I think he could have saved it and still won.
Car vs Bike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfxvTu81-mA#ws)
Unless that BMW had a blown v12 with 800HP I don't see why he even bothered trying to "launch" his bike. Could have just rolled off the line and pegged it and been gone.
Probably too busy looking at the T&A and wanted to put on a show, well he put on a show alright.
Reason #96413 that cars are better than bikes.
Quote from: Raza on June 02, 2014, 04:23:40 PM
Reason #96413 that cars are better than bikes.
DBAP
Dont be a pussy. 1 idiot looping his bike doesnt mean shit.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 02, 2014, 07:48:39 PM
Dont be a pussy. 1 idiot looping his bike doesnt mean shit.
Find me a video of a guy in a car botching a launch and then falling out of his car and then we'll talk. :dance:
Driver Gets Ejected at Drag Race (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aRZ46KGTKo#)
Quote from: hotrodalex on June 02, 2014, 09:54:31 PM
Driver Gets Ejected at Drag Race (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aRZ46KGTKo#)
Okay, let's talk.
But seriously, post-crash ejection is not the same as falling out of your car because you let the clutch go too abruptly or bogged on launch.
Quote from: Raza on June 03, 2014, 06:14:28 AM
Okay, let's talk.
But seriously, post-crash ejection is not the same as falling out of your car because you let the clutch go too abruptly or bogged on launch.
This was more than just letting the clutch out abruptly or bogging on launch. I have done both and lived and not looped my bike.
Quote from: Raza on June 03, 2014, 06:14:28 AM
But seriously, post-crash ejection is not the same as falling out of your car because you let the clutch go too abruptly or bogged on launch.
Yeah but that was the best I could do. :lol:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 03, 2014, 06:45:25 AM
This was more than just letting the clutch out abruptly or bogging on launch. I have done both and lived and not looped my bike.
Aren't you the guy who's crashed his bike twice now? Or is it three times?
:lol: Sorry, I couldn't help myself
Yep I have crashed 3 times and I'm still walking and breathing. All avoidable crashes prompted by stupid choices and all crashes I walked away from. Hell the only thing this guy hurt was his pride. Motorcycling is more dangerous than driving but Raza is a 2 wheel hypochondriac. Hes too scared to ride so he has to point out how dangerous it is at any given opportunity. No thx.
Quote from: MrH on June 03, 2014, 11:06:36 AM
Aren't you the guy who's crashed his bike twice now? Or is it three times?
:lol: Sorry, I couldn't help myself
There are 2 types of motorcyclists: those that have crashed and those that will.
It's a fact that riding a bike is about 35 times more likely to result on serious injury or death per mile driven than driving a car.
Having said that, it's a personal choice whether the risk is worth it.
I've been somewhat close to taking it at some points in life but not until now. Also, I am aware that the figure above of 35x is an average that includes idiots racing without helmets in their Hayabusas as well as Harley riders riding to a coffee shop once every two weeks. And the risk is not the same for every kind of rider.
What scares me is things beyond my control that inevitably happen out in the street. Like being rear ended for example. In a car, whiplash and that's it. On a bike, much worse.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on June 03, 2014, 02:44:43 PM
What scares me is things beyond my control that inevitably happen out in the street. Like being rear ended for example. In a car, whiplash and that's it. On a bike, much worse.
You can't avoid everything, but good motorcyclists have a heightened sense of awareness for stuff like this. If I approach a green light with a car looking to make a left from the other lane I slow waaaaaaaaaaaaaay the hell down and watch them. I keep it in first gear at lights and give myself room in case of a potential rear ending. Etc. Again you can't stop everything but the heightened sense of awareness is just a part of being "plugged in". That tension is cancelled out by the sensations.
women dress like that?
Quote from: MrH on June 03, 2014, 11:06:36 AM
Aren't you the guy who's crashed his bike twice now? Or is it three times?
:lol: Sorry, I couldn't help myself
I've been on the concrete 3 times myself. Only once was my fault but I've never been seriously injured! :Knocks on wood:
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on June 03, 2014, 02:44:43 PM
What scares me is things beyond my control that inevitably happen out in the street. Like being rear ended for example. In a car, whiplash and that's it. On a bike, much worse.
