]

Spot on. To me a V6 is a compromise engine. It's what you stick in a Grand Am to get ok power and ok mileage in an ok car for ok money. Hell, the lowest class of racecar at the local track is the V6 "Stinger" $500 claimer class, which slots below the Comp-4 (4 cyl) class. Ever since the Dino in the early '70s, a V6 sportscar was the welfare child of the lineup. Ferrari didn't even want its badge on it.  Then Jaguar royally fucks up by putting a V6 in its XJ220 supercar, and people couldn't cancel their orders fast enough.  The GT of '04-'06 is the one everyone wants, because it has a proper V8 and it's properly fantastic looking. Doug DeMuro bought one claiming it's the best driving car of all time, and I believe it.  The new GT has some cool styling elements; the flying buttresses from roof to fender is neat, but it looks awkward in side profile.  Not that I could ever afford one, but I have no desire to own one even if I could.  I'd rather someone give me a prior gen GT worth $300k than a new one worth $500k, as mentioned.  Ford should have gone with the Voodoo V8, boosted to 650+ hp, rather than a goddamn overboosted V6.  I don't care how much power it puts out.

V6s can be sweet

https://youtu.be/GskvzpmBhNo?t=18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL-nR_b0YPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZDKnX7gWaY

[Eye of the Tiger]

V6s can be sweet

https://youtu.be/GskvzpmBhNo?t=18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL-nR_b0YPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZDKnX7gWaY

Meh. That Lotus sounds like a Camry, and that Z sounds like an Altima. 

[MX793]

Spot on. To me a V6 is a compromise engine. It's what you stick in a Grand Am to get ok power and ok mileage in an ok car for ok money. Hell, the lowest class of racecar at the local track is the V6 "Stinger" $500 claimer class, which slots below the Comp-4 (4 cyl) class. Ever since the Dino in the early '70s, a V6 sportscar was the welfare child of the lineup. Ferrari didn't even want its badge on it.  Then Jaguar royally fucks up by putting a V6 in its XJ220 supercar, and people couldn't cancel their orders fast enough.  The GT of '04-'06 is the one everyone wants, because it has a proper V8 and it's properly fantastic looking. Doug DeMuro bought one claiming it's the best driving car of all time, and I believe it.  The new GT has some cool styling elements; the flying buttresses from roof to fender is neat, but it looks awkward in side profile.  Not that I could ever afford one, but I have no desire to own one even if I could.  I'd rather someone give me a prior gen GT worth $300k than a new one worth $500k, as mentioned.  Ford should have gone with the Voodoo V8, boosted to 650+ hp, rather than a goddamn overboosted V6.  I don't care how much power it puts out.

I would point out that the number of cylinders is not why the Dino was badged as a Dino rather than Ferrari (there were Dino branded cars with V8s as well).  It was where the engine was placed.  Old Enzo was very much against mid-engine cars, especially road cars.  All of the early, mid-engine Ferraris, including the 308, wore Dino badging until 1976.

The other factor was that the Dino line was lower priced, aimed at Porsche, and Enzo didn't want to cheapen the Ferrari brand with lower end cars priced in Porsche territory.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Formula 1 has been running V6 engines since 2014. Welfare junk.

[12,000 RPM]

Meh. That Lotus sounds like a Camry, and that Z sounds like an Altima. 

The GT-R I drove sounded like an Altima

Z sounds like demon Chewbacca

Anything that revs to 8 with 6 or more cylinders is OK with me

[Payman]

I would point out that the number of cylinders is not why the Dino was badged as a Dino rather than Ferrari (there were Dino branded cars with V8s as well).  It was where the engine was placed.  Old Enzo was very much against mid-engine cars, especially road cars.  All of the early, mid-engine Ferraris, including the 308, wore Dino badging until 1976.

The other factor was that the Dino line was lower priced, aimed at Porsche, and Enzo didn't want to cheapen the Ferrari brand with lower end cars priced in Porsche territory.

Yeah ok, I didn't want to go that deep into it, but my point still stands.

[Eye of the Tiger]

The GT-R I drove sounded like an Altima

Z sounds like demon Chewbacca

Anything that revs to 8 with 6 or more cylinders is OK with me

Corvettes sound like Camaros which sound like Silverados. Everything sucks.

[FoMoJo]

Corvettes sound like Camaros which sound like Silverados. Everything sucks.

What a V8 should sound like...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2RxRn2lZaw