I've had a weird squeak I assumed was brakes but maybe wheel bearing for a while, but Saturday it turned into a GRIND when pushing the brakes.
Took it to local Firestone to diagnose, they want $2100 to replace front and rear struts/shocks, bushings in the front, rear brakes & rotors, $90 to replace brake fluid (with labor), alignment, and 2 rear tires (I don't rotate like I should, they were on front until a month ago, they're at 5/32).
:hammerhead:
I'll do brakes myself Saturday and look for the "seeping" of the front strut and examine the control arm bushings.
lol they tried to get u good
How many miles on the vehicle?
Bah, give everything a good wiggle while it's off the ground and you're good to go.
Firestone tried to tell me I had low coolant because they started my old Yaris cold and the "cold engine" low temp light came on.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on November 27, 2017, 01:19:39 PM
lol they tried to get u good
inorite?
Quote from: shp4man on November 27, 2017, 02:57:58 PM
How many miles on the vehicle?
215000ish.
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 27, 2017, 03:50:46 PM
Bah, give everything a good wiggle while it's off the ground and you're good to go.
perfect, thanks!
Quote from: 2o6 on November 27, 2017, 06:34:19 PM
Firestone tried to tell me I had low coolant because they started my old Yaris cold and the "cold engine" low temp light came on.
LOL
Bought cheap rotors and best AutoZone pads, plus jackstands and a bottle jack. Under $200, now I can do it in the garage at my leisure. Firestone wanted $320 just for the brake job.
Got the van lifted and caliper off at lunch.
Cheap bottle jack I bought doesn't go very high. :facepalm:
Had to lift van as much as the jack would go, put a jackstand (wheel was still on ground), lower the jack and put a couple 2x4 pieces under it, and lift the car higher to raise the jackstand up. Wheel was off the ground though.
I need to buy a couple bolts to force the rotor off, I'm sure it's rusted solid on there.
Time to get that new Flex ;).
Quote from: FoMoJo on November 30, 2017, 02:29:27 PM
Time to get that new Flex ;).
LOL Nope. Paying $1500/month in child support and we love the no-debt life. Odyssey is going great (knock on wood).
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 30, 2017, 02:52:20 PM
LOL Nope. Paying $1500/month in child support and we love the no-debt life. Odyssey is going great (knock on wood).
Do you have any kind of a service manual?
Quote from: shp4man on November 30, 2017, 04:04:20 PM
Do you have any kind of a service manual?
just the internet. :)
Well, you won't like this, but with 215K miles, $2100 is probably cheap. Just sayin'
Quote from: shp4man on November 30, 2017, 04:34:32 PM
Well, you won't like this, but with 215K miles, $2100 is probably cheap. Just sayin'
nah, they wanted $90 to replace the brake fluid. New tires on the rear. (They have less than 1 or 2 years and 5/32.)
a year and a half ago they wanted to put new belts on impreza. Still fine on the old ones.
Sigh. Put bolts on to push the rusted rotors off and cracked the rotor instead.
What next? Hopefully not this
https://handycrowd.com/remove-rusted-seized-brake-discs-honda-crv/
Aren't you replacing the rotor? NBD if it's cracked.
Get some WD-40 rust release spray (NOT regular WD-40), spray it liberally on the crack between the rotor and the hub. Let it soak for a while. Use a mallet and hit the back side, maybe hit it perpendicular on the edge as well, to try to knock the corrosion off.
If that doesn't work, try heating it up. You have a propane torch or anything? Maybe steal a flamethrower from your workplace. Or Harbor Freight sells little butane torches for cheap. Idk if those will get it hot enough, but it might be worth a try.
When you put the new rotors on, apply anti-seize around the center of the rotor - anything that touches the hub behind it. I also put some anti-seize on the front side when I did the brakes on the Mazda last week, since one of the wheels had gotten stuck on.
Thanks. I'll get some spray and let them both soak awhile.