The second time I got hit (8/06) the concrete was from being rear ended! I escaped with only bruises.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/TWOBIGHEDZ/Picture261.jpg)
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 03, 2014, 03:18:44 PM
You can't avoid everything, but good motorcyclists have a heightened sense of awareness for stuff like this. If I approach a green light with a car looking to make a left from the other lane I slow waaaaaaaaaaaaaay the hell down and watch them. I keep it in first gear at lights and give myself room in case of a potential rear ending.
This is what happen to me the first time (9/2005) I got hit! I was watching the chick coming towards me but since she wasn't signaling a left turn I thought she was going straight.....I was wrong!
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/TWOBIGHEDZ/untitled.jpg)
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 03, 2014, 01:47:26 PM
Yep I have crashed 3 times and I'm still walking and breathing. All avoidable crashes prompted by stupid choices and all crashes I walked away from. Hell the only thing this guy hurt was his pride. Motorcycling is more dangerous than driving but Raza is a 2 wheel hypochondriac. Hes too scared to ride so he has to point out how dangerous it is at any given opportunity. No thx.
Well, you're a black male and you ride a motorcycle. Statistically, you're already dead.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on June 03, 2014, 02:44:43 PM
It's a fact that riding a bike is about 35 times more likely to result on serious injury or death per mile driven than driving a car.
Having said that, it's a personal choice whether the risk is worth it.
I've been somewhat close to taking it at some points in life but not until now. Also, I am aware that the figure above of 35x is an average that includes idiots racing without helmets in their Hayabusas as well as Harley riders riding to a coffee shop once every two weeks. And the risk is not the same for every kind of rider.
What scares me is things beyond my control that inevitably happen out in the street. Like being rear ended for example. In a car, whiplash and that's it. On a bike, much worse.
I like giving Sporty a hard time, since he constantly talks about how unsafe human-operated cars are, but then rides a motorcycle (which he's crashed three times, apparently), like it's not hypocritical. And when anyone points it out, he gets all rustled, jimmie-wise, so that's always fun.
He didn't even notice that my post was taking the piss out of his post where he called for autonomous cars in a thread about a car crash, he was so quick to try to unbunch his panties.
Quote from: Raza on June 03, 2014, 09:11:55 PM
I like giving Sporty a hard time, since he constantly talks about how unsafe human-operated cars are, but then rides a motorcycle (which he's crashed three times, apparently), like it's not hypocritical. And when anyone points it out, he gets all rustled, jimmie-wise, so that's always fun.
He didn't even notice that my post was taking the piss out of his post where he called for autonomous cars in a thread about a car crash, he was so quick to try to unbunch his panties.
There's no hypocrisy. Motorcycle = threat to me alone. Bad drivers (including folks who use public roads as personal race tracks, drive without stability control on and claim "trail braking saved their lives") = threat to everybody else on the road. Choice of autonomous cars = less bad drivers, removing the biggest piece of the threat to my safety on a motorcycle. Not hard to understand, unless one goes into an apoplectic fit any time autonomous cars are mentioned, or has strong emotional issues tied to control. Me riding a motorcycle is a red herring in the context of the fact that autonomous cars would make roads safer for everybody.
Yeah, because if a motorcycle comes through my windshield, I'll be just fine.
You're deluded.
Quote from: Raza on June 04, 2014, 08:52:14 AM
Yeah, because if a motorcycle comes through my windshield, I'll be just fine.
You're deluded.
U like stats.... what % of accidents involving a cars and motorcycles leave the people in the car injured/killed?
Are you trying to imply someone on a motorcycle is a bigger threat to your safety than someone in a car/SUV?
:popcorn:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 04, 2014, 09:12:41 AM
U like stats.... what % of accidents involving a cars and motorcycles leave the people in the car injured/killed?
Are you trying to imply someone on a motorcycle is a bigger threat to your safety than someone in a car/SUV?
I'm not implying anything. Nice try.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 04, 2014, 09:12:41 AM
U like stats.... what % of accidents involving a cars and motorcycles leave the people in the car injured/killed?
