Honda S2000

Started by MrH, February 27, 2016, 05:53:26 PM

MrH

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FoMoJo

Great looking wheels :ohyeah:.  Kicks it up a couple of notches appearance wise.
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MrH

Need to ditch the neon green valve stem caps and do something about the rusty calipers.  They look pretty bad.

So I knew my right rear shock was gone.  It was spewing oil and it was riding like garbage.  Now I know why.

When I bought the car, the previous owner didn't tell me it was in an accident ever.  Carfax was totally clean.  Once I got it home, I noticed the right rear quarter panel had some pretty extensive damage previously, but the body work was done pretty well.  It drove fine for awhile, and then this shock went.

When they pulled the old suspension off, the piston rod on that shock was bent.  I guess the seal pack held for awhile, but eventually gave out and started puking oil everywhere.

Shop did a slightly roll to the rear fenders.  Fronts fit without any rolling :rockon:  No rubbing so far either, despite going up in size quite a bit.  4-6 lbs lighter at each corner, 40 mm more tire in the front.  2.5" wider wheel.

The new coilovers ride great!  Handling limits I haven't even touched yet (it was raining on and off yesterday and today), but it's definitely comfortable enough to daily now.
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Xer0

Hmmmm.........mods, rolled fenders, and an accident?  Junk, I'll give you $5 for it  :lol:

Really digging the new rims.  Hows that ground clearance for the Ohio roads though, it looks a bit lower than stock or maybe the larger wheels just make it look like it is?  Here in Chicago I feel like it would scrape left and right on everything and our potholes are no joke.

MrH

It looks really good from 30 feet for being an 18 year old car that's been in an accident.  No use trying to keep it perfectly stock.  The value is already gone out of it, might as well enjoy it how I like it.  It'll always fetch $15k or so, but that's about it.

Yeah, it's lowered quite a bit compared to stock.  Honestly, it scraped more when it just had the OEM front lip.  I used to scrape at stock ride height with that on just pulling into work.  It looked stupid and was cracked and scrapped so I took it off a long time ago.  No scraping yet with the new ride drop.  Luckily, the front and rear overhangs are so short, dips aren't an issue.  Quick steering makes dodging potholes easy :lol:
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CALL_911

Goddaaaaaaaaaaaamn that's sexy


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Eye of the Tiger

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*pokes around the corner making whining sounds*
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MrH

So I was driving home from work yesterday,  I just thought: Wow, I'm driving this thing more in the last month than I have in the last year probably.  As I thought that, looked down.  Check engine light on.

O2 sensor.  Need to reset the code and hope it's just an intermittent failure.
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Eye of the Tiger

Better check your VTEC manifold grease spool tensioner for unusual wear patterns.
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MrH

Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on July 11, 2019, 09:24:49 AM
Better check your VTEC manifold grease spool tensioner for unusual wear patterns.

Good point.  I'll check it out.

At the same time, my Chinese LED turn signal bulbs in my Accord...one went out.  And then the TPMS sensor came on.  I'm basically a mechanic now! :lol:
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Eye of the Tiger

Did you try turning it off, and back on again?
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CaminoRacer

Do they sell easy replacement LED bulbs or do you have to replace whole strings?
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MrH

Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 11, 2019, 10:08:52 AM
Do they sell easy replacement LED bulbs or do you have to replace whole strings?

Whole strings of what?  It's a bulb made up of a bunch of LEDs.
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CaminoRacer

Oh ok, it's just one bulb.

Most LED taillights are a line of LEDs so that's what I was wondering about.
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MrH

Quote from: CaminoRacer on July 11, 2019, 11:20:50 AM
Oh ok, it's just one bulb.

Most LED taillights are a line of LEDs so that's what I was wondering about.

Oh, these are just a single bulb.  Replaced the stock halogen orange bulbs.  I hate the orange reflection in the whole thing when it's sitting off.
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MrH

I reset the check engine light, it came back on.  Asked the dealer for a quote to replace it and it was $400+ :mask:  The OEM O2 sensor is like $330 and an hour of work to change.

Bought one on RockAuto for $30, scheduled to get it swapped out today at the dealer.

Otherwise, S2000 is awesome.  New suspension, wheels, and tires totally revived my love for this thing.  The stance looks great.  It's very low (it's settled even a little lower than the pictures above), but the overhangs are so short. 



I don't have that ridiculous looking lip on the front anymore), it doesn't scrap much.  Ride is shockingly good for how little travel it has.  Bilstein PSS were definitely a good call.

Had all that preventive maintenance done: valve adjustments, coolant flush, plugs, etc.

