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Title: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 12:41:43 PM
I've always told myself I would never part with the 2007 BMW 118i after owning it for so long. My sister spec'd and ordered this car before she suddenly was moved abroad for work - and thus I took over the car from her. It was registered in my name and I became its new owner.

The 118i... a naturally aspirated 2.0 inline-4, 143-horsepower and 190 Nm (torque), 6-Speed Automatic, 50:50 weight balance RWD compact car - second lowest engine option in the E87 range. It's not the fastest, the engine is nothing special and at speeds above 160 km/h it's a little gutless. Nevertheless I held on to it because IT IS JUST SO MUCH GOD DAMN FUN TO DRIVE. In fact I just came back from a 200 km trip in the rain featuring a mix of Autobahn and country roads - the car was fun in all conditions, and in the wet the back likes to slide out if you push it hard! I've grown to like that, a little!  :tounge:

Seriously. Those 1ers were pretty tossable. And fun. They really are. Did I mention they're FUN? I feel quite guilty for wanting a new car when there's nothing wrong with this one! But the BMW is 11-years old and while there is mechanically nothing wrong with it (except for a broken thermostat) I find myself wanting something different. After 220,000 km and a lot of good memories, I am lusting for something different, something edgier in terms of style and of course something from one of my favorite automotive brands.



And so I am taking the plunge! I'm ordering the 2018 Mercedes-Benz A250 AMG Line!  :wub:

(https://s22.postimg.cc/w78z3k4qp/WAClass_14.jpg)



The new A-Class is a little wider and a little longer than the 1er but has more interior space. It will fit into my small parking spot in Munich while being able to carry my gear. The car I am ordering is the A250 - this is a little rocket, essentially a hot hatch! The interior is roomy and ergonomic. I feel right at home in this car.

Yesterday I had a short drive in an A180d (diesel) with a salesman, and I liked the general feel of the car. Great steering feedback, sporty base suspension, excellent 7-DCT transmission but the standard seats were not that impressive. Overall, a good car. That diesel engine was not bad, a little buzzy and surprisingly the salesman told me that many people are still buying diesels.

The A250 features a Mercedes-Benz (not Nissan-Renault) turbocharged 224-horsepower 2.0-l inline-4 powering the front wheels coupled to Mercedes' excellent 7-DCT Dual Clutch Automatic Transmission. 0-62 mph in 6.2 seconds, and a top speed of 250 km/h (electronically limited). These are not bad specs at all! Can't wait to blast down the Autobahn at 250 km/h! Hell, if I am really insane I'll pay to have the limiter removed!  :lol:

Initially I was considering an A200 with the 163-horsepower 1.33-l Nissan-Renault engine but I figured what the hell, go for the A250 and get more power (which translates into more safety) and roughly the same (if not better) fuel consumption. 4Matic? Nope, don't need that. I am ok with FWD. The good news is that the new A-Class and certainly the A250 has a sophisticated limited slip differential which should improve the driving experience for a FWD car.

The AMG Line package is a must. The regular A-Class just doesn't look as complete as the ones with the AMG Line body kit. The AMG Line car will be lowered by 2cm's and receive a sporty AMG body kit, sportier suspension, AMG sports seats (which I love, so comfortable and so supportive!) and AMG wheels of my choice. Inside the AMG package means a choice of leather or Artico - an Alcantara-like MB-TEX mix. I am going for Artico. If I could have the AMG Line with cloth seats I'd go for that, as I am not a fan of leather. But if it's included and they still give you an option for MB-TEX Artico, then I am going for that...

Regarding features, I'm ordering the Night Package (dark mirrors and headlights), toned side and rear windows (so my photography gear won't be visible from outside), Park Assistent with 360 degree round view, heated seats and heated steering wheel, navigation and that's about it. I am skimping on the MB-UX ("Hi Mercedes, change the temperature...") and most of the infotainment features since I won't need or use that. The absence of some wacky features means the car is within my budget, and I may get a 9% discount because I am purchasing the car through and for my business. I don't want to lease because of the mileage restriction and because I plan on keeping this investment for 10+ years or more. And my metal tripods for my cameras or lights tend to scratch and damage cabin plastics (you should see the scratched plastics in the BMW trunk!) - it's a working and personal vehicle, so I want to buy it and determine what happens with it etc.

I'm also going to trade in the BMW for the Mercedes at the dealer. I was delighted to learn that despite the high mileage and some cosmetic damage on the plastic bumpers, my 2007 118i was just valued at a pretty respectable 6,500 Euros by the Dekra at Mercedes-Benz Munich; I was expecting much less because of some exterior and interior cosmetic damage from my equipment! BMW 1ers apparently hold their value pretty well. The automatic transmission, heated seats and sunroof also probably helped my car keep its value. Not bad for an 11-year old car that cost 25,000 Euros when new. Those 6,500 Euros will be subtracted from the purchasing price of the A250.

I'm still going through the options list and thinking long and hard what I need or want, but the exterior of my new car can be seen below in MB's online configurator! Once I place the order they'll need two months before the car can be delivered.

Model: A250 AMG Line (FWD)

Color: Polar White with Night Package

Wheels: 19" AMG LMR


I hope you like it as much as I do!!! Looking forward to your comments and feedback! :wub: :wub: :wub:

Oh yeah, and I definitely need AMG wheels for my winter wheels! Can't have an AMG body kitted A-Class driving around in the winter with some cheap plastic hubcaps or cheapo wheels!  :tounge:



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Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 21, 2018, 12:54:10 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 21, 2018, 01:47:21 PM
Congrats! I didn't know you cared about driving fun.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 2o6 on July 21, 2018, 03:09:13 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: shp4man on July 21, 2018, 03:21:52 PM
Nice looking car, Wimmer. The dash is like a '57 Lincoln but with digital components.  :lol: Not a bad thing.  :ohyeah:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5668075351_9f96d91e8d.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:06:47 PM
UPDATE! Just configured my interior!

AMG sports seats with MB-TEX Artico and Microfiber DINAMICA. DINAMICA is that soft but "rough" material in the middle where the occupants backs will sit. It's not as slippery as leather and should provide some support. Again, if cloth seats were available with the AMG Line I'd go for that. I'm more concerned about the exterior than interior!  :tounge:

I've also skimped on the ambient lighting feature that allows you to pick 64 colors. Seems like a gimmick to me, but at the same time it does make the interior look pretty cool. I just don't need it!

So behold, this is what my interior will look like.  ;)


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Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 21, 2018, 01:47:21 PM
Congrats! I didn't know you cared about driving fun.

Initially I didn't. But when you're driving "The Ultimate Driving Machine" for 11 years you kind of learn to appreciate it.  ;)

I will admit I will miss the RWD layout of the 1-Series, the feeling of being pushed rather than pulled, but that A180d was pretty fun and the salesman even encouraged me to hammer it; those diesels are torque monsters and there was no torque steer limited slip differential be blessed, I assume.

The A250 AMG Line (I must always say "Line" now because people will be like, "Hey, there is no A250 AMG! That's a fake/poseuer AMG!"  :lol: ) with the 2cm lowered AMG suspension should drive even better than that standard A180d.

