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Title: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Payman on January 17, 2019, 08:07:30 AM
jeeeeeesus...

Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Payman on January 17, 2019, 08:09:33 AM
I half expect to see Creepy Karpis peering out from behind that prison cell grille.  :mask:
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on January 17, 2019, 08:49:06 AM
Is this the new Ram truck?
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Payman on January 17, 2019, 08:56:35 AM
It's the new BMW 750LL Laramie Longhorn.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2019, 09:11:50 AM
Who is in charge here. I want to speak to the manager on duty
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: veeman on January 17, 2019, 09:19:16 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uOW81UETK-k

The interior dash is 2:20 in the video.  Dash lit up at night is 4:10 in the video.

Not bad.  Exterior looks pretty good including big ass grille.  Large ICE sedans are a dying segment in the U.S. being killed by large SUVs and the Model S and this BMW should compete well with S class Merc for the scraps left over. 
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Galaxy on January 17, 2019, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: Rockraven on January 17, 2019, 08:09:33 AM
prison cell grille.  :mask:

That is actually a good description for this monstrosity.

There was a time when a 7 Series was classy, now it looks like it belongs in a rap video. 
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: veeman on January 17, 2019, 11:19:48 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TqamiOVdh0Y

7 series have always been rap/hip hop cars but like the Escalade, can feel equally at home at a country club.

Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: giant_mtb on January 17, 2019, 11:41:45 AM
Besides the gigantic grille, I think it's a great looking car.  Very imposing and stately, as the big Bimmers always have been.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: 93JC on January 17, 2019, 11:51:45 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/66/160542792_ba60285bd0_b.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2019, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: veeman on January 17, 2019, 09:19:16 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uOW81UETK-k

The interior dash is 2:20 in the video.  Dash lit up at night is 4:10 in the video.

Not bad.  Exterior looks pretty good including big ass grille.  Large ICE sedans are a dying segment in the U.S. being killed by large SUVs and the Model S and this BMW should compete well with S class Merc for the scraps left over.
No, it's bad. Bad compared to its competitors, and downright apostasy in the context of what the 7 series used to be.

You can't look at this and tell me this new monstrosity is beautiful.

(https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/5ae0af22706f2_1523821123150b1981Z5A0030-940x595.jpg)

Even the reviled E65 is gorgeous by comparison

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pxvc0hU6omk/Trv25iaxmZI/AAAAAAAABdU/6ihfM2on3fo/s903/DSC_0793.JPG)

MCM doesn't post anymore because even he knows BMW's design trajectory is indefensible
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: BimmerM3 on January 17, 2019, 12:09:17 PM
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 17, 2019, 11:41:45 AM
Besides the gigantic grille, I think it's a great looking car.  Very imposing and stately, as the big Bimmers always have been.

+1 but the grill kills it for me from a style perspective.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Galaxy on January 17, 2019, 12:26:02 PM
Quote from: veeman on January 17, 2019, 11:19:48 AM

7 series have always been rap/hip hop cars but like the Escalade, can feel equally at home at a country club.



Not in stock form.

These giant radiator grills are basically on the same level as fake exhaust pipes.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Submariner on January 17, 2019, 12:30:25 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2019, 11:59:21 AM
No, it's bad. Bad compared to its competitors, and downright apostasy in the context of what the 7 series used to be.

You can't look at this and tell me this new monstrosity is beautiful.

(https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/5ae0af22706f2_1523821123150b1981Z5A0030-940x595.jpg)

Even the reviled E65 is gorgeous by comparison

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pxvc0hU6omk/Trv25iaxmZI/AAAAAAAABdU/6ihfM2on3fo/s903/DSC_0793.JPG)

MCM doesn't post anymore because even he knows BMW's design trajectory is indefensible

MCM?
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2019, 01:19:13 PM
Mexico City ///M?
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: veeman on January 17, 2019, 01:19:54 PM
Enough said  :lol:
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Galaxy on January 17, 2019, 01:25:13 PM
I have complained quite often here about the Audi grills becoming caricatures as well.

Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: BimmerM3 on January 17, 2019, 01:26:49 PM
I dunno why, but the Audi grills don't bother me as much. Maybe I'm just used to them by now.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Submariner on January 17, 2019, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on January 17, 2019, 01:19:13 PM
Mexico City ///M?

lol I see.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: FoMoJo on January 17, 2019, 01:34:16 PM
Huge grilles seem to be in currently.  However, as loud as the BMW grille is, it's pales to the cow-catcher grilles presently used by Lexus.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: giant_mtb on January 17, 2019, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 17, 2019, 01:26:49 PM
I dunno why, but the Audi grills don't bother me as much. Maybe I'm just used to them by now.

Same.  I may be biased 'cause I had one and have always loved the looks of Audis.  Plus, it seems like BMW took a giant leap in grille size, so it's a bit offputting.  Whereas Audi's grilles have slowly progressed in size.

I mean, going from this:

(https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=557567&stc=1&d=1459820510)

to this:

(https://s3-prod.autonews.com/s3fs-public/styles/width_792/public/BMW7series-main_i.jpg)

just seems really extreme. :wtf:
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: cawimmer430 on January 17, 2019, 02:07:56 PM
Aside from the comically large kidney grilles, it's still a nice-looking car inside and out.

But man, what were they thinking when they decided to bless/curse this car with such a humongous kidney grille!? It looks so out of place.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Laconian on January 17, 2019, 04:38:10 PM
IMO the comically large badges/grilles on luxury cars we're seeing these days are like flames to nouveau riche moths.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: MX793 on January 18, 2019, 07:30:32 AM
Looks like they tried to mesh the grille from a Rools with the twin kidneys of a BMW.  Blech.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: MexicoCityM3 on January 18, 2019, 08:54:02 AM
I think it looks better than the bland pre-facelift one. As the flagship sedan it can use a little bling.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Raza on January 20, 2019, 09:06:01 AM
The grille is too small.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: cawimmer430 on February 01, 2019, 04:51:24 PM
Saw the new 7er at BMW Welt. Ok, the kidney grilles are massive, BUT in person they don't come across as offensive or distracting as they may do in the press photos.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hk0WJL7C/BMW-7er-1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/7LxHSygJ/BMW-7er-2.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/tg2X5m5S/BMW-7er-4.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fLyMgjqw/BMW-7er-5.jpg)
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: FoMoJo on February 01, 2019, 04:56:48 PM
Nice looking car.  The grille looks okay on it.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: cawimmer430 on February 01, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on February 01, 2019, 04:56:48 PM
Nice looking car.  The grille looks okay on it.

I thought it would look awful, but in person they do blend in rather well. It's a nice car, but I am scared away by the massive size of this thing. It's bad enough that parking spaces here are so small you something can't even park properly with a modern compact!
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: FoMoJo on February 01, 2019, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on February 01, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
I thought it would look awful, but in person they do blend in rather well. It's a nice car, but I am scared away by the massive size of this thing. It's bad enough that parking spaces here are so small you something can't even park properly with a modern compact!
I guess it depends on the angle and the lighting.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: cawimmer430 on February 01, 2019, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: FoMoJo on February 01, 2019, 05:04:43 PM
I guess it depends on the angle and the lighting.

It does. And in real life things tend to look better - or worse.  :tounge:

From my point of view the new 7er looks good.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: Submariner on February 01, 2019, 05:17:19 PM
A downgrade from the previous 7, and even the Bangelized E65 before it.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: CALL_911 on February 02, 2019, 01:51:49 AM
Quote from: Submariner on February 01, 2019, 05:17:19 PM
A downgrade from the previous 7, and even the Bangelized E65 before it.

Most E65s I see are hoopties that live in the projects, but I do think its design aged well.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: giant_mtb on February 02, 2019, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on February 01, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
I thought it would look awful, but in person they do blend in rather well. It's a nice car, but I am scared away by the massive size of this thing. It's bad enough that parking spaces here are so small you something can't even park properly with a modern compact!

I imagine people that can afford such a vehicle can also afford off-street parking with a large enough space.
Title: Re: 2020 BMW 7-series
Post by: 12,000 RPM on February 02, 2019, 11:50:28 AM
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 02, 2019, 01:51:49 AM
Most E65s I see are hoopties that live in the projects, but I do think its design aged well.
E60 has aged very well too compared to the boring ass F10 that followed.