Only things I really need to address once this O2 sensor gets done:

- Have bad creaking noises with the top up.  There are some areas you can grease to fix it apparently.  Have to do that
- Need to replace a trim clip I broke
- Need to redo the rear tray the roof sits in.  It rattles a bit, probably missing a screw or two or something. Same with door panels.
- Calipers need cleaning up.  They're rusty.
- Everyone says the timing chain tensioners go on these all the time.  I don't have any of the signs, but will probably do it as a precaution.
- Clutch buzz is pretty serious, but I'll just put up with it because it's so expensive to get a clutch replaced
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12,000 RPM

Stance is Sporty approved :ohyeah:

What are the tire + wheel specs/weight?
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r0tor

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MrH

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Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 08, 2019, 05:39:47 AM
Stance is Sporty approved :ohyeah:

What are the tire + wheel specs/weight?

Quote from: r0tor on October 08, 2019, 05:47:00 AM
That looks fantastic

Thanks fellas.

Stance is very sporty-esque.

Wheels are 949 Racing 6ULs.  Made with a flow form process, kind of splits the difference cost wise between a forged and cast wheel.  Mostly used on miatas, exocets, S2000.  17x9, +55 offset, 17.4 lbs

Tires are Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. 245/40.  Here's kind of the comparison from stock to new setup:

Wheel Brand   F/R/B   Model   Diameter   Width   Offset   Wheel Weight (lbs)   Tire Width   Aspect Ratio   Tire Weight (lbs)   Total Weight @ Corner (lbs)
Honda             F           OEM           16           6.5            55            17.6                            205          55              26                            43.60
Honda             R           OEM           16           7.5            65            20.5                              225          50              26                       46.50
949 Racing   F&R           6UL           17           9            55            17.4                                   245          40              23                            40.4


So I ended up from a staggered setup to a square setup.  Added +40 mm in width to the front tires, +20 mm in the rear.  +1" in diameter, +2.5" in wheel width in the front, +1.5" in the rear. Dropped 3.2 lbs off each front corner, 6.1 lbs off each rear corner :rockon:



Suspension is just Bilstein PSS coilovers.  No damping adjustability, but I learned with the BRZ it was largely a waste.  Ride and performance is great on these.  I have very little travel, but it's still a really comfortable ride.
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12,000 RPM

Flow form wheels are the shit. And yea, 1 good shock valving curve is better than 32 shitty ones. That thing must be a blast now
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FoMoJo

Quote from: MrH on October 09, 2019, 07:38:48 AM
Thanks fellas.

Stance is very sporty-esque.

The upgrades have added greatly to the overall appearance.  Well done, but you'll have to update your post picture.
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AutobahnSHO

Those wheels fit on Miatas?...  :dance:

But how much $$??.....
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Xer0

More tire and less weight, always an amazing combo  :clap:

MrH

Quote from: 12,000 RPM on October 09, 2019, 08:49:45 AM
Flow form wheels are the shit. And yea, 1 good shock valving curve is better than 32 shitty ones. That thing must be a blast now

Turn in is infinite. AP1s have really quick steering too. I can throw it into any corner. The issue is really the rear end. It's twitchy and rotates really fast. Real susceptible to mid corner balance changes, especially from off throttle. Engine spinning at 7000+ RPM has a lot of weight shift. You have to be careful not to lift abruptly at all to try to tuck the nose anything, because it'll snap on you quick. It's like a less forgiving, more manic 911 but with no weight out back to catch as it rotates :lol:

It's an experience for sure. Makes the BRZ and NC look like boring commuter cars. I can't slide this thing on on-ramps like I could with the NC though.
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MrH

Quote from: AutobahnSHO on October 09, 2019, 07:09:33 PM
Those wheels fit on Miatas?...  :dance:

But how much $$??.....

They make them in 15s and 16s which fit miatas better. S2000s all run the 17s for the most part because they make them in +55 offset which is a strange setup and pretty much S2000 specific.

Wheels were around $250 a piece, so it was maybe $1100 for the set shipped, and I think tires were another $840 think?  It was around $2k for wheels and tires.

Got the coilovers for dirt cheap of course. :praise:

I took it to TurnIn Concepts and they did the coilover install, ride height adjustments, alignment, and they rolled the fenders in the rear just slightly. Got away without rolling the fronts by running enough camber in the front. I get a very very slight rub if I go close to full lock with a lot of speed and off camber road surface.
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12,000 RPM

Hmm, maybe adjustable damping would be good. Sounds like you have too much rear rebound. Might need some more toe in too. And with the square tires that front end is gonna hold on for dear life. AP1s are notorious for snap oversteer out of the box; surprised Bilstein didn't dual that back.
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