Sprayed some Blaster last night, banged on it a bit this morning, still nothing. I sprayed some more and rotated the wheel then sprayed more and rotated so it hopefully spreads out more, will try in a couple hours or might go rent a puller from autozone.
And I'm now the proud owner of a 3lb sledge. :mrcool:
Quote from: shp4man on November 30, 2017, 04:34:32 PM
Well, you won't like this, but with 215K miles, $2100 is probably cheap. Just sayin'
Yup
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on December 02, 2017, 07:09:54 AM
Sprayed some Blaster last night, banged on it a bit this morning, still nothing. I sprayed some more and rotated the wheel then sprayed more and rotated so it hopefully spreads out more, will try in a couple hours or might go rent a puller from autozone.
And I'm now the proud owner of a 3lb sledge. :mrcool:
You might have a couple thousands dollars of new tools by the time you're done. :huh:
If you rockauto the parts, and go to an indie shop, you can prolly cut down on Labor, but to be honest at 215K that's not a terrible price for that service.
So I'm an idiot. There are two little screws with Phillips head that keep the rotor on the hub. Took them off and one more bang with my new trusty sledge and the rotor cake right off.
Got the rest of the job done and back together in about an hour. (Had to help wife some, she's steaming the aftermarket tint off the Impreza door Windows because stupid NY laws... Safety inspection is a month overdue :mask: )
now the OTHER side rear brakes need done.
I just got the van jacked, wheel off, sprayed the screws and through the holes in the rotor to loosen it up some.
Yes it would be nicer to just take it to a shop, but learning the skills and accumulating the tools is nice to just do it in my own garage in the future.
BTW yes it had 215k miles, we bought it at 168k in spring 2015. Former owner literally took it to the dealer for EVERYTHING. Even oil changes. Interior looked so pristine! Said they just took it on road trips.
Quote from: 2o6 on December 02, 2017, 09:24:35 AM
If you rockauto the parts, and go to an indie shop, you can prolly cut down on Labor, but to be honest at 215K that's not a terrible price for that service.
Yeah but this shop recommends stuff that isn't even close to necessary.
Quote from: FoMoJo on December 02, 2017, 08:18:54 AM
You might have a couple thousands dollars of new tools by the time you're done. :huh:
:lol: sweet!
Did you put the screws back in the new rotor? Most don't bother. They're mostly there for initial assembly in the factory.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 02, 2017, 01:27:54 PM
Did you put the screws back in the new rotor? Most don't bother. They're mostly there for initial assembly in the factory.
That's what I figure- keeps the rotors on while they go down the line, making it easier to build later.
Yes I put them back. :facepalm:
idiot move #2
Got passenger side all done, started driver side, got it all apart better than the first side (said screws were very hard to get out, (first set were super easy). I sprayed with blaster, banged with a hammer (they're sunk in flush with the face of the rotor), finally I used the bolts to push the disc out from the hub a bit and they screwed right out.
Then i go to put the pads on and realize both of them have an extra clippy thingey on them which neither on the other side had. So I should have put one clippy thingey on each wheel. :facepalm:
Had to jack passenger side back up onto jackstand, take wheel off, just swing the pad holder down and took the pad off, putting it all back together was way faster the 2nd time. :lol: And putting the driver side all back together was even faster.
Finished drive side
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4536/37909052855_30bb0c30c9_k.jpg)
and work area. The light is an LED table lamp I bought to put on our piano but it's too bright. We put it on a nightstand in the bedroom and point it at the wall and just use the reflected light LOL. The orange tape on the floor was there when we moved in.
((The yellow glow is a cheap "outdoor wireless speaker set for outdoors entertaining" which works really well for stuff like this. Sync BT to phone, and there are 2 extra speakers which sync to the base unit and you don't have to turn it up loud to get sound in a wide area. They have silly candle effects.))
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4530/37909052215_a536a9cc29_k.jpg)
Oh as far as tools all we bought were the sledge and blaster spray. And pads/rotors (came with clips and grease).
I already had sockets, (3/8in and 1/2in) and breaker bars for both (1-2ft pipes from home depot), screwdrivers, pliers, wire clippers & wire coat hanger (for holding caliper assembly while replacing rotor)...
Yeah, the screws can be hard to remove & strip easily since they're phillips. That's why most people don't put them in. :lol:
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 02, 2017, 05:57:17 PM
Yeah, the screws can be hard to remove & strip easily since they're phillips. That's why most people don't put them in. :lol:
There's really no point but my wife worries. :huh: I read people end up having to drill them or dremel tool them out. But really the spray along with pushing the rotor away from the hub made it quick.
I was REALLY surprised that they were strong enough to withstand the pressure I was putting on the first rotor. That rotor got cracked BAD as I was pulling it off with the two bolt method.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on December 02, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
So I'm an idiot. There are two little screws with Phillips head that keep the rotor on the hub. Took them off and one more bang with my new trusty sledge and the rotor cake right off.
Got the rest of the job done and back together in about an hour. (Had to help wife some, she's steaming the aftermarket tint off the Impreza door Windows because stupid NY laws... Safety inspection is a month overdue :mask: )
now the OTHER side rear brakes need done.
I just got the van jacked, wheel off, sprayed the screws and through the holes in the rotor to loosen it up some.
Yes it would be nicer to just take it to a shop, but learning the skills and accumulating the tools is nice to just do it in my own garage in the future.
BTW yes it had 215k miles, we bought it at 168k in spring 2015. Former owner literally took it to the dealer for EVERYTHING. Even oil changes. Interior looked so pristine! Said they just took it on road trips.
Yeah, those screws are on all Hondas afaik.
Guess who is the proud owner of a new reciprocating saw???
Changing worn-out sway bar end links, the bolts & nuts were really rusted. The first side was just ridiculous, sprayed with blaster then tried to get the allen key (in the end of the shaft) and nut to come off but no dice. Put a wrench on what seems like it should have been to hold it still to get the nut off, it just spun some after moving where the shaft was sitting. Internet says people regularly cut these things off....
So $50 for a saw and the first side was off.
Second side I'd sprayed with blaster before lunch and I actually broke the nut free and was hoping to just get it off with a wrench but it got stuck on all the rust. LESSON LEARNED: I should have taken the dremel with wire brush to it.
So that one got sawed off too, only I learned from the first one to work the bottom end first. Less room to work and 1st one kept moving around so the saw couldn't get to it so I rigged a plumber pliers (wide wide jaw) with a vicegrip holding them shut tight... :mask:
Second one was so much faster to cut. Craziness!
Welcome to rust. Virtually every job you do will include this much funness.
Lol yup. That's why I'm thinking about building a brand new Factory Five car as my next project.
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 18, 2018, 07:31:04 AM
Welcome to rust. Virtually every job you do will include this much funness.
I know, it's just been a long time since I've really wrenched on anything. Should have known better.
I started on an 11yr old Taurus. :mask:
Torch that sucker
(Not right after PB blaster, I'd give it some time...unless you want to light your car on fire)
Quote from: SVT_Power on March 19, 2018, 09:14:38 AM
Torch that sucker
That's possibly my next tool purchase :rockon:
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on March 19, 2018, 09:27:28 AM
That's possibly my next tool purchase :rockon:
10/10 would recommend.
Steering shimmy was a way bad tire. It had a couple of gouges an inch away from the rim on the (vehicle) inside sidewall. Went to get the tires balanced as I rotated them and guy saw it right away.
Shouldn't have passed safety inspection last month :mask: and thankfully it never blew out :mask: :mask:
Odyssey now has 218680 miles and 2 new tires on the rear. Got 80k mile Goodyear M&S all-seasons.
Tire compounds are crazy. 80k miles...I wonder how many rotations that is. But I'm too lazy for maths.
Quote from: giant_mtb on March 22, 2018, 03:16:35 PM
Tire compounds are crazy. 80k miles...I wonder how many rotations that is. But I'm too lazy for maths.
the 65k tires were a little less.
I don't rotate them anywhere near enough..... :mask:
I started to worry some about the timing belt in Odyssey. We rolled 123k miles last month. So made an appointment, but it was going to be after our Wyoming trip.
Last Saturday we returned from two week trip from the airport and the van was making a severe shaking and low Woob woob woob sound when braking. Got out, looked, nothing was seriously wrong, just figured it was brakes.
Took it in Tuesday for timing belt, and weird power steering noise, and asked them to look at the rear.
They said the rotor is warped (weird, it's old but it was fine before vacation). Motor mount was bad, replaced that. Out the door it was $1530 with taxes for t-belt, serpentine belts, waterpump, motor mount, coolant flush & replacement.
I get in the van and get up on the freeway and the oil light started blinking. I immediately pulled over (still on the on-ramp), shutoff engine and called them, they said to bring it back in. I check the dipstick, it's bone dry. I was panicked, didn't want to blow up the motor. Did the illegal u-turn, went back to service. Checked again, dipstick is bone dry. Light hadn't come on again.
They and I wondered how it was empty, it had been fine last time I checked (can't remember how long honestly, months?) I know it probably leaks a little and burns a little bit but this felt crazy. They gave me 5 qts free of synthetic blend. I put 2 in and check dipstick, it's fine. :confused: Took 3 qts back in, all just very weird.
I've priced out the parts and it will be $140+ taxes for rear brakes with better pads at Autozone. They wanted $320 total for the brakes. Yay saturday!
(Last time I changed fronts, so hopefully I learned my lessons.)
I posted pics on the FB group, when I changed the oil today the bolt just spun. Pulled it back out and it brought some oil pan threads with it.
I am NOT a He-Man, so I doubt it has been I that cranked it down.
Ended up throwing some weird plug in to hold it till the Goodyear can get the pan in and replace it for me. The nuts holding the cat converter on look like a solid piece of rust. No thank you on getting the bolts holding the y-pipe to the engine off. They're way up inside a bunch of crap. Well worth the $350 to have the garage do it all.
Lol Goodyear said it was way harder than it's supposed to be. Only an hour and a half in the book. He'll have to comp the mechanic a couple hours of work...
Um, yeah, 15yr old exhaust removal. No thanks! $380 after taxes.
There is a point at which continuing to repair a vehicle is no longer cost effective. We call it "End of service life".
Or Ecology Auto wrecking... :lol:
Quote from: shp4man on October 05, 2018, 07:45:30 AM
There is a point at which continuing to repair a vehicle is no longer cost effective. We call it "End of service life".
Or Ecology Auto wrecking... :lol:
True but we're not there yet.
I think a big difference was the first owner took it to the dealer for everything, on good schedule. Also it wasn't torn up inside so little has broken or worn out.
We'll roll 229k tomorrow and I'd drive it to Wyoming right now if we had time and gas money....
Sounds like the van is groaning when turning the wheels.
Power steering pump? Or rack?
https://youtu.be/N5gOawlFADk
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 02, 2019, 05:20:52 PM
Sounds like the van is groaning when turning the wheels.
Power steering pump? Or rack?
If its groaning, and not whining, and if its doing it when its cold and stopping later, it might be water in the fluid.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 02, 2019, 06:31:41 PM
If its groaning, and not whining, and if its doing it when its cold and stopping later, it might be water in the fluid.
We have a winner!!!
Found a good local shop right away- over the phone I start talking with them, he says it's usually not the pump but air or leaky hose. They found 2 bad o-rings right at the pump, replaced them, flushed the lines and reservoir. Good as new!
ALSO, last week the passenger side power sliding door got totally stuck. I had to turn off the power feature and man-handle it to close it. I remembered reading a long long time ago that the roller (wheel) right under the windows is plastic and eventually they break. So I had the shop look at that too. Sure enough, roller needed replacement.
Called last Wednesday, said they were busy until Monday. Dropped it off at 8am and it was DONE at 2pm!!!! Amazing!!!
Almost $600 after taxes.
Heater blower now has an annoying
faint click that goes in time with speed of motor. :(
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on November 07, 2019, 07:16:58 AM
Heater blower now has an annoying
faint click that goes in time with speed of motor. :(
That's always annoying. Hopefully just a little chunk of something that will break loose at some point. Or wear away.
Leaves, or mouse bones.
hahaha Reason why is in the Impreza thread, but we just wired $12,500 for a 2012 Honda Odyssey.
Gloss Black Pearl over tan leather, EX-L trim. Has SUNROOF!, backup cam, BT, sat radio, dual A/C, rear (digital) A/C, OEM DVD player with RCA inputs and 110v power, aftermarket rubber mats throughout (not the nice weathertech brand though). We also now get upgraded from our current van= power rear liftgate, roll-down 2nd row windows, a "cool box" glove box below the radio stack, giant removable center console between front seats, and an extra seat in the 2nd row. The 3rd row is 60/40 split so it's easier to get up and down than our 2003 (which is still a remnant of the 1st generation of "magic seat", it really takes two hands to lift the entire thing up!)
76,xxx miles. 2nd owner, who just bought it a year and a half ago but they are moving to Germany then possibly Romania after and didn't want to stick out as Americans so much so they bought a VW Atlas to take instead. It has some damage on Carfax- in 2018 a storm blew a neighbor's tree limb off the tree and into their yard, broke the windshield, hit the hood hard enough to replace it, plus scratches on both front fenders were fixed. It has a little bit of scratch on a door we'll want to paint, like a shopping cart side-swiped it or something, and it's kinda dirty inside (family with young kids).
If all goes well we should drive it home tomorrow, then figure out if we sell "Sandy" or "Red".
Why would they take a VW Atlas to Europe? That model isn't sold there.
Quote from: 2o6 on January 28, 2020, 10:39:12 AM
Why would they take a VW Atlas to Europe? That model isn't sold there.
Because they're service members, get the car shipped free, and went to the VW dealership because they think of it as a German company.
They didn't actually research anything.
Awesome man, those are very very nice cars. Congratulations
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 28, 2020, 11:06:51 AM
Because they're service members, get the car shipped free, and went to the VW dealership because they think of it as a German company.
They didn't actually research anything.
Pretty much. Which surprises me, based on he being a Major and his job seems fairly detail oriented.
Quote from: CALL_911 on January 28, 2020, 12:51:38 PM
Awesome man, those are very very nice cars. Congratulations
Thanks!
"Puma". It has some scratches we need to touchup.
Skimmed through the owner manual tonight, need to go sync some phones and load some CDs into the "CD library"....
Looks good. Black is a better colour for it.
Quote from: FoMoJo on January 29, 2020, 06:28:05 PM
Looks good. Black is a better colour for it.
I just hope it stays clean- I've washed my car maybe 5 times the last 5 years???....
This van needs some TLC, it's got some nasty big scratches on both sides.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on January 30, 2020, 06:01:44 PM
I just hope it stays clean- I've washed my car maybe 5 times the last 5 years???....
This van needs some TLC, it's got some nasty big scratches on both sides.
The need to constantly wash black colored cars I don't buy. I washed my black beetle in the three years I owned it maybe three times. Sure it looked awesome and sparkled when it was washed but the rest of the time it looked fine too. No one ever fingerprinted "wash me" on my car. In the winter I even appreciated it's dusty look patina.
Quote from: veeman on January 31, 2020, 10:11:28 AM
In the winter I even appreciated it's dusty look patina.
:lol:
Realized we don't have headphones for the DVD player. Some knockoffs are under $20 each, and there are wire headphone jacks in the 3rd row. I forgot all about the weird "infrared wireless headphones" (I bought a DVD for the Toyota van I had 2009-divorce (2013))...
Aaaaand rear tire was losing air. Stupid nail, always too close to the sidewall to plug. :cry:
Turns out that was a "Douglas" brand tire when the others were Cooper grand touring CS5 something or others.
Now they all match but that one tire has a bit of tread more than the others. :confused: Not super lots. Just a bit.