I enjoyed the BMW, it's still a great car and I think the E87 was the last real BMW (naturally aspirated gasoline engines) - it could have some youngtimer potential, especially in 130i guise...
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 2o6 on July 21, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
I thought the 1series was your sister's car?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: shp4man on July 21, 2018, 03:21:52 PM
Nice looking car, Wimmer. The dash is like a '57 Lincoln but with digital components.  :lol: Not a bad thing.  :ohyeah:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5668075351_9f96d91e8d.jpg)

Hehe, you know how I love old cars!  :wub:

In a perfect world I'd have this A250 AMG Line as my daily driver, a 1972-1979 Mercedes-Benz W116 S-Class (the 450SEL 6.9 body style) as my pimp ride and a 1975-1985 Mercedes-Benz 230TE Wagon as my classic daily driver!  :praise:

And then I'd also have a Citroen SM as my gentleman car.  :wub:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:17:14 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on July 21, 2018, 04:15:24 PM
I thought the 1series was your sister's car?

It was. She bought it, barely drove it and I inherited it from her when she moved abroad to work. She didn't need a car in Switzerland because public transportation is excellent. So the ownership changed from her to me. It's now my car. ;)

Plus her boyfriend drives an Audi RS4 Avant and BMW X3, which she gets to drive from time to time. :lol:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on July 21, 2018, 04:20:16 PM
Nice. Enjoy it.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: FoMoJo on July 21, 2018, 04:22:10 PM
Nice looking little buggy.

White?  It's gonna be white?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:27:27 PM
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on July 21, 2018, 04:20:16 PM
Nice. Enjoy it.

Thank you! Will do.

And I'm gonna miss the BMW. I really will. It provided years of good service and was fun to drive. I'm always emotional when saying goodbye to my previous rides...

1992 Mitsubishi Galant GTI 2.0 DOHC 16V?  :cry:

1985 Mercedes-Benz 300SE W126?  :cry:

2007 BMW 118i E87 5-Door?  :cry:


Well, I will be enjoying the next two months of the BMW before trading it in for the A250 AMG Line.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 21, 2018, 04:22:10 PM
Nice looking little buggy.

White?  It's gonna be white?

Polar White with Night Package. Night Package means black side mirrors and darker toned windows and darker headlights. It also means dark wheels, which I deemed to aggressive so I replaced them with the 19" AMG LMR wheels!  :praise:

Here's what my car would look like if I didn't change the wheels.

(http://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/m/mercedes-benz/a_200_amg_line/mercedes-benz_a_200_amg_line_6.jpeg)



Red was also nice, but I thought it's too fancy and too "Look at me!". White is perfect; elegant and sporty with a touch of class.  ;)

(http://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/m/mercedes-benz/a_180_d_amg_line/mercedes-benz_a_180_d_amg_line_836.jpeg)


Matte gray is too aggressive. This is an Edition 1 model - that trim costs like 7,000+ Euros. Nah, I don't need that. Subtle AMG Line is perfect.

(http://i.wheelsage.org/pictures/m/mercedes-benz/a-klasse_amg_line_edition/mercedes-benz_a-klasse_amg_line_edition_5.jpeg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:36:41 PM
Oh, and MB offers you the option of having your Mercedes foil wrapped in some exotic colors. At the MB dealer in Munich they had one of these: a Lemon Sting A-Class. Too exotic for my tastes...

(https://blog.mercedes-benz-passion.com/wp-cb4ef-content/uploads/28033088_2113578295336088_462666929_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: FoMoJo on July 21, 2018, 04:37:16 PM
It's an excellent colour combination for it.  I'd keep the black wheels though.  Not only do they compliment the mirrors and the roof panel, they add a touch of elegance. 
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 21, 2018, 04:37:16 PM
It's an excellent colour combination for it.  I'd keep the black wheels though.  Not only do they compliment the mirrors and the roof panel, they add a touch of elegance. 

If I can get them for a discount they might make good winter wheels.  :lol:

I definitely want nicer wheels for winter duty this time. No more cheapo plastic hubcaps or steelies.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: FoMoJo on July 21, 2018, 04:47:43 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:40:32 PM
If I can get them for a discount they might make good winter wheels.  :lol:

I definitely want nicer wheels for winter duty this time. No more cheapo plastic hubcaps or steelies.
Our Discovery came with black chrome wheels, although I wouldn't have ordered it that way.  However, I now think they look much better than any light shiny wheel.  I've seen many more vehicles now with black wheels and most look excellent, depending on the colour.  I think you should give it some thought.  Are you getting the black roof?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 21, 2018, 04:47:43 PM
Our Discovery came with black chrome wheels, although I wouldn't have ordered it that way.  However, I now think they look much better than any light shiny wheel.  I've seen many more vehicles now with black wheels and most look excellent, depending on the colour.  I think you should give it some thought.

The reason I went with the silver AMG wheels is because of their design and because I thought the black wheelies are too aggressive and too "Boy Racerish"...  :tounge:



Quote from: FoMoJo on July 21, 2018, 04:47:43 PMAre you getting the black roof?

The black roof would be the Panoramic Sunroof. I didn't want one because I never use the sunroof in my BMW, and because it takes away a lot of headroom (about an inch and a half...). It's a 1,107 Euro option, but even with this option there's enough headroom for me, but without it there's more!  ;)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 21, 2018, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 21, 2018, 04:13:34 PM
Initially I didn't. But when you're driving "The Ultimate Driving Machine" for 11 years you kind of learn to appreciate it.  ;)

I will admit I will miss the RWD layout of the 1-Series, the feeling of being pushed rather than pulled, but that A180d was pretty fun and the salesman even encouraged me to hammer it; those diesels are torque monsters and there was no torque steer limited slip differential be blessed, I assume.

The A250 AMG Line (I must always say "Line" now because people will be like, "Hey, there is no A250 AMG! That's a fake/poseuer AMG!"  :lol: ) with the 2cm lowered AMG suspension should drive even better than that standard A180d.

I enjoyed the BMW, it's still a great car and I think the E87 was the last real BMW (naturally aspirated gasoline engines) - it could have some youngtimer potential, especially in 130i guise...
I think you will forget about the BMW in time. Turbo torque is addictive, especially in something so small.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Raza on July 21, 2018, 09:33:44 PM
Looks fucking sweet, man.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Laconian on July 21, 2018, 09:56:58 PM
That's a sweet car. Crisp lines, good rear end, doesn't look "melted" like the CLA et al. And 36mpg combined with 6.2s 0-60? That's remarkable. Have fun!
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: CaminoRacer on July 21, 2018, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: Laconian on July 21, 2018, 09:56:58 PM
And 36mpg combined with 6.2s 0-60? That's remarkable. Have fun!

Wow, yeah. Outruns most cars built before 2000 and almost doubles the gas mileage.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 02:24:35 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 21, 2018, 06:31:10 PM
I think you will forget about the BMW in time. Turbo torque is addictive, especially in something so small.

Indeed. Loved the torque surge on that A180d demonstrator. The A250 will be similar. Torque is addicting, and I am sure I will love the turbocharged engine. Finally some torque - something the BMW did kind of lack.  :tounge:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 02:24:49 AM
Quote from: Raza  on July 21, 2018, 09:33:44 PM
Looks fucking sweet, man.

:rockon:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 02:27:03 AM
Quote from: Laconian on July 21, 2018, 09:56:58 PM
That's a sweet car. Crisp lines, good rear end, doesn't look "melted" like the CLA et al. And 36mpg combined with 6.2s 0-60? That's remarkable. Have fun!

The performance is indeed sweet. You only live once, so treat yourself!  :praise:

I was also considering a used CLA Shooting Brake, even a used CLA45 AMG Shooting Brake. I kind of like the CLA, but I figured if I am gonna take the plunge I may as well get something new.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 02:28:24 AM
One more thing - I ticked the option SPORTY EXHAUST NOTE. It's free, so I figured, Why the hell not?  :praise:

I'm so turning into a Boy Racer...  :thumbsup:

When the car arrives I'm gonna share some videos of the engine note etc.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Submariner on July 22, 2018, 06:26:16 AM
Nice.  Congratulations. 

You've been MIA for a while.  Doing well?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: mzziaz on July 22, 2018, 07:27:40 AM
Congrats, Christian.


How much more expensive was a C-class?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: dazzleman on July 22, 2018, 08:45:43 AM
Quote from: Raza  on July 21, 2018, 09:33:44 PM
Looks fucking sweet, man.

:hesaid:

Congratulations Chris!  I hope you have a lot of fun in your new set of wheels.  I look forward to seeing the shots you take of the speedo with the needle way over on the right.  I really like the interior too.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: SJ_GTI on July 22, 2018, 08:59:25 AM
Congrats, looking forward to seeing the "real life" pics!  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Galaxy on July 22, 2018, 10:34:24 AM
The LED headlights may be worth a thought, as well as the adaptive distronic, even though they are expensive options.

What is the difference between the "digitalweiß" metallic white they have for the new A compared to the "diamantweiß" metallic white the other models have?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 93JC on July 22, 2018, 10:39:02 AM
One's digital, the other one made of diamonds.


Just kidding of course. "Digitalweiß" looks like it's a classy pearlescent white.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Laconian on July 22, 2018, 11:28:32 AM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 02:28:24 AM
One more thing - I ticked the option SPORTY EXHAUST NOTE. It's free, so I figured, Why the hell not?  :praise:

I'm so turning into a Boy Racer...  :thumbsup:

When the car arrives I'm gonna share some videos of the engine note etc.

Lots of swearing in the video plz
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 04:34:23 PM
Quote from: Submariner on July 22, 2018, 06:26:16 AM
Nice.  Congratulations. 

You've been MIA for a while.  Doing well?

Thanks!  :cheers:

I've just been busy with work. Plus I can't go out and take photos anymore thanks to GDPR, and that was the majority of my postings on this site.  ;)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 04:35:46 PM
Quote from: mzziaz on July 22, 2018, 07:27:40 AM
Congrats, Christian.


How much more expensive was a C-class?

Thanks!  :cheers:

A C-Class Wagon would have been awesome (or a CLA Shooting Brake), but I'm forced to drive a much smaller car due to my parking spot and that of my neighbor. Plus, an A-Class-sized car is the way to go for a European city. Even C-Class owners have problems with parking here...
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 04:36:58 PM
Quote from: dazzleman on July 22, 2018, 08:45:43 AM
Congratulations Chris!  I hope you have a lot of fun in your new set of wheels.  I look forward to seeing the shots you take of the speedo with the needle way over on the right.  I really like the interior too.

Thanks, and you bet! This thing can do 250 km/h (155 mph). Maybe you should visit me next year and then I can take you for a ride on the Autobahn! :lol:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on July 22, 2018, 08:59:25 AM
Congrats, looking forward to seeing the "real life" pics!  :ohyeah:

Thank you! And I definitely can't wait to professionally photograph my new car when it arrives. It's a looker for sure.  :praise:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: Galaxy on July 22, 2018, 10:34:24 AM
The LED headlights may be worth a thought, as well as the adaptive distronic, even though they are expensive options.

What is the difference between the "digitalweiß" metallic white they have for the new A compared to the "diamantweiß" metallic white the other models have?

I ticked the LED option. I was surprised to learn that the A-Class comes standard with Halogen lights - which seems like an outdated technology by now.

Another option was Multibeam which includes LED and swiveling headlights. My dad's E350 CGI W212 has swiveling headlights and I don't find any real advantage to them.

To be honest I don't know the color differences. For the new A-Class there are currently only a handful of colors available of which I find Polar White and Iridium Silver to be the most appealing.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: Laconian on July 22, 2018, 11:28:32 AM
Lots of swearing in the video plz

In English or German? :lol:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Laconian on July 22, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 22, 2018, 04:34:23 PM
Thanks!  :cheers:

I've just been busy with work. Plus I can't go out and take photos anymore thanks to GDPR, and that was the majority of my postings on this site.  ;)

Can't you blur the plates? GPDR covers personally identifiable information.

I could write you a program to scrub plates automatically, it could be a fun challenge.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 23, 2018, 06:06:53 AM
Quote from: Laconian on July 22, 2018, 10:54:55 PM
Can't you blur the plates? GPDR covers personally identifiable information.

That's what I would now normally do.

But, the problem is that BEFORE I even take the photo - and here comes the clincher - I need the written permission of whoever is visible in the scene/photo that I can take the photo and post it online. And GDPR gives people the power to change their mind and if they don't want the photo online anymore you have to take it down.

If you don't do this you're essentially committing a crime.

This is why I don't go car spotting anymore. Even if I blur out the faces and plates, I've still committed a crime because I didn't ask the 32934803439348 people visible in the photo for permission.

I want to know what kind of f*cking moron came up with this unrealistic crap rule. At busy touristy areas there are hundreds of people visible and hundreds more come and go. There is no way to follow this retarded rule to the letter.

And the sad thing is the rest of Europe doesn't give a shit - except for the stupid Germans who have to follow everything the EU shits out 150% to the letter. Here in Germany there is an entire lawyer industry dedicated to sending out warning letters (Abmahnindustrie) if you're caught doing something illegal.

My website now has a cookie warning, a cookie policy page and a long page dedicated to data privacy thanks to these idiotic GDPR laws. Whoops, my website also has a link to my Facebook page - that's illegal because evil Facebook collects data bla bla bla... I always say, "If you're afraid of data privacy then stay off the Internet."
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Galaxy on July 23, 2018, 08:15:06 AM
^
Then how the hell do news sites still operate? The media today is full with coverage of the protests in Munich with thousands of faces visible in the pictures/videos.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: MrH on July 23, 2018, 08:54:29 AM
Looks great, congrats!  I like that you get the dual big LCD screens in the A-class over there.  Very S-class like.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 23, 2018, 09:21:08 AM
Quote from: Galaxy on July 23, 2018, 08:15:06 AM
^
Then how the hell do news sites still operate? The media today is full with coverage of the protests in Munich with thousands of faces visible in the pictures/videos.

Well here comes the unfair part.

The media, television and news are allowed to cover public events without having to worry about backlash.

But commercial photographers can't do this unless they have written permission from all people in the scene - before they take the photo. Many hobby photographers think this retarded rule does not affect them - it does. Under German law whatever photos you post on Facebook are considered commercial (gewerblich). Thanks to the Jan Philip Albrecht of the disgusting Green Party (and many others) for pushing the DSGVO/GDPR.  :lockedup:

Data privacy is important, but these rules are missing the mark by a whole fucking galaxy...

The way I see it the government wants to ban all forms of non-state news. This is further reinforced with the blatant attempts by Axel Voss of the CSU/CDU to push for Article 11 and 13 laws - literally the complete and utter censorship of the Internet in Europe.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 23, 2018, 09:22:52 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 23, 2018, 08:54:29 AM
Looks great, congrats!  I like that you get the dual big LCD screens in the A-class over there.  Very S-class like.

Thanks!

The interior is fascinating. I wanted to skimp on some of the more high-tech features but they're included in the AMG Business Package, so mine will have the MBUX (voice activated controls).

Go to 15:20 and check it out... :lol :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uwpTboy2zo
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 23, 2018, 12:26:50 PM
Hey Wimmer,

Can you post photos of the public anywhere online? Flickr? Imgur etc.?

Photography is one of my big draws for going to Europe

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41601371@N00/

Would suck if I couldn't share my photos from there. Seems to be a bit of overreach and with it being ECB driven there's probably no avenue to change it. What a nightmare.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Laconian on July 23, 2018, 12:50:01 PM
GPDR sucks. Much much too big of a stick for enforcement. It's terrible for hobbyists and small businesses.

It's a "stick it to the man" measure, but in this case "the man" has plenty of money to pay for compliance and lawyers, so everyone else just gets... stuck.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: AutobahnSHO on July 23, 2018, 06:40:41 PM
Looks nice Christian!  When do you get into the seat?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 02:58:10 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 23, 2018, 12:26:50 PM
Can you post photos of the public anywhere online? Flickr? Imgur etc.?

You can - if you have the written permission of everyone visible in the photo (and they have your contact details as well).

In Germany the law states that when you post photos on Facebook, Flickr etc. they automatically are considered COMMERCIAL. So even hobby photographers or the little girl who takes pictures of horses at riding events are now considered CRIMINALS if they upload photos with identifiable people on their business pages.

The only legal way to take public photos according to the GDPR is if you photograph them with your camera or smartphone AND DO NO UPLOAD THEM ONLINE. But who does that? The reason I take snapshots in public of whatever is to share them with my friends on social media!



Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 23, 2018, 12:26:50 PMPhotography is one of my big draws for going to Europe

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41601371@N00/

Would suck if I couldn't share my photos from there. Seems to be a bit of overreach and with it being ECB driven there's probably no avenue to change it. What a nightmare.

Technically GDPR also applies to tourists. But - what's the EU gonna do? Send a lawyer over to harass you? I think you are pretty much safe to take as many photos as you want without fear of the EU knocking on your door. And if they do harass you, tell them in your kindest way to "GO AND FUCK OFF!"  :ohyeah:

I think the law will probably only go after commercial photographers in this case. So this is why I don't do the "Spotted Today" or "Car Spotting" threads anymore because there are people and their faces visible in these photos.

In my opinion the rest of Europe isn't even taking GDPR seriously - except for Germany. We have to because we have an entire industry here dedicated to harassing people for every infringement. And already they are suing small businesses left and right, including photographers. A photographer friend in a group got a 270,- Euro Fine because a word on his data privacy statement was misspelled! Madness! Can you believe that? A small midsize company was fined 30,000 Euros because their website wasn't https (still http).

The morons who came up with GDPR need to die in the most slow, painful way. And so do these asshole lawyers in Germany who are rubbing their hands with delight at the "business opportunities" which GDPR has opened up for them...
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 03:00:58 AM
Quote from: Laconian on July 23, 2018, 12:50:01 PM
GPDR sucks. Much much too big of a stick for enforcement. It's terrible for hobbyists and small businesses.

It's a "stick it to the man" measure, but in this case "the man" has plenty of money to pay for compliance and lawyers, so everyone else just gets... stuck.

Exactly. I hate GDPR. I hate the EU for it. I hate the asshole Green Party and CSU/CDU politicians for it (and their desire to implement Article 11 and 13...). This stupid law is gonna prevent Internet start-up companies. It's gonna hinder industrial growth. It's going to put a stop to entrepreneurship because nobody wants to deal with all the bullshit that GDPR expects of small companies.

And yet the fathers and mothers of this retarded GDPR crap are patting themselves on the back telling everyone how this is gonna help Europe grow economically and become safer... delusional fucktards.

Oh, supposedly California wants to introduce a similar law.  :mask:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 03:02:40 AM
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on July 23, 2018, 06:40:41 PM
Looks nice Christian!  When do you get into the seat?

Thanks!

Ordering it this or next week. Might take 2-3 months before it arrives. A-Class is selling like hot cakes right now, I've seen some on the road already but most do not have the AMG package.

I'm hoping it arrives before late October because I definitely want to drive and photograph it with those lovely 19" AMG wheels and summer tires before I have to put my winter tires on (which I have not selected for it yet...).
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 05:58:35 AM
These were taken at MB Munich.

From left to right: A200 AMG Line (white), A250 AMG Line Edition 1 (black) and two base A180d's.

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ben3srf5t/A200_1.jpg)



Here are some real life pictures of what my car will look exactly like this A200 AMG Line, except mine will have the 19"AMG LMR wheels and no panoramic sunroof (so my roof will be white).

(https://s22.postimg.cc/dx8ssv0pt/A200_2.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/jy6hpyi75/A200_2_a.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/8ylaec4mp/A200_2_b.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/y4m8l78ht/A200_3.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/v995ew235/A200_4.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/fcadhloy9/A200_5.jpg)


Love the graphic interface! When you turn on the lights of the car they also turn on in this graphic!  :mrcool:

(https://s22.postimg.cc/6h9j72sg1/A200_6.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/vnahdxwb5/A200_7.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/dx8sswqg1/A200_8.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/sgfxubrap/A200_9.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/kaxvw6arl/A200_10.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/fp1rnucdt/A200_11.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x2c22os9d/A200_12.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/w01vk5wld/A200_13.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/3n6dtpikx/A200_14.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/527yifrdt/A200_15.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/g1t5u1pip/A200_16.jpg)


The Nissan-Renault 1.33-l turbo engine, good for 163-horsepower.

(https://s22.postimg.cc/knpa2eirl/A200_17.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/5rqqutf2p/A200_18.jpg)






I don't like black cars, but this A200 looks nice with the black and white ARTICO (MB-TEX) seat material.

(https://s22.postimg.cc/y22cyvs4x/A200_Leather_1.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/lao6sed81/A200_Leather_2.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/7tr89iv6p/A200_Leather_3.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/748fx6hsh/A200_Leather_4.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ek7piy2wx/A200_Leather_5.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/6epnksmdt/A200_Leather_6.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/7gzu3csch/A200_Leather_7.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/x12497dk1/A200_Leather_8.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/h2tejctpd/A200_Leather_9.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: MrH on July 24, 2018, 07:34:28 AM
43k euros?! :mask:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Raza on July 24, 2018, 09:04:26 AM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 02:58:10 AM
You can - if you have the written permission of everyone visible in the photo (and they have your contact details as well).

In Germany the law states that when you post photos on Facebook, Flickr etc. they automatically are considered COMMERCIAL. So even hobby photographers or the little girl who takes pictures of horses at riding events are now considered CRIMINALS if they upload photos with identifiable people on their business pages.

The only legal way to take public photos according to the GDPR is if you photograph them with your camera or smartphone AND DO NO UPLOAD THEM ONLINE. But who does that? The reason I take snapshots in public of whatever is to share them with my friends on social media!



Technically GDPR also applies to tourists. But - what's the EU gonna do? Send a lawyer over to harass you? I think you are pretty much safe to take as many photos as you want without fear of the EU knocking on your door. And if they do harass you, tell them in your kindest way to "GO AND FUCK OFF!"  :ohyeah:

I think the law will probably only go after commercial photographers in this case. So this is why I don't do the "Spotted Today" or "Car Spotting" threads anymore because there are people and their faces visible in these photos.

In my opinion the rest of Europe isn't even taking GDPR seriously - except for Germany. We have to because we have an entire industry here dedicated to harassing people for every infringement. And already they are suing small businesses left and right, including photographers. A photographer friend in a group got a 270,- Euro Fine because a word on his data privacy statement was misspelled! Madness! Can you believe that? A small midsize company was fined 30,000 Euros because their website wasn't https (still http).

The morons who came up with GDPR need to die in the most slow, painful way. And so do these asshole lawyers in Germany who are rubbing their hands with delight at the "business opportunities" which GDPR has opened up for them...

Wow, that's crazy.  In the US, you have no privacy interest in your image when you're out in public.  You're literally on view for everyone, so why would there be a privacy interest?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 2o6 on July 24, 2018, 10:26:01 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 24, 2018, 07:34:28 AM
43k euros?! :mask:

JESUS.


A Ford Focus starts at like 15k EUR and is the same size! And Ford is known for being a brand easy to negotiate in basically every country...
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: MrH on July 24, 2018, 10:29:36 AM
That's $50k!  That's like E class territory.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 2o6 on July 24, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 24, 2018, 10:29:36 AM
That's $50k!  That's like E class territory.


Wimmers is nearly 46k EUR!

I mean if you can afford it and you want it, go for it. But I feel like that's a lot of money for not a lot of car. A loaded up Ford Focus (vingale)  is literally half price.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 12:59:48 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 24, 2018, 07:34:28 AM
43k euros?! :mask:

Yep.

But don't worry, there's also a poverty-spec A-Class with literally zero features for the traditional grandpas and grandmas who don't need all that fancy stuff.  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: Raza  on July 24, 2018, 09:04:26 AM
Wow, that's crazy.  In the US, you have no privacy interest in your image when you're out in public.  You're literally on view for everyone, so why would there be a privacy interest?

Officially we're told that these laws are for our data privacy, but most of us know it's part of their efforts to censor the people and free speech. Any halfway competent facial recognition software (such as what Facebook uses) can identify people via their face. This is why taking photos in public places is a crime if A) the faces of people are clearly visible and B) you don't have their permission.

There used to be a law in Germany known as the KUG - Künstler Urhebergesetz from 1907 - which basically stated that when you're outdoors photographing buildings, historical landmarks, cars etc. the people that are visible are Beiwerk, which I can best translate as "they are just there". This law made taking pictures in public legal.

GDPR is now above the KUG, so the KUG is worthless. The KUG is also worthless because the current incompetent German government had all the time in the world to adjust and tone down the GDPR laws for Germany, but they didn't do it...
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on July 24, 2018, 10:33:23 AM

Wimmers is nearly 46k EUR!

I mean if you can afford it and you want it, go for it. But I feel like that's a lot of money for not a lot of car. A loaded up Ford Focus (vingale)  is literally half price.

Mine is actually closer to 48,000 Euros.  :lol:

But I am buying it through my business which means I can get up to 9% (or more) discount.

I'm trading in the BMW which was valued by the in-house Dekra of Mercedes Munich at 6,500 Euros. More discount.

There's also the possibility that I can get the dealership to register the car in their name for a day, and the next day I will pick it up as the second owner. This is called a Tageszulassung in Germany and some dealerships offer it. This means once the car is registered with the first owner, the dealership, a huge depreciation sets in (I was told it's around 5,000 Euros).

This guy explains it pretty well.


That is widespread in Germany too AFAIK. It partly a tax saving but partly price 'politics'. It's called 'Tageszulassung'. Not fully au fait with the details, but I think either the manufacturer or the dealer registers the car as owned but never drive it. That way the car has 0km on the clock but is theoretically a used car. We found a load of good deals when we bought our car last year. Example: Fiat Stilo 1 year old, 0km, top 'ausstattung', upholstery, CD, aircon, and other gadgets, worth €18500 cost €12000. Didn't go for that because I am not a Fiat fan, but there were other similar deals. A ring around for good 'Tageszulassung' deals might turn up something.

Link: https://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/topic/7946-buying-a-new-car-in-germany/
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 01:22:47 PM
Quote from: MrH on July 24, 2018, 10:29:36 AM
That's $50k!  That's like E class territory.

Yeah, it's an expensive car but here people don't really think in terms of "$50k for an A-Class? I'd rather get an E-Class for the same money!"

They think in terms of "I want a ___________ [insert brand here] which fits into my garage space!" Literally. So even if it's a smaller car which costs the same as a bigger car, people may go for the smaller car because it's what they know will fit into their garage etc. :ohyeah:

I do think the A-Class is worth the premium over other cars, and I had the same feeling in the BMW 118i. For example, I checked out the Volkswagen Golf Wagon, Skoda Fabia and a Toyota Auris Wagon just for fun. Nice cars, but they lacked that solidity feel that you get in the BMW 1er or A-Class when you open the doors and sit inside. The doors on the Golf, Fabia and Auris felt and sounded cheap and flimsy. On my 1er and in the A-Class the doors open and shut with a heavy feel of authority and solidity.

These are intangible features that BMW and MB somehow engineered into their cars and Volkswagen and Toyota didn't in the case with the Golf/Fabia/Auris. It's those little attention to detail issues which reassure me that there's a reason why they're asking more than other manufacturers. So essentially I as a consumer feel that a little more engineering or quality went into the 1er/A-Class and the Golf/Fabia/Auris were built to a price. Get what I mean?  :cheers:

Plus, I do like cars and want some driving excitement. The Fabia and Auris do not offer that despite their value for money. :cheers:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 68_427 on July 24, 2018, 03:53:32 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 01:12:59 PM
Mine is actually closer to 48,000 Euros.  :lol:

But I am buying it through my business which means I can get up to 9% (or more) discount.

I'm trading in the BMW which was valued by the in-house Dekra of Mercedes Munich at 6,500 Euros. More discount.

There's also the possibility that I can get the dealership to register the car in their name for a day, and the next day I will pick it up as the second owner. This is called a Tageszulassung in Germany and some dealerships offer it. This means once the car is registered with the first owner, the dealership, a huge depreciation sets in (I was told it's around 5,000 Euros).

This guy explains it pretty well.


That is widespread in Germany too AFAIK. It partly a tax saving but partly price 'politics'. It's called 'Tageszulassung'. Not fully au fait with the details, but I think either the manufacturer or the dealer registers the car as owned but never drive it. That way the car has 0km on the clock but is theoretically a used car. We found a load of good deals when we bought our car last year. Example: Fiat Stilo 1 year old, 0km, top 'ausstattung', upholstery, CD, aircon, and other gadgets, worth €18500 cost €12000. Didn't go for that because I am not a Fiat fan, but there were other similar deals. A ring around for good 'Tageszulassung' deals might turn up something.

Link: https://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/topic/7946-buying-a-new-car-in-germany/

I don't see why a dealership would eat profit like this just because you ask?  I think i've heard of some dealerships doing this to boost numbers (ie sales) to fudge the books, but never on a brand new customer ordered car.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 24, 2018, 04:46:19 PM
Quote from: 68_427 on July 24, 2018, 03:53:32 PM
I don't see why a dealership would eat profit like this just because you ask?  I think i've heard of some dealerships doing this to boost numbers (ie sales) to fudge the books, but never on a brand new customer ordered car.

You're right. And this is why you have to "play the game". Go to a number of MB dealers and tell them that Audi or BMW is offering this much off on the competitor product / willing to register it for a day etc. It's worth a shot. I don't think they'll do this with someone who's ordering a poverty-spec A-Class, but when you're talking about the one I am gonna order it's pretty loaded.

At any rate, I've saved up enough cash to pay to full price, but I definitely wanna try and get them to come down with the price a little.  :ohyeah:

Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Galaxy on July 24, 2018, 10:00:37 PM
He is buying the car directly from Mercedes-Benz, not an independent dealer.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Morris Minor on July 25, 2018, 08:43:24 AM
Congrats Christian. It's a great car and you'll love it.
The *only* little thing my left brain is saying is that having the lowered & skirted AMG package might be an issue if you have to go off onto bumpy tracks & stuff at remote photo shoot locations.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Laconian on July 25, 2018, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 25, 2018, 08:43:24 AM
Congrats Christian. It's a great car and you'll love it.
The *only* thing little thing my left brain is saying is that having the lowered & skirted AMG package might be an issue if you have to go off onto bumpy tracks & stuff at remote photo shoot locations.

Impossible! All roads are glassy smooth in Germany.  :hammerhead:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 25, 2018, 02:03:48 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 25, 2018, 08:43:24 AM
Congrats Christian. It's a great car and you'll love it.
The *only* little thing my left brain is saying is that having the lowered & skirted AMG package might be an issue if you have to go off onto bumpy tracks & stuff at remote photo shoot locations.

Thank you!  :cheers:

I'm not too worried about the lowered stance. I went "off-road" with the 1er lots of times and it managed just fine. Right now I am more concerned with what wheels I should get for my winter wheels! By the time the car arrives (in 2-3 months) I'll possibly need winter wheels and tires fitted. Problem is, aside from the AMG wheels I ordered (19" AMG LMR) I don't like the other AMG wheels that are offered.


Here's a Dutchman reviewing what is basically my car; in English. A250 AMG Line with 19" AMG LMR wheels! Mine will be white!  :wub:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lar2yE4CxAs
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 25, 2018, 02:12:11 PM
Update!

Got an 11% discount from a Mercedes dealer in the province by playing the game ("But BMW is offering almost 18% on a 125i bla bla bla...") if I am buying the car through my business. That's the absolute max they could go, and this was already VERY generous on their part. It's the dealer where I had a summer job years ago.

So basically I'm getting 5,300 Euros off from 48,000 Euros which my A250 AMG Line is worth with my options of choice. Add to that the 6,500 Euros I could get from them for the BMW 118i and I'm looking at 11,800 Euros off the price! Not bad!  :lol:


Let's see if Mercedes in Munich can do better!
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Laconian on July 25, 2018, 02:18:28 PM
Maybe I can see this in person someday...!
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 25, 2018, 02:23:20 PM
Quote from: Laconian on July 25, 2018, 02:18:28 PM
Maybe I can see this in person someday...!

Visit me in Germany next year and I'll take you for a ride on the Autobahn!  :lol:

I recently learned that the US is not getting the A-Class hatch but the A-Class sedan. Think of it as a "CLA replacement" even though Mercedes' is planning to sell the new CLA (and apparently the Shooting Brake) in the US again.

Before settling on the A-Class I was seriously considering a low mileage used CLA Shooting Brake; and for a very brief moment (a very brief moment) even a CLA45 AMG Shooting Brake.  :tounge:

Anyway, you'll soon see these in the US!  :ohyeah:


(http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery-full/m/mercedes-benz/a_200l_sport_sedan/mercedes-benz_a_200l_sport_sedan_9.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: giant_mtb on July 25, 2018, 02:35:43 PM
Just get some 17" black steel wheels with thicker tires for winter.  Much comfier ride, especially on a cold tire.  Winter compounds are generally pretty flexible in the cold, but still.  Might look kinda cool, too.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 25, 2018, 02:40:28 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 25, 2018, 02:35:43 PM
Just get some 17" black steel wheels with thicker tires for winter.  Much comfier ride, especially on a cold tire.  Winter compounds are generally pretty flexible in the cold, but still.  Might look kinda cool, too.

I definitely want the car to look good in the winter, so I am willing to pay for some nice wheels... I'm even thinking AMG again. :lol:

These would look nice as winter wheels.

(http://i.wheelsage.org/image/format/picture/picture-gallery/m/mercedes-benz/a_180_d_amg_line/mercedes-benz_a_180_d_amg_line_31_0292023d09d706ac.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: giant_mtb on July 25, 2018, 02:41:17 PM
Pfffff. :lol:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 25, 2018, 02:43:44 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 25, 2018, 02:41:17 PM
Pfffff. :lol:

Well this would be the cheap way to go... :lol:

(https://s22.postimg.cc/roxj7ah7l/Unbenannt-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 27, 2018, 10:16:23 AM
UPDATE!


The good news? Ordering it tomorrow!  :rockon:


The bad news? They can only deliver the car in December because the demand is currently so high.

This also means that I'll be driving it until late April 2019 with its winter wheels - 18" AMGs, yes, I took the plunge on those as well because I care about aesthetics and an AMG body kit needs AMG wheels!  :mrcool:

So below, my 19" AMG summer wheels and my 18" AMG winter wheels! What do you guys think? I love the 19" summer rims, but man those 18" AMGs sure make good-looking winter wheels!




(https://s22.postimg.cc/3vtwd1q41/Layer_Order.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Submariner on July 27, 2018, 10:20:05 AM
Honestly, the stock rims look damn good, but the AMG's do look sharp.

Congrats on the car, BTW.  You got the V12, right?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: FoMoJo on July 27, 2018, 10:22:50 AM
I like the winter rims better.  Slightly meaner look :mask:.  It accentuates the black bits on the car.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 27, 2018, 10:28:10 AM
Quote from: Submariner on July 27, 2018, 10:20:05 AM
Honestly, the stock rims look damn good, but the AMG's do look sharp.

The 18" AMG winter wheels are the default wheels when you select the AMG body kit. Had the 19"ers not come along those would have been my choice. But by fate, I saw an Iridium Silver new A-Class with those 19"ers on the road and I instantly fell in love and had to have them!


Quote from: Submariner on July 27, 2018, 10:20:05 AMCongrats on the car, BTW.  You got the V12, right?

Nope, the quadruple turbocharged transversely-mounted V16 which takes up all of the trunk space. :lol:

The performance of the A250 is impressive. I thought the A180d I testdrove was pretty agile and quick - mine's gonna be super cool! It's the top-of-the-line A-Class until the A43 AMG and A53 AMG come along. ;)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 27, 2018, 10:29:01 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on July 27, 2018, 10:22:50 AM
I like the winter rims better.  Slightly meaner look :mask:.  It accentuates the black bits on the car.

Design is subjective! ;)

I am just happy that I have good-looking AMG wheels for the winter and not some cheapo embarrassing plastic hubcaps or wheels which don't mix with the AMG body kit. ;)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: HurricaneSteve on July 27, 2018, 11:51:51 AM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 27, 2018, 02:33:16 PM
Quote from: HurricaneSteve on July 27, 2018, 11:51:51 AM
Congrats!

:cheers:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Morris Minor on July 27, 2018, 06:08:58 PM
Do you have somewhere to store the wheels when they're not being used?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 28, 2018, 10:58:30 AM
Man that is a lot of money for an A-Class. How much is VAT there?

I guess for the money and end use it's hard to do much better. A similarly equipped GTI probably costs the same
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 28, 2018, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 27, 2018, 06:08:58 PM
Do you have somewhere to store the wheels when they're not being used?

Yeah, at the workshop of a mechanic friend of my father's.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 28, 2018, 01:58:18 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 28, 2018, 10:58:30 AM
Man that is a lot of money for an A-Class. How much is VAT there?

I guess for the money and end use it's hard to do much better. A similarly equipped GTI probably costs the same


It's an investment. ;)

I'm also getting almost 11,500 Euros off the price; 6,500 Euros for the BMW, 5,000 Euros discount because I'm purchasing the car through and for my business. I plan on keeping the car for 10+ years. Not really interested in the Volkswagen Golf; the only Golf I really like is the Golf Wagon, especially in GTD trim! :lol:

Also, today I canceled the genuine AMG [winter] wheels, which would have increased the price by almost 2,500 Euros.

Instead I'm going for AMG-lookalikes from Rial, a German company who specializes in high quality wheels. Behold, the Rial M10!


(https://static.felgenshop.de/rial-m10-felge-silber-winterfelge-alufelge-2000x2000.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: MrH on July 30, 2018, 07:00:28 AM
2500 Euros for winter wheels!  :wtf:  Wimmer, sounds like I need to go be a photographer in Germany
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 12,000 RPM on July 30, 2018, 07:58:26 AM
No, you need to be a Benz dealer.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: MrH on July 30, 2018, 08:08:46 AM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on July 30, 2018, 07:58:26 AM
No, you need to be a Benz dealer.

True.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 30, 2018, 09:45:09 AM
Quote from: MrH on July 30, 2018, 07:00:28 AM
2500 Euros for winter wheels!  :wtf:  Wimmer, sounds like I need to go be a photographer in Germany

Aesthetics are important for me.  :praise:

But if you've read my recent update I've cancelled the genuine AMG "winter" wheels and I'm going for the Rial M10. They look the same, they're high quality and the only difference is they don't say "AMG" on them. Oh, and they're almost 1,100 Euros cheaper!  :rockon:

Here's an old A-Class with Rial M10 wheels.

(https://static3d.felgenshop.de/rial-m10-metal-grey-felge-mit-reifen-grau-in-18zoll-winterfelge-alufelge-auf-silbernem-mercedes-a-klasse-typ-176-mit-15mm-tieferlegung-industriehalle-1-camera-002-1920.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Morris Minor on July 31, 2018, 02:34:49 PM
Just get some 18" black steel snow wheels. They'll look badass, and you're not going to be stressing about them getting dinged.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: giant_mtb on July 31, 2018, 03:35:47 PM
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 31, 2018, 02:34:49 PM
Just get some 18" black steel snow wheels. They'll look badass, and you're not going to be stressing about them getting dinged.

That's what I was gettin' at.  I like the look of steelies (clearly :lol:), but Wimmer is...classy as frig, a no holds barred kinda guy.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on July 31, 2018, 04:55:04 PM
Believe it or not the summer wheels on the BMW 118i, an 11-year-old car, are in PERFECT condition. Not once did I hit a curb or sidewalk and cause damage to them. I am proud of that.  :praise:

I'm not worried about damaging the wheels on my new car when it arrives. But I do want it to look good in the winter, so it needs AMG-style wheels. Rial is the perfect company for that. Good-looking wheels for relatively little money!  :mrcool:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 2o6 on July 31, 2018, 05:10:45 PM
Are the 118i and the A250 the same bolt pattern?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Galaxy on July 31, 2018, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: 2o6 on July 31, 2018, 05:10:45 PM
Are the 118i and the A250 the same bolt pattern?

The bolt pattern should be the same. The diameter and the width will be the showstopper.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 01, 2018, 02:48:48 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on July 31, 2018, 05:10:45 PM
Are the 118i and the A250 the same bolt pattern?

The 118i has a 5-bolt pattern, I am pretty sure the new W177 A-Class has the same pattern. Are you hinting at something? :lol:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: 2o6 on August 01, 2018, 11:54:52 AM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on August 01, 2018, 02:48:48 AM
The 118i has a 5-bolt pattern, I am pretty sure the new W177 A-Class has the same pattern. Are you hinting at something? :lol:


Yeah, just share winter wheels and tires
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Xer0 on August 01, 2018, 01:11:48 PM
Congrats!

I'm glad you didn't settle on the "adequate" A200 and decided to live a little.  Totally the right choice.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 02, 2018, 10:30:24 AM
Quote from: 2o6 on August 01, 2018, 11:54:52 AM

Yeah, just share winter wheels and tires

16" winter wheels on the A250 are gonna look terrible. :lol:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 02, 2018, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: Xer0 on August 01, 2018, 01:11:48 PM
Congrats!

I'm glad you didn't settle on the "adequate" A200 and decided to live a little.  Totally the right choice.

Thanks!

I wouldn't have minded the A200 because it's not slow, but I was just worried that a 1.33-l engine is gonna be more stressed than a 2.0 engine, especially with my speedy driving style.

MBUX works great! Took this video today!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdTutp64720
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 02, 2018, 10:40:51 AM
Was at the dealer again today because I just wanna hang out with the new A-Class...

The matte gray A250 AMG Line on the left has my 19" AMG wheels, the white A200 AMG Line to its right has my color, the Night Package (dark mirrors, darker headlights) and my upcoming identical-looking RIAL M10 winter wheels!  :wub:

(https://s22.postimg.cc/w0pwif9s1/AClass_1.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/rrl6ga93l/AClass_2.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/dxwtr8vxt/AClass_3.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/wq8outkm9/AClass_4.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/iwkc5rcld/AClass_5.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/g2h6sb2pd/AClass_6.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/4q4laimap/AClass_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: SJ_GTI on August 02, 2018, 10:52:34 AM
I dig that matte gray color. You should change your order and get that one.  :lol:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 02, 2018, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on August 02, 2018, 10:52:34 AM
I dig that matte gray color. You should change your order and get that one.  :lol:


It does look nice. But for me Polar White is the way to go.  :wub:

But here, eat your heart out!  :praise:


(https://s22.postimg.cc/72cl8295t/image.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/6ctsvpgc1/image.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/c103mm7tt/image.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ofmvmxjwh/image.jpg)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/dg1obc175/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Morris Minor on August 02, 2018, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on August 02, 2018, 10:52:34 AM
I dig that matte gray color. You should change your order and get that one.  :lol:
Hmm, yes. that is very tasty. :wub:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 02, 2018, 03:12:51 PM
Polar White for me!  :praise:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 05, 2018, 04:26:05 AM
 :wub:

(https://s33.postimg.cc/te1id48z3/WF_Total.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 12, 2018, 07:17:49 AM
MBUX (Offline) is awesome, especially the onboard instruction manual with videos and voiceover!  :mrcool:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccat4RyOnOU
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Laconian on August 13, 2018, 08:25:56 PM
Hm, that's probably the smoothest MMI I've seen.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 14, 2018, 05:08:29 AM
Quote from: Laconian on August 13, 2018, 08:25:56 PM
Hm, that's probably the smoothest MMI I've seen.

When the car arrives I will do a detailed walkaround video and show the MBUX system in action. Man, November/December can't come fast enough!

The only thing that irritates me is that the car will come from the factory with those lovely 19" Multispoke LMR AMG wheels, which will then have to be exchanged for the 18" Rial M10 (AMG-lookalike) wheels with winter tires...
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 17, 2018, 05:05:35 PM
A250 AMG Line Edition 1


(https://s33.postimg.cc/52incw9jz/20180721_152538.jpg)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/d80pb2d8f/20180721_152545.jpg)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/htwtjf6hb/20180721_152559.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: FoMoJo on August 17, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Those rims are hot.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 18, 2018, 02:01:56 AM
Quote from: FoMoJo on August 17, 2018, 06:12:35 PM
Those rims are hot.