Are you trying to imply someone on a motorcycle is a bigger threat to your safety than someone in a car/SUV?
Actually an argument could be made that due to it's low weight and shape a motorcycle would be alot more likely to come off the ground during a collision. Which would actually make it more likely than a car to come over the hood and injure the cars occupants.
Quote from: Raza on June 04, 2014, 11:05:16 AM
I'm not implying anything. Nice try.
Then what are you saying? What's a bigger threat to your safety on the road... cars or bikes?
Lamborghini Crashes in Chicago Suburbs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pgm8I0B8bY#ws)
Someone asked for one of these?
Quote from: Rupert on June 11, 2014, 07:13:35 PM
Lamborghini Crashes in Chicago Suburbs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pgm8I0B8bY#ws)
Someone asked for one of these?
A Lamborghini sandwich :lol:.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on June 04, 2014, 12:56:30 PM
Actually an argument could be made that due to it's low weight and shape a motorcycle would be alot more likely to come off the ground during a collision. Which would actually make it more likely than a car to come over the hood and injure the cars occupants.
The mass difference outweighs any such possibilty.
Quote from: FoMoJo on June 11, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
A Lamborghini sandwich :lol:.
Public service announcement: If idiot, do not turn off ESP.
I personally don't see the point in driving without ESP on the street. Saved my ass so many times, especially when it's wet out.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 12, 2014, 09:29:01 AM
I personally don't see the point in driving without ESP on the street. Saved my ass so many times, especially when it's wet out.
+1. I use "intermediate mode" a lot on the street but DSC fully off only at track/autocross.
Only times I've ever turned off DSC were in the snow to do donuts.
I don't know what I would do on an autocross - depends on the car. My dad autocrossed a rental Challenger one time and ended up leaving traction control on to get a faster lap. Lots of new Mustangs seem to get a little too tail happy with ESC off and lose a couple of tenths. Just depends on how much it interferes.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 12, 2014, 09:29:01 AM
I personally don't see the point in driving without ESP on the street. Saved my ass so many times, especially when it's wet out.
:hesaid:
Is there any point in having a RWD car if you leave stability control on?
You guys are no fun.
I'm the epitome of fun because I no longer have any sort of computer fun killers.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 14, 2014, 11:43:38 PM
Is there any point in having a RWD car if you leave stability control on?
Sure.... compared to FWD/AWD you get better chassis balance and steering feel. Compared to FWD alone you get much better accelerative traction, be it off the line or out of turns. Compared to AWD alone you get less weight on the nose. What are you gaining by turning stability control off on the street :confused: I'm ashamed to say it but I have got my car to its limits on the street with stability control on. On my car at least it only really cuts in when I'm being really silly.... there is plenty of room to play below its threshold. Plus tires, repairs, medical bills etc are expensive.
Quote from: MrH on June 15, 2014, 07:45:16 AM
You guys are no fun.
Because we don't subscribe to your tastes & beliefs :confused: Is your car no fun w/o stability control turned on :confused:
I don't think a BRZ can even activate stability control. :devil:
Quote from: hotrodalex on June 16, 2014, 09:30:48 AM
I don't think a BRZ can even activate stability control. :devil:
:lol:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on June 16, 2014, 06:55:44 AM
Sure.... compared to FWD/AWD you get better chassis balance and steering feel. Compared to FWD alone you get much better accelerative traction, be it off the line or out of turns. Compared to AWD alone you get less weight on the nose. What are you gaining by turning stability control off on the street :confused: I'm ashamed to say it but I have got my car to its limits on the street with stability control on. On my car at least it only really cuts in when I'm being really silly.... there is plenty of room to play below its threshold. Plus tires, repairs, medical bills etc are expensive.
Because we don't subscribe to your tastes & beliefs :confused: Is your car no fun w/o stability control turned on :confused:
Goosing it and letting the tail hang out a bit is good fun and always has me grinning like an idiot. :lol:
Quote from: hotrodalex on June 16, 2014, 09:30:48 AM
I don't think a BRZ can even activate stability control. :devil:
:clap: