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Title: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 11, 2007, 01:14:29 PM
Today on my way to work I broke my never-in-an-accident streek.

With the Viggen.  :rage: :rage: :cry: :cry:

I was in the left lane of 3, the guy in the right lane decided the middle lane would be his best lane and moved over without looking.  This caused the guy who was in the middle lane to excessively swerve directly into me.  Happened instantly didn't even see this happening until I got smoked.

Worst part is the guy wouldn't pull over, until I held my phone up and dialed 911 while he watched.

I'll update when I can.

Yes, I'm ok and so is this other guy.

So now my streek changes from never been in an accident to never been at fault in an accident (officer determined it was the other guys fault in his report.)
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 11, 2007, 01:22:36 PM
 :cry:
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Rupert on December 11, 2007, 01:50:38 PM
How's the car?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 11, 2007, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: Psilos on December 11, 2007, 01:50:38 PM
How's the car?
Looks like no mechanical damage, just body stuff. (hopefully).

He managed to contact every single body piece on my passenger side.  I'm thinking: replace the front QP, mirror and door.  Rear QP "MIGHT" buff out - It has A LOT of scuffs and scrapes but no dents like the door and front.  Front bumper should buff out, just some minor scrapes.

Car drove nice and straight and smooth like always.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: S204STi on December 11, 2007, 04:31:37 PM
Sorry to hear it man...as you might know, I was rear ended in the WRX recently.  Kinda sucks.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: ifcar on December 11, 2007, 04:34:26 PM
Quote from: R-inge on December 11, 2007, 04:31:37 PM
Sorry to hear it man...as you might know, I was rear ended in the WRX recently.  Kinda sucks.

I must have missed that. How serious?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: S204STi on December 11, 2007, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: ifcar on December 11, 2007, 04:34:26 PM
I must have missed that. How serious?

Not too bad.  Worst of it was my wife's whiplash...  they managed to damage the bumper and the tailgate slightly.  You can hardly tell.

Again, I'm more worried about my wife healing up.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raghavan on December 11, 2007, 08:23:56 PM
How is it the other guy's fault if the guy in the right lane caused the other guy to swerve into you?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: AKL on December 11, 2007, 08:57:43 PM
Quote from: Raghavan on December 11, 2007, 08:23:56 PM
How is it the other guy's fault if the guy in the right lane caused the other guy to swerve into you?

Well I don't know the laws behind it.

But I think both are at fault. The guy in the middle lane chose to swerve into Champ without looking. A "proper" way of driving I guess, is to just hit the person in the right lane instead of taking the risk of swerving without looking.

But it's only human nature to swerve immediately when you see someone come right into you.

It's better to not take the risk of causing another accident. I only swerve if its safe now. You don't know whose beside you. It could be a truck, or no one. It's better not to take the risk and potentially cause an even worse accident. Of course, if you're aware of whose beside you. It's fine to swerve. That's why I always take the time to check the rear view mirror to see whose behind/beside me for situations like this. 
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raza on December 11, 2007, 10:18:37 PM
Beat his ass to death.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: saxonyron on December 11, 2007, 11:31:56 PM
Damn!  At least it sounds like the damage isn't too bad.  Why didn't this guy want to pull over?  Did he hope you didn't notice who it was that just took your passenger side out? :huh: Sometimes people are major assholes, especially after an accident.  You can never trust anyone at their word after an accident.  The reality of the insurance surcharges sink in, and they'd sell out their own mother to avoid getting blamed.  Good luck getting the car back together!
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: etypejohn on December 12, 2007, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: Raghavan on December 11, 2007, 08:23:56 PM
How is it the other guy's fault if the guy in the right lane caused the other guy to swerve into you?

Because the guy who hit him  shouldn't have.  The guy in the middle lane has a right to maneuver to avoid being hit by the guy in the right lane, but he also has the obligation to ensure his maneuver doesn't cause him to hit anyone else.  Sucks to be him, he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The guy in the right lane was in the wrong too.  I suspect he just motored on.  Had he stayed around he most likely would have been ticketed also.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 12, 2007, 10:32:50 AM
Quote from: Raghavan on December 11, 2007, 08:23:56 PM
How is it the other guy's fault if the guy in the right lane caused the other guy to swerve into you?
Because the guy in the far right lane didn't hit anything and is long gone by now.

The guy who hit me took a very extreme action by swerving as hard as he did.  He should have braked or even honked!

I've always grown up learning to never swerve.  See a deer in the road?  Stay your course.  Half the time people people swerve and the deer jumps and they hit it anyways because they swerved.  If this guy didn't swerve and the guy in the right did hit him, the guy who hit me would now still be in an accident, but getting it paid for by the original guys insurance instead of paying for my damages.

Swerving is just all kinds of dangerous, especially when he clearly wasn't paying attention to what cars are around him.  What if he had hit the back of my car and spun me out?  We got lucky we connected side to side.
Quote from: AKL on December 11, 2007, 08:57:43 PM
Well I don't know the laws behind it.

But I think both are at fault. The guy in the middle lane chose to swerve into Champ without looking. A "proper" way of driving I guess, is to just hit the person in the right lane instead of taking the risk of swerving without looking.

But it's only human nature to swerve immediately when you see someone come right into you.

It's better to not take the risk of causing another accident. I only swerve if its safe now. You don't know whose beside you. It could be a truck, or no one. It's better not to take the risk and potentially cause an even worse accident. Of course, if you're aware of whose beside you. It's fine to swerve. That's why I always take the time to check the rear view mirror to see whose behind/beside me for situations like this. 
Yep to the bolded.
Quote from: saxonyron on December 11, 2007, 11:31:56 PM
Damn!  At least it sounds like the damage isn't too bad.  Why didn't this guy want to pull over?  Did he hope you didn't notice who it was that just took your passenger side out? :huh: Sometimes people are major assholes, especially after an accident.  You can never trust anyone at their word after an accident.  The reality of the insurance surcharges sink in, and they'd sell out their own mother to avoid getting blamed.  Good luck getting the car back together!
No idea why he wouldn't pull over... Maybe he hoped I would just forget about it? :huh:

Thankfully the damage should be easily repairable and it was nothing mechanical.  So the car should look like a million bucks.


Estimate was $4,312 - the front bumper cover is almost $1,500 alone for part + paint!  Damn those nice looking body parts.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 12, 2007, 10:33:30 AM
Quote from: etypejohn on December 12, 2007, 10:31:08 AM
Because the guy who hit him  shouldn't have.  The guy in the middle lane has a right to maneuver to avoid being hit by the guy in the right lane, but he also has the obligation to ensure his maneuver doesn't cause him to hit anyone else.  Sucks to be him, he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The guy in the right lane was in the wrong too.  I suspect he just motored on.  Had he stayed around he most likely would have been ticketed also.
Yes!
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: etypejohn on December 12, 2007, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: Champ on December 11, 2007, 02:25:29 PM
Looks like no mechanical damage, just body stuff. (hopefully).

He managed to contact every single body piece on my passenger side.  I'm thinking: replace the front QP, mirror and door.  Rear QP "MIGHT" buff out - It has A LOT of scuffs and scrapes but no dents like the door and front.  Front bumper should buff out, just some minor scrapes.

Car drove nice and straight and smooth like always.

Did the guy that hit you have insurance?  If so forget the "it might buff out" stuff>  Get it repaired correctly.  That's why people carry insurance, to fix what they cause to be damaged.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 12, 2007, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: etypejohn on December 12, 2007, 10:33:58 AM
Did the guy that hit you have insurance?  If so forget the "it might buff out" stuff>  Get it repaired correctly.  That's why people carry insurance, to fix what they cause to be damaged.
Yes he did, and I am at the mercy of what the body shop guys say is reasonable.  The rear QP is not dented in any way, just swapped paint.  Getting the estimate this morning the guy told me they would repaint the whole panel.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raghavan on December 12, 2007, 12:38:40 PM
Well, just be happy you weren't on your bike... Could be a much different story right now.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 12, 2007, 01:30:14 PM
Quote from: Raghavan on December 12, 2007, 12:38:40 PM
Well, just be happy you weren't on your bike... Could be a much different story right now.
No doubts there.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 12, 2007, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: Raghavan on December 12, 2007, 12:38:40 PM
Well, just be happy you weren't on your bike... Could be a much different story right now.

I wouldn't have happened on my bike, because I never ride with traffic. You never know what kind of idiot is going to come up where you can't see them and try to occupy the same space as you, and that's why I always ride faster than traffic on my bike. I really think it's the safest thing do to.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 12, 2007, 03:29:21 PM
Quote from: NACar on December 12, 2007, 03:20:26 PM
I wouldn't have happened on my bike, because I never ride with traffic. You never know what kind of idiot is going to come up where you can't see them and try to occupy the same space as you, and that's why I always ride faster than traffic on my bike. I really think it's the safest thing do to.
Me too, except this happened as I was passing a guy!  I am usually cautious but this accident is equivalent to driving by someone and them just swerving at you, no way to have avoided it.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Eye of the Tiger on December 12, 2007, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: Champ on December 12, 2007, 03:29:21 PM
Me too, except this happened as I was passing a guy!  I am usually cautious but this accident is equivalent to driving by someone and them just swerving at you, no way to have avoided it.

I ride even faster than that.  :devil:
But seriously, that certainly would have been very bad if you were riding.  I don't even want to think about that.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: the Teuton on December 12, 2007, 06:17:53 PM
Poor, poor Viggen.  So when are you buying an XWD again?   :lol:
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: heelntoe on December 14, 2007, 05:00:47 AM
damn, sorry to hear man.
someone hit my friend today and broke his leg(tibia is fractured in three places. he;s getting a rod put in there. 'twas a hit and run so there wasn't much we could do.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 14, 2007, 09:31:27 AM
Quote from: heelntoe on December 14, 2007, 05:00:47 AM
damn, sorry to hear man.
someone hit my friend today and broke his leg(tibia is fractured in three places. he;s getting a rod put in there. 'twas a hit and run so there wasn't much we could do.
:(



Do you guys think I should get the pinstripe redone by the guy who did it?  It was free hand and signed under the gas cap.  I haven't really said much ever about the 'stripe on here but it really sets it apart from the other Viggens (as if it's a common car lol).  I called the guy and he lives just over 5 hours from me and is willing to redo it.  He does it all free hand.

The body shop guy told me they would redo it with masking tape and I don't think it'll look nearly as good.

I think I want to drive out to have it redone.  I don't have any pictures of the signature but it is under the gas cap (passenger side) and just above the stripe, says "Sid did it" about 1-2mm tall and 1cm wide.  From 3 feet away it looks like a blurb of paint, really got to get close.  Absolutely amazing he can sign it like that.

For reference:
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8366/DSCN0475.jpg)
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8423/DSCN0479.jpg)
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raza on December 14, 2007, 02:53:45 PM
The pinstripe doesn't even look bad on your car. 

Get it redone by the original guy.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: TheIntrepid on December 14, 2007, 03:11:27 PM
Damn, Champ. This sucks. :(
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Rupert on December 14, 2007, 07:01:46 PM
Original guy, most definitely.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 14, 2007, 07:55:04 PM
The guy's insurance should cover the original pinstripe too!

Sorry to hear- at least you'll get it fixed. Some aren't as lucky..
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 15, 2007, 12:04:27 AM
Quote from: Raza  on December 14, 2007, 02:53:45 PM
The pinstripe doesn't even look bad on your car. 

Get it redone by the original guy.
I think it's what I'll do.  Everyone I tell that I have a pinstripe usually says they hate pinstripes and think no one should have them, then they see mine and are like hey that's actually pretty nice.  I've been happy with it and I think it adds that little extra.

I got quoted $130 by the original guy, $80 by the body shop.  I am guessing the insurance will pay for whichever I choose, but probably not gas down there.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: hounddog on December 15, 2007, 11:54:04 AM
Quote from: etypejohn on December 12, 2007, 10:31:08 AM
Because the guy who hit him  shouldn't have.  The guy in the middle lane has a right to maneuver to avoid being hit by the guy in the right lane, but he also has the obligation to ensure his maneuver doesn't cause him to hit anyone else.  Sucks to be him, he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The guy in the right lane was in the wrong too.  I suspect he just motored on.  Had he stayed around he most likely would have been ticketed also.
Nope.

For the purposes of this debate we will call the right lane car 1, the middle guy 2, and the Viggen 3.

Once the initial contact is made, all bets are off.  2 can be the victim of the laws of physics, where he was pushed into 3.  You know, that whole transfer of energy thing! 

Unless 2 did something which could be construed as at fault PRIOR to the intial collision, the entire fault rests with 1; as described here.  Even if there was no contact between 1 and 2, swerving to avoid a collision is often seen as proper. 

Most likely the car in the middle had no insurance, was wanted, no license or anything along those lines.

We see these types of crashes almost daily on commutor-ways.  Often, if the merging and at fault guy does not stop he is found at fault in the report.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 18, 2007, 10:16:33 AM
Finally an update:

The dude who hit me finally called and claimed to his insurance company.  Since our stories matched they are going to cover the cost of repair to my car + rental car.

Now the body shop told me they found used body panels to use instead of new.  Am I able to say I want the new panels instead?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Danish on December 18, 2007, 01:06:00 PM
I don't see why you shouldn't be able to
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: etypejohn on December 18, 2007, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: Champ on December 18, 2007, 10:16:33 AM
Finally an update:

The dude who hit me finally called and claimed to his insurance company.  Since our stories matched they are going to cover the cost of repair to my car + rental car.

Now the body shop told me they found used body panels to use instead of new.  Am I able to say I want the new panels instead?

You have that right.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: The Pirate on December 18, 2007, 01:26:59 PM
Quote from: Champ on December 18, 2007, 10:16:33 AM
Finally an update:

The dude who hit me finally called and claimed to his insurance company.  Since our stories matched they are going to cover the cost of repair to my car + rental car.

Now the body shop told me they found used body panels to use instead of new.  Am I able to say I want the new panels instead?


Yep, request new stuff, and be assertive about it. 
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raza on December 18, 2007, 01:46:58 PM
The only reason to get used parts is to save money.  But with the other guy covering the costs, get gold plated panels.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 18, 2007, 03:26:06 PM
Well talked to the body shop, they said the used parts are gone so it's new anyways.  They are ordering them now, and I will drop off the car on the 31st of this month, so they will start it fresh after new years.

The person I was talking to said the more experienced techs were taking time off so she wanted me to wait until they got back.  That was nice of her :ohyeah:

So I think I'm goin to wash it (salty as all getout) and put it in the garage until the end of the month.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Soup DeVille on December 18, 2007, 06:31:18 PM
Quote from: Champ on December 18, 2007, 10:16:33 AM
Finally an update:

The dude who hit me finally called and claimed to his insurance company.  Since our stories matched they are going to cover the cost of repair to my car + rental car.

Now the body shop told me they found used body panels to use instead of new.  Am I able to say I want the new panels instead?

Depends, do you want to: It could be a choice between used OEM panels and brand new reproduction ones.

I'd go with the OEMs in almost all cases: they geenerally have better corrosion protection.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: hounddog on December 18, 2007, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: Champ on December 18, 2007, 10:16:33 AM
Finally an update:

The dude who hit me finally called and claimed to his insurance company.  Since our stories matched they are going to cover the cost of repair to my car + rental car.

Now the body shop told me they found used body panels to use instead of new.  Am I able to say I want the new panels instead?
Did you ever file a police report?  If so, contact the PD which handled it and advise them you discovered who the guy was.  If you have his info, give it to the police.  In every state leaving the scene of an accident is a crime.  It is quite possible he was avoiding the law, which may indicate he is a criminal beyond the LSA issue.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: hounddog on December 18, 2007, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: Soup DeVille on December 18, 2007, 06:31:18 PM
Depends, do you want to: It could be a choice between used OEM panels and brand new reproduction ones.

I'd go with the OEMs in almost all cases: they geenerally have better corrosion protection.
I think it might be more indepth than that.  In example, here in Michigan, we as the vehicle owner have the right to argue and contest what parts get placed on a vehicle.  If it is within a certain age, they have no choice but to use OEM parts if you tell them to. 

Find out from a law office what your rights are.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Soup DeVille on December 18, 2007, 06:48:49 PM
Quote from: hounddog on December 18, 2007, 06:46:07 PM
I think it might be more indepth than that.  In example, here in Michigan, we as the vehicle owner have the right to argue and contest what parts get placed on a vehicle.  If it is within a certain age, they have no choice but to use OEM parts if you tell them to. 

Find out from a law office what your rights are.

That is the case in Michigan, I went through that argument with the dealer when my wife's grand am was hit a few years ago.

BTW: when the s2000 had rear end damage, I took it to Northland collision (Ferndale). When I asked about the panels being replaced they told me they never use anything but OEM panels unless its a classic car that they're unavailable on.

I've been a loyal customer ever since.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: hounddog on December 18, 2007, 06:51:20 PM
How do you know? 
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Soup DeVille on December 18, 2007, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: hounddog on December 18, 2007, 06:51:20 PM
How do you know? 

How do I know about the law, or how do I know about the panels?

Well, I eventually got the service manager to admit that the law was on my side, and Honda replacement panels have a holographic sticker on them saying they're OEM.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 18, 2007, 10:25:14 PM
Quote from: hounddog on December 18, 2007, 06:44:03 PM
Did you ever file a police report?  If so, contact the PD which handled it and advise them you discovered who the guy was.  If you have his info, give it to the police.  In every state leaving the scene of an accident is a crime.  It is quite possible he was avoiding the law, which may indicate he is a criminal beyond the LSA issue.
Yea I called the state patrol and an officer came on scene and wrote a report.  They sent each of us a letter and we had to fill out what happened and send it in.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 18, 2007, 10:27:45 PM
So the insurance company wasn't willing to pay mileage to drive to Milwaukee, WI to get the pinstripe redone, but would pay for the stripe itself.

Which is fine.

However I lol'd a bit when I offered this and they declined:  I said I would forgo the rental car if they would pay my mileage there and back, which would be considerably cheaper than paying for a rental.  They said they couldn't do that!  I just think it's funny how the claims work - can't pay out mileage but will pay out MORE for a car just because it's standard or w/e.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raza on December 19, 2007, 10:58:05 PM
Quote from: Champ on December 18, 2007, 10:27:45 PM
So the insurance company wasn't willing to pay mileage to drive to Milwaukee, WI to get the pinstripe redone, but would pay for the stripe itself.

Which is fine.

However I lol'd a bit when I offered this and they declined:  I said I would forgo the rental car if they would pay my mileage there and back, which would be considerably cheaper than paying for a rental.  They said they couldn't do that!  I just think it's funny how the claims work - can't pay out mileage but will pay out MORE for a car just because it's standard or w/e.

Have you given any thought to my gold plated replacement part idea?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: AutobahnSHO on December 20, 2007, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: Raza  on December 19, 2007, 10:58:05 PM
Have you given any thought to my gold plated replacement part idea?
Too heavy- adds to the vehicle's overall weight and reduces acceleration and braking capabilities.  :-)
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on December 20, 2007, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: Raza  on December 19, 2007, 10:58:05 PM
Have you given any thought to my gold plated replacement part idea?
I wonder how the car would handle with one side really heavy?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Danish on December 20, 2007, 01:32:59 PM
Quote from: Champ on December 20, 2007, 09:58:05 AM
I wonder how the car would handle with one side really heavy?

It would help for NASCAR racing events
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 08, 2008, 10:52:12 AM
Dropped the car off at the shop!  I'm really worried it comes out ok, but I think it'll be good.

They are giving me my old bumper back which I can sell for $300-$500 depending how much I hold out.

I got a Jeep Compass as a rental vehicle.  Needless to say it's sitting in my driveway while the '91 900 is getting driven.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 12:18:36 PM
Quote from: Champ on January 08, 2008, 10:52:12 AM
Dropped the car off at the shop!  I'm really worried it comes out ok, but I think it'll be good.

They are giving me my old bumper back which I can sell for $300-$500 depending how much I hold out.

I got a Jeep Compass as a rental vehicle.  Needless to say it's sitting in my driveway while the '91 900 is getting driven.

Out of curiosity, why are you not using the rental? IMO no matter how unfun and shitty it is, I'd drive it to take advantage of the fact that I've got a free car to use, not having to care about wear/tear etc...
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 08, 2008, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 12:18:36 PM
Out of curiosity, why are you not using the rental? IMO no matter how unfun and shitty it is, I'd drive it to take advantage of the fact that I've got a free car to use, not having to care about wear/tear etc...
Thought about that, then I realzed I get much better mileage (I drive ~60 miles a day) out of my car and it's way more fun to drive - and is better in the shitty road conditions we have right now.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 01:01:48 PM
Quote from: Champ on January 08, 2008, 12:54:22 PM
Thought about that, then I realzed I get much better mileage (I drive ~60 miles a day) out of my car and it's way more fun to drive - and is better in the shitty road conditions we have right now.

First two factors are good :ohyeah:

I don't know much about either car, but an old RWD Saab is better in shitty road conditions than a new Jeep?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: The Pirate on January 08, 2008, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 01:01:48 PM
First two factors are good :ohyeah:

I don't know much about either car, but an old RWD Saab is better in shitty road conditions than a new Jeep?


Saab 900 is FWD, ace.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 01:11:23 PM
Quote from: The Pirate on January 08, 2008, 01:09:57 PM

Saab 900 is FWD, ace.

Oops! I always thought it was RWD for some reason
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 08, 2008, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 01:11:23 PM
Oops! I always thought it was RWD for some reason
Thinking of Volvo probably.


There is a reason Saab dominated/did very well in the rally scene in the 60's,70's, and early 80's.  The cars fking own in incliment weather.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 01:29:08 PM
Quote from: Champ on January 08, 2008, 01:16:38 PM
Thinking of Volvo probably.

Yeah, I was thinking of the 240DL in fact. :mask:
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Danish on January 08, 2008, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 01:01:48 PM
First two factors are good :ohyeah:

I don't know much about either car, but an old RWD Saab is better in shitty road conditions than a new Jeep?

The Saab is a front driver and the Compass is a crossover, not a real SUV. Hell, it shares a platform with a Lancer
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Danish on January 08, 2008, 02:14:23 PM
Damn, this is what I get for leaving a window for an hour and then not bothering to check if a question has been answered before putting my two cents in
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: 280Z Turbo on January 08, 2008, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 01:11:23 PM
Oops! I always thought it was RWD for some reason

Maybe because it looks like it is:

(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/6/68/300px-1993_Saab_900T_Convertible_B202_engine.jpg)
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Rupert on January 09, 2008, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 08, 2008, 01:29:08 PM
Yeah, I was thinking of the 240DL in fact. :mask:

Those are also great in snow. They're Swedish, after all.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 11, 2008, 02:06:23 PM
Talked to the shop today, car came out of paint this morning and I'm told it looks great!

I get to keep my old bumper :devil:  :evildude:

Get to pick it up on Monday probably.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 11, 2008, 04:17:47 PM
Insist on picking it up tonight or tomorrow! :rockon:
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 12, 2008, 12:35:03 AM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 11, 2008, 04:17:47 PM
Insist on picking it up tonight or tomorrow! :rockon:
Na I'm not really in a hurry to bring it home just to sit in my garage.  It's snowing now also so I want to wait for a mostly clear day so I don't need to wash it when I get back.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: heelntoe on January 12, 2008, 06:12:51 AM
awesome!
my car's repaint didn't turn out so well. you can clearly tell the door was repainted with mine. i hope a good wash and wax might cure it.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 15, 2008, 09:49:09 AM
Got my car back!!!

It looks VERY nice.  I am totally amazed at how the dent repair guys pull out stuff.

Paint is BRILLIANT and looks amazing.  Now I need my hood repainted :(  You can totally see all the chips now and general fading from being 8 years old.

They gave me my old bumper back too :ohyeah: that's $300-$400 at least!  ....maybe put that towards some HP...
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 15, 2008, 11:37:33 AM
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/IMG_0273.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/IMG_0274.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/IMG_0275.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/IMG_0276.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/IMG_0277.jpg)
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: CJ on January 15, 2008, 02:58:48 PM
Any pictures of the before?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 15, 2008, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: CJ on January 15, 2008, 02:58:48 PM
Any pictures of the before?
Sadly no.  But it wasn't as bad as the $ amount would have you believe.  The front bumper was the biggest part of the bill, at almost $1,500 after paint.

Rest of the car was mostly scraped.  Front fender was dented and replaced.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 15, 2008, 05:31:50 PM
Also, since they gave me my bumper back that was in my car today.  I also stopped to pick up my bike from the shop.

Nothing like having a fun little coupe that will easily load it's own front bumper and a bicycle without using the front seat at all.

Try that in a G35 / 3 series / A4!
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raza on January 15, 2008, 05:44:02 PM
I'll give you $10 for your car.  It's damaged goods now.  A car never feels the same after an accident.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on January 16, 2008, 09:33:13 AM
Quote from: Raza  on January 15, 2008, 05:44:02 PM
I'll give you $10 for your car.  It's damaged goods now.  A car never feels the same after an accident.
Oh believe me it felt good.

40k and we have a deal.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raza on January 16, 2008, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: Champ on January 16, 2008, 09:33:13 AM
Oh believe me it felt good.

40k and we have a deal.

Forty thousand pennies?  Done.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on February 14, 2008, 02:13:13 PM
Going this Saturday to Milwaukee, WI (~5.25 hours) to have the stripe repainted by the original guy.

Pretty pumped up to see the car going back to original.  Also curious to see how this guy can do such a good job by hand.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: CALL_911 on February 14, 2008, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: Champ on January 15, 2008, 05:31:50 PM
Try that in a G35 / 3 series / A4!

(http://www.audiworld.com/news/07/2007-a4-avant-s-line-titanium-roadtest/header.jpg)

(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_419/car_photo_209576_5.jpg)

:devil:
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on February 14, 2008, 03:57:25 PM
Did you forget my car isn't a wagon?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: CALL_911 on February 14, 2008, 03:59:13 PM
Quote from: Champ on February 14, 2008, 03:57:25 PM
Did you forget my car isn't a wagon?

You just said to try to load that stuff in a 3-series/A4/G35. So I found the next best alternative. :lol:
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on February 14, 2008, 04:00:27 PM
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 14, 2008, 03:59:13 PM
You just said to try to load that stuff in a 3-series/A4/G35. So I found the next best alternative. :lol:
How about this:

Try to load that stuff in a G35/3 series/ A-S5 coupe!
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: CALL_911 on February 14, 2008, 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: Champ on February 14, 2008, 04:00:27 PM
How about this:

Try to load that stuff in a G35/3 series/ A-S5 coupe!

:evildude:
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: S204STi on February 14, 2008, 07:08:53 PM
I love your car man...

Looks like solid paint work.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on February 14, 2008, 10:47:07 PM
Quote from: R-inge on February 14, 2008, 07:08:53 PM
I love your car man...

Looks like solid paint work.
Thanks dude :ohyeah:

We'll see how the new paint holds up to 10 hours on the highway.  It's been curing now for about a month without seeing the road so hopefully should do pretty well.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Raza on February 17, 2008, 05:07:49 PM
How did it go?

Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on February 18, 2008, 11:56:58 AM
Just got back late last night!  Had to drive through a white-out blizzard on the way home through Madison, it was nuts.




So when I bought my car it came with a hand painted yellow pinstripe which I loved.  The body shop said they could repaint it with masking tape marking off the areas.  I wanted to have the original guy do it for me so I talked to him and setup the date.

I was skeptical that anyone could paint a pinstripe as perfect as the one that was on the car by hand.  Sure enough this guy proved it was possible.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/TeresasCamera024.jpg)

These are the brushes he uses, $40 each.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/TeresasCamera016.jpg)

He literally eyed it up, then just walked down the car.  The kicker is he DID IT TWICE since it needed two coats because the blue was showing through the yellow.  He does it in one shot with no stops at body panels.



Then he signed it for me.  A few of you guys saw the original signature: "Sid did it" so I had him do a little personalization.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/TeresasCamera031.jpg)

The crazy part is the signature is smaller than the stripe.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/Champer11/TeresasCamera032.jpg)

He just did it with the very tip of his brush.



Nuts.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: CJ on February 18, 2008, 05:15:17 PM
:rockon:

Awesome!
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: J86 on February 18, 2008, 05:25:55 PM
that looks really cool.  Im actually a big fan of pinstripes, done correctly!
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on February 18, 2008, 11:44:57 PM
Quote from: J86 on February 18, 2008, 05:25:55 PM
that looks really cool.  Im actually a big fan of pinstripes, done correctly!
This is about as "correct" as you can get  :mrcool:
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: J86 on February 19, 2008, 02:18:57 PM
I'd agree with you!  Do you have a shot of the whole car with the stripe on it?
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on February 19, 2008, 05:10:45 PM
Quote from: J86 on February 19, 2008, 02:18:57 PM
I'd agree with you!  Do you have a shot of the whole car with the stripe on it?
Not the new stripe, but it is essentially the same as the old one (well, exactly the same).  So here is a picture of the old one:
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8366/DSCN0475.jpg)


I still haven't washed it and when we drove back it was through a blizzard, so it's pretty dirty now.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Cookie Monster on February 19, 2008, 05:13:40 PM
Where is the signature located? Under the gas cap? That's really cool!
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: Champ on February 19, 2008, 07:21:53 PM
Quote from: thecarnut on February 19, 2008, 05:13:40 PM
Where is the signature located? Under the gas cap? That's really cool!
Yea, passenger side.
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: J86 on February 20, 2008, 02:56:17 PM
Oooh, dats nice!
Title: Re: Accident
Post by: S204STi on February 20, 2008, 03:34:49 PM
The pinstripes work on your car because they follow that horizontal line in the body work.  When I got my car it came from another dealer with retarded stripes that I had removed, due to the fact that they didn't actually match any on line on the car.