Agreed. Those are my wheels in 19" format and in silver.

Australian review of the A200 AMG Line. Red is a bit too aggressive and LOOK AT ME for my tastes.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXrSDx5_gcg
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: FoMoJo on August 18, 2018, 07:08:45 AM
Red is not the colour for it.  Makes it look a bit cheap.  Definitely white, but the black is stunning.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 18, 2018, 08:35:14 AM
Someone Photoshopped a Maybach A-Class.  :lol:

(http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/img/uploaded/image114358.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 23, 2018, 10:57:08 AM
Article about the new W177 A-Class in the 2018 issue of Mercedes Munich Magazine. This car is so awesome!  :rockon:

The technology in here is gonna trickle over to the next-generation C-Class, CLA-Class, B-Class etc. Good times ahead!

(https://s33.postimg.cc/kh5bkspof/A-_Class_1.jpg)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/ur7qk22pb/A-_Class_2.jpg)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/byvvggylb/A-_Class_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: SJ_GTI on August 23, 2018, 11:17:49 AM
Man, I really dig that gray color. Are you sure you don't want to change your mind...?
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 23, 2018, 04:31:35 PM
Quote from: SJ_GTI on August 23, 2018, 11:17:49 AM
Man, I really dig that gray color. Are you sure you don't want to change your mind...?

:lol:


Nah, I want my A250 in Polar White. :praise:

Received an email from Mercedes-Benz today; my car will be ready in the 1st or 2nd week of November. That was the first contact regarding the car's delivery. They will contact me against for a more precise date.

Next week I am going to order the Rial M10 "AMG lookalike" winter wheels and tires.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 24, 2018, 10:38:39 AM
A-Class article in the Mercedes Me magazine.  :wub:

(https://s33.postimg.cc/frz519rkr/MB_A-_Class_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/frz519rkr/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/dandu1a97/MB_A-_Class_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dandu1a97/)

Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on August 24, 2018, 10:42:09 AM
A handful of people who worked on and helped develop the new A-Class. Also from Mercedes Me magazine.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/5j6nvfvt7/A-_Class_Developers_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5j6nvfvt7/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/kf5731mnf/A-_Class_Developers_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kf5731mnf/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/oo9x57xmj/A-_Class_Developers_3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oo9x57xmj/)

Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on September 22, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
An Iridium Silver A250 AMG Line with my 19" AMG wheels. This car just lacks the Night Package (darker mirrors, toned windows).  :wub:

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJvMtcrz/A250_1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/50kcJYvN/A250_2.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hvHHJkpk/A250_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on October 25, 2018, 12:16:07 PM
A week or two and my new baby is finally here.  :rockon:

Was at the dealership yesterday and they had this red A250 AMG Line with Night Package. I believe FoMoCo liked the red color.  ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pX9jKSGb/0.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/BQdKpCk8/1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VknbVCPK/2.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/TPxWM3Rf/4.jpg)


Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: FoMoJo on October 25, 2018, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on October 25, 2018, 12:16:07 PM
A week or two and my new baby is finally here.  :rockon:

Was at the dealership yesterday and they had this red A250 AMG Line with Night Package. I believe FoMoCo liked the red color.  ;)

(https://www.germancarforum.com/attachments/a250-amg-red-1-jpg.461149/)

(https://www.germancarforum.com/attachments/a250-amg-red-2-jpg.461150/)

(https://www.germancarforum.com/attachments/a250-amg-red-5-jpg.461152/)
Images don't show.  I do like red on some cars, but it doesn't suit the A250 AMG imo.  White's the right colour.  Red makes it look like a VW.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on October 25, 2018, 03:20:55 PM
Fixed! :ohyeah:

The images were visible to me because I was logged into another forum where I posted them.

Red looks nice, but it's too "flashy" and "too aggressive" to me. White is ideal.  :wub:

By the way, feel free to configure your own A-Class here. It's in German but it's self-explanatory! Just click on the photos or tick the boxes! :)

https://www.mercedes-benz.de/passengercars/content-pool/tool-pages/car-configurator.html/?rccVehicleModelId=177082&rccNationalSalesType=000


Quick translation. I'm curious what you'll come up with if you attempt this. ;)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8CqkQydW/Untitled-1.jpg)



Select your engine and option-away!  :dance:

(https://i.postimg.cc/DyyTDkVH/Untitled-12.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/prjqcdWz/fkdjfk1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/15pvp4YZ/fkdjfk2.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/7YvBGS9V/fkdjfk3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on October 31, 2018, 12:00:15 PM
UPDATE!


According to the Mercedes salesman the current high demand of the A-Class has caused a "slight delay" for mine and it should arrive on... November 20th.

I'm dying here to drive it and can't wait that long.  :(  :banghead:

The weird thing seems to be that customers outside of Germany have priority. I'm on another forum dedicated to German cars and a lot of the guys in the UK and Australia already have their A-Classes.

We need a Donald Trump at Mercedes-Benz: GERMANY FIRST!!!  :tounge:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: SJ_GTI on October 31, 2018, 12:12:32 PM
That sucks, when you are expecting something and then it gets delayed it feels worse than if they had just given you the later date to begin with.  :rage:
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: FoMoJo on October 31, 2018, 12:27:16 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on October 31, 2018, 12:00:15 PM
UPDATE!


According to the Mercedes salesman the current high demand of the A-Class has caused a "slight delay" for mine and it should arrive on... November 20th.

I'm dying here to drive it and can't wait that long.  :(  :banghead:

The weird thing seems to be that customers outside of Germany have priority. I'm on another forum dedicated to German cars and a lot of the guys in the UK and Australia already have their A-Classes.

We need a Donald Trump at Mercedes-Benz: GERMANY FIRST!!!  :tounge:
Cancel it and buy a Mustang GT350 :ohyeah:.
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: Soup DeVille on October 31, 2018, 12:31:20 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on October 31, 2018, 12:00:15 PM
UPDATE!


According to the Mercedes salesman the current high demand of the A-Class has caused a "slight delay" for mine and it should arrive on... November 20th.

I'm dying here to drive it and can't wait that long.  :(  :banghead:

The weird thing seems to be that customers outside of Germany have priority. I'm on another forum dedicated to German cars and a lot of the guys in the UK and Australia already have their A-Classes.

We need a Donald Trump at Mercedes-Benz: GERMANY FIRST!!!  :tounge:

There was a song about that once...
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: CaminoRacer on October 31, 2018, 01:20:24 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on October 31, 2018, 12:27:16 PM
Cancel it and buy a Mustang GT350 :ohyeah:.

+1
Title: Re: Wimmer's upcoming new ride...
Post by: cawimmer430 on November 01, 2018, 03:14:20 AM
Yeah, this blows. The salesman told me there might still be chance that the car can arrive earlier. He will found out in the next few days and inform me. The sooner the better.

I'm also worried that if it snows in mid-November I'll be in some deep shit. The car will arrive with summer tires and the law here is *Snow = winter tires! Period!*.

A Ford Mustang GT350? Nice car but I need a little bit more interior space and a Mustang won't fit into my parking spot! Well it will, but then my neighbor cannot maneuver into their parking spot! No joke, parking spaces here are so damn small...  :tounge: