It's time for new tires soon, and I want to find something that's good all around for a decent price. Tire size is 225/45/17.
Right now, I'm looking mostly at the Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grids.
Also, a friend of mine runs General Exclaim UHPs on his M3; ultra high performance summer tires. He runs them in the winter too, and says he has no problems. He swears by them. Any info?
All suggestions welcome guys. I won't be able to run a second set of wheels and snow tires this year, so consider that please.
I've been interested in the Generals for a while, but lack of the load rating I want has caused me to cross them off my list. They seem like a good tire though. I mounted a set of truck tires back in the Summer and was impressed with the construction and lack of balancing required.
Per Tirerack:
The Exclaim UHP is General Tire's Ultra High Performance Summer tire that was developed for the drivers of sports cars, coupes and sedans. While meeting minimum tread design standards to be "M+S" branded, the Exclaim UHP is designed to provide high levels of traction, response and control in dry conditions, along with superior hydroplaning resistance in wet conditions. We do not suggest Exclaim UHP tires be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.
The Exclaim UHP uses a 2nd generation, ultra high performance silica compound molded into a directional tread design that features wide, solid shoulder tread blocks and a high-tech contour to combine responsive handling with dry traction. Its Double-V directional tread pattern enhances wet performance. Together, the tread compound and design help sweep water away from between the tire?s contact patch and the road to improve wet grip while reducing the possibility of hydroplaning. The tire?s internal structure includes twin steel belts reinforced by spirally wound jointless nylon on top of polyester body plies to combine responsive handling and cornering stability with high-speed durability.
Yeah, your friend might have good luck with it in the snow but if you want an all-season tire I'd look elsewhere personally. Unless of course you want to get a set of steelies with snows mounted to them. That way you have the best of both worlds, tire-wise.
Quote from: R-inge on October 16, 2009, 03:13:25 PM
Yeah, your friend might have good luck with it in the snow but if you want an all-season tire I'd look elsewhere personally. Unless of course you want to get a set of steelies with snows mounted to them. That way you have the best of both worlds, tire-wise.
He's running an E46 M3; if he doesn't have problems, I don't know why I would. I ran through some of the reviews, and many of them mentioned that they have surprising grip in the wet.
I thought we already agreed on Potenzas
Quote from: NACar on October 16, 2009, 03:20:08 PM
I thought we already agreed on Potenzas
Yeah, I was set on them, but my friend with the M3 keeps pushing Generals. And they're $27 cheaper per corner.
Quote from: Raza on October 16, 2009, 03:18:42 PM
He's running an E46 M3; if he doesn't have problems, I don't know why I would. I ran through some of the reviews, and many of them mentioned that they have surprising grip in the wet.
Do whatever you think is best. I just prefer to run snows in the winter and summers or at least more three-season oriented tires in the summer. A lot of it would depend on how bad the snow days are where you're at, and whether you're allowed to call in due to weather.
Get snows and summers like they do in your car's homeland.
I've recommended before and stand by it 100%- Continental Extremecontact. WE're running them on all our patrol cars now from Nov. until snow goes away. Excellent snow tire in disguise of a performance tire. I think the ones we run are W rated but I can't remember.
Quote from: rohan on October 18, 2009, 02:35:28 PM
I've recommended before and stand by it 100%- Continental Extremecontact. WE're running them on all our patrol cars now from Nov. until snow goes away. Excellent snow tire in disguise of a performance tire. I think the ones we run are W rated but I can't remember.
I'll look into those as well.
Does anyone know about Hankook R-S2s? They're on closeout because they've been replaced, and they're $78 a corner. Another friend recommends them highly.
Summer's around the corner, which means a good 5 months of clear weather.
Also, my passenger front was flat as the midwest this morning and I spent Sunday night hydroplaning down the turnpike, so I really do think it's time. The Generals are out, I'm leaning towards something Bridgestone or Continental. I'll be buying this week (possibly tomorrow, depending on how well Fix-a-Flat holds up through the day today). Suggestions? Price isn't that much of an issue, but I'd like to be under $130 a tire.
Look at Yokohamas
Quote from: EtypeJohn on April 27, 2010, 06:35:16 AM
Look at Yokohamas
After my experience with my Advan S4s I'm going to have to disagree with that.
I love the tires, but despite having them balanced and re-balanced several times (3 different balancers) they have a minor vibration that comes and goes and changes slightly, but they are never 100% smooth. I even had two of them replaced under warranty and still have the issue.
Next time its probably going to be one of the Potenzas for me.
S-Drives or P-Zero Nero's would be a good all season choice...
Quote from: r0tor on April 27, 2010, 07:36:33 AM
S-Drives or P-Zero Nero's would be a good all season choice...
Are Pirellis really worth it? They look to be $140+ on TireRack (and of course installation is going to be like $80 on top of that), and I know they're very exotic sounding and all, but are they worth the premium over Bridgestones or Continentals?
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on April 27, 2010, 07:16:29 AM
After my experience with my Advan S4s I'm going to have to disagree with that.
I love the tires, but despite having them balanced and re-balanced several times (3 different balancers) they have a minor vibration that comes and goes and changes slightly, but they are never 100% smooth. I even had two of them replaced under warranty and still have the issue.
Next time its probably going to be one of the Potenzas for me.
Don't know what to tell you. I've never had a problem in the 3-4 sets I've bought in the past 5-6 years.
Continental ExtremeContact DWS (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DWS&partnum=245WR7ECDWS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Volkswagen&autoYear=2008&autoModel=Jetta%20Sedan&autoModClar=Wolfsburg%20Edition)
I've heard very good things about this tire. As of two months ago, it is available in my car's tire size, so that's what I'll be likely getting.
Quote from: EtypeJohn on April 27, 2010, 11:27:06 AM
Don't know what to tell you. I've never had a problem in the 3-4 sets I've bought in the past 5-6 years.
I don't doubt you for a second, just that my experience has soured me on the brand as a whole.
The only good thing that has come out of the experience was that I finally found a tire shop where the guys aren't hacks.
I've been looking at the General UHP's as well. Seems like a good bang for your buck and IIRC, the treadlife rating on those is a lot higher than anything else in its price range (in terms of summer/performance tires)
Check out the Sumitomo HTR Z III. I'm considering them for my Goat, and they're just a tad over $100 per tire from Tire Rack, plus shipping.
Tire Rack gave it a really good review.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on April 27, 2010, 02:08:57 PM
I don't doubt you for a second, just that my experience has soured me on the brand as a whole.
The only good thing that has come out of the experience was that I finally found a tire shop where the guys aren't hacks.
That in itself is a major achievement these days. :ohyeah:
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on April 27, 2010, 02:08:57 PM
I don't doubt you for a second, just that my experience has soured me on the brand as a whole.
The only good thing that has come out of the experience was that I finally found a tire shop where the guys aren't hacks.
I'm the same way with Michelins. I've never had a good set, but I know people who swear by them.
Quote from: The Pirate on April 27, 2010, 11:30:23 AM
Continental ExtremeContact DWS (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+DWS&partnum=245WR7ECDWS&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Volkswagen&autoYear=2008&autoModel=Jetta%20Sedan&autoModClar=Wolfsburg%20Edition)
I've heard very good things about this tire. As of two months ago, it is available in my car's tire size, so that's what I'll be likely getting.
Some friends of mine have them on their C70. Excellent tires, they say.
Quote from: Raza on April 27, 2010, 03:35:54 PM
I'm the same way with Michelins. I've never had a good set, but I know people who swear by them.
Yeah, I've never had a bad set (even the stockies on the Acura), but they cost too much. Same with Bridgestone, although they're a bit less expensive.
1. Don't put fix-a-flat in your tire unless it's a real emergency...
2. Potenzas
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 27, 2010, 03:56:34 PM
1. Don't put fix-a-flat in your tire unless it's a real emergency...
2. Potenzas
How 'bout dat green slime shit???????????
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 27, 2010, 04:03:19 PM
How 'bout dat green slime shit???????????
Meh. If you're changing tires, it's basically mandatory for shops to replace your in-wheel TPMS sensors, but all that gooey slimey shit may really fuck them up in the mean time.
Quote from: giant_mtb on April 27, 2010, 04:03:19 PM
How 'bout dat green slime shit???????????
good for bikes.
Cars are not bikes.
Quote from: AutobahnSHO on April 27, 2010, 08:26:46 PM
good for bikes.
Cars are not bikes.
No, no. The mechanic at the LBS will hate you if you use slime in your bike tires and he has to change a flat (as will happen eventually). If you change them yourself, then it's cool. But that crap is stanky when it's been inside a tube and it gets everywhere.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20213.msg1316142#msg1316142 date=1272404154
I'm the same way with Michelins. I've never had a good set, but I know people who swear by them.
Our 07 Mazda6 came with Michelins. They've been very good for the 30K miles we have on the car. I expect they will last another 15K before I replace them. Michelins are good, but very pricy. Equal tires can be had for less, IMHO.
Quote from: The Pirate on April 27, 2010, 10:25:11 PM
No, no. The mechanic at the LBS will hate you if you use slime in your bike tires and he has to change a flat (as will happen eventually). If you change them yourself, then it's cool. But that crap is stanky when it's been inside a tube and it gets everywhere.
I'd use that green slime stuff in trailer tires and that's it. And then only because trailer flats are a royal pain in the neck.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 27, 2010, 04:07:13 PM
Meh. If you're changing tires, it's basically mandatory for shops to replace your in-wheel TPMS sensors
no, not rly
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20213.msg1315922#msg1315922 date=1272387186
Are Pirellis really worth it? They look to be $140+ on TireRack (and of course installation is going to be like $80 on top of that), and I know they're very exotic sounding and all, but are they worth the premium over Bridgestones or Continentals?
My P-Zero M+S tires have served me well though I don't think their snow traction is worth a damn. They got noisy due to driving a few hundred miles with too many people and or things in the back causing camber wear issues, but they grip like mad in the dry and do ok in the rain as well. Also, price-wise I think they were no different if not cheaper than the Bridgestones and Bitchelins.
Like I said in another thread, next set will probably be S.Drives since they are supposedly a bit quieter than other summer performance tires, if not the grippiest.
Quote from: r0tor on April 28, 2010, 09:19:32 AM
no, not rly
:hesaid:
Only if they break them should you have to replace them.
Quote from: R-inge on April 28, 2010, 04:34:41 PM
:hesaid:
Only if they break them should you have to replace them.
Where I worked (Walmart :rolleyes:) the customer had to sign a release of liability waiver form thing (which none of them ever wanted to sign) to NOT have their TPMS sensors replaced if we dismounted a tire. I'm not sure if it was just a Walmart or a state thing, but it was a thing.
Probably Wally World covering their asses in case one of their guys broke one.
Quote from: R-inge on April 28, 2010, 05:48:29 PM
Probably Wally World covering their asses in case one of their guys broke one.
From the horror stories of wallymart "techs", I would be surprised if they didn't break one...or a few.
Even the good techs occasionally screw up and break them, so I wouldn't doubt it.
I'd take it elsewhere. If that shit breaks when getting the tires changed, then it's on you. I don't know how much it is to replace it, but I bet it isn't cheap.
I wonder if CostCo operates that way?
Fuck me, I need to order tires today. And pay my cell phone bill. But that's another problem.
In other news, the air is holding in the tire, but I'm getting an awful lot of vibration when accelerating at higher speeds, and even when just cruising at highway speed, there's a bit of a wobble, and you can feel the splashiness in the steering. I think I might just have to go to my Bridgestone place near me and see if they can change the tires on Saturday. Frankly, I'm not all that comfortable driving on the highway with it, and my indecisiveness as to what rubber to buy has wasted a lot of time.
What do you guys think of the Pirelli PZero Nero All Season ($147) or the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position ($155)? Those are the two I'm thinking of most seriously.
EDIT: My friend also told me to check out the Falken ZE-912. Heard anything about them? Falken isn't sold on TireRack, so it's kind of hard to get an idea of how well they perform.
alot of rx8 owners have been happy with the pzero nero all season... well except for the goon that wanted to go autox-ing in them
Quote from: Raza on April 30, 2010, 06:11:42 AM
EDIT: My friend also told me to check out the Falken ZE-912. Heard anything about them? Falken isn't sold on TireRack, so it's kind of hard to get an idea of how well they perform.
I have them. They are grippy but terrible in snow. I convert to Conti snows in the winter.
I have a vibration problem, but I'm not convinced it's not the car as this happened when the previous set got older too.
Quote from: Raza on April 30, 2010, 06:11:42 AM
In other news, the air is holding in the tire, but I'm getting an awful lot of vibration when accelerating at higher speeds, and even when just cruising at highway speed, there's a bit of a wobble, and you can feel the splashiness in the steering. I think I might just have to go to my Bridgestone place near me and see if they can change the tires on Saturday. Frankly, I'm not all that comfortable driving on the highway with it, and my indecisiveness as to what rubber to buy has wasted a lot of time.
What do you guys think of the Pirelli PZero Nero All Season ($147) or the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position ($155)? Those are the two I'm thinking of most seriously.
EDIT: My friend also told me to check out the Falken ZE-912. Heard anything about them? Falken isn't sold on TireRack, so it's kind of hard to get an idea of how well they perform.
Bridgestones. No joke.
I just had a set of HTR Z III's installed. Will let you know how they work, but on the drive back home, they felt really nice.
Worth a look, Raza.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+Z+III (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+Z+III)
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20213.msg1318169#msg1318169 date=1272629502
In other news, the air is holding in the tire, but I'm getting an awful lot of vibration when accelerating at higher speeds, and even when just cruising at highway speed, there's a bit of a wobble, and you can feel the splashiness in the steering. I think I might just have to go to my Bridgestone place near me and see if they can change the tires on Saturday. Frankly, I'm not all that comfortable driving on the highway with it, and my indecisiveness as to what rubber to buy has wasted a lot of time.
What do you guys think of the Pirelli PZero Nero All Season ($147) or the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position ($155)? Those are the two I'm thinking of most seriously.
EDIT: My friend also told me to check out the Falken ZE-912. Heard anything about them? Falken isn't sold on TireRack, so it's kind of hard to get an idea of how well they perform.
Falken's are available on Discount Tire's website and they're great tires. I'm driving across the border tomorrow to get a new set of Dunlop Direzza DZ101 installed on the SVTF. I got them to drop their price to $90 a tire. All the reviews are excellent for the tire so I'm pretty confident they'll be good.
(http://www.cartech.net.nz/selfservice/datastore/183.jpg)
Quote from: Raza on April 30, 2010, 06:11:42 AM
In other news, the air is holding in the tire, but I'm getting an awful lot of vibration when accelerating at higher speeds, and even when just cruising at highway speed, there's a bit of a wobble, and you can feel the splashiness in the steering. I think I might just have to go to my Bridgestone place near me and see if they can change the tires on Saturday. Frankly, I'm not all that comfortable driving on the highway with it, and my indecisiveness as to what rubber to buy has wasted a lot of time.
What do you guys think of the Pirelli PZero Nero All Season ($147) or the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position ($155)? Those are the two I'm thinking of most seriously.
EDIT: My friend also told me to check out the Falken ZE-912. Heard anything about them? Falken isn't sold on TireRack, so it's kind of hard to get an idea of how well they perform.
Find that air and put it back in.
bridgestones
Hmm...the Continental ExtremeContact DWS has the highest rating of the high/ultra-high performance all seasons on TireRack. 8.7 even surpasses the RE960ASs (8.2) for $40 less per corner. Thoughts?
EDIT: Apparently some people notice less crisp steering feel when coming from other tires, but I don't that will be an issue coming from my shittastic Michelins.
Quote from: Raza on May 03, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
Hmm...the Continental ExtremeContact DWS has the highest rating of the high/ultra-high performance all seasons on TireRack. 8.7 even surpasses the RE960ASs (8.2) for $40 less per corner. Thoughts?
What rating category are you looking at, because I don't see those numbers anywhere. The Bridgestones are placed #3 overall, but their ratings have 12-times more miles than the top two tires, and Bridgestone fucking rocks, so... yeah. Man, it would suck for me if you got the Bridgestones and they were just crap. I'm sure they're both good.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 03, 2010, 01:09:21 PM
What rating category are you looking at, because I don't see those numbers anywhere. The Bridgestones are placed #3 overall, but their ratings have 12-times more miles than the top two tires, and Bridgestone fucking rocks, so... yeah. Man, it would suck for me if you got the Bridgestones and they were just crap. I'm sure they're both good.
I was looking at the user ratings.
Man $620 before installation is a lot to drop on tires. But then again, they are an incredibly important component, and it's not you buy tires every six months or anything. My shitty fucking Michelins lasted nearly two years and it would cost just as much or more to replace them with the same shitty fucking Michelins.
Again, reading a more reviews on the Continentals, I'm not happy with the way even positive reviews mention that the steering feel suffers with them on the wheels. They're out.
Well, if you don't want to spend $620 (+shipping?), you can get tires in that size for about $50 a piece. :lol:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 03, 2010, 01:30:11 PM
Well, if you don't want to spend $620 (+shipping?), you can get tires in that size for about $50 a piece. :lol:
I'm seeing a few complaints about soft sidewalls again messing with steering feel. But then again, user reviews are always a crapshoot.
Quote from: The Phantom on April 27, 2010, 02:31:29 PM
Check out the Sumitomo HTR Z III. I'm considering them for my Goat, and they're just a tad over $100 per tire from Tire Rack, plus shipping.
Tire Rack gave it a really good review.
I got those and they've been great, much better than my stock set of tires.
The Pirellis, while having a lower overall score in the user reviews, seem to have fewer negative reviews than the Bridgestones...it also looks like the people buying the Pirellis had or are looking at the Bridgestones as well.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on May 03, 2010, 02:46:47 PM
I got those and they've been great, much better than my stock set of tires.
I just saw them as well. At that price, I'm seriously considering them.
I got ripped off on my tires, damn, I paid $947 for a set of 4 + instillation.
Those Dunlop Direzza's that I posted earlier are awesome. Much better then the Continental ContiSportContact3 that came with my car. Very very impressed, and I paid $462 for all 4 mounted and balanced.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on May 03, 2010, 03:42:16 PM
I got ripped off on my tires, damn, I paid $947 for a set of 4 + instillation.
Out the door, I paid $603 with an alignment. I do believe mine are wider than yours, but maybe not. Mine are 245/45-17.
But so far, I'm enjoying them a lot.
Quote from: Raza on May 03, 2010, 03:17:43 PM
I just saw them as well. At that price, I'm seriously considering them.
I had a buddy go to his buddy at the tire place and tell him I can get them for $104 plus shipping. The tire place pretty much matched the price with installation and tax.
Not saying you can or can't do that, but definitely look into the tires. They're Max Performance.
Quote from: SVT666 on May 03, 2010, 07:58:24 PM
Those Dunlop Direzza's that I posted earlier are awesome. Much better then the Continental ContiSportContact3 that came with my car. Very very impressed, and I paid $462 for all 4 mounted and balanced.
The Direzzas are summer only, though, right? I'm not ready to go that route.
Quote from: Raza on May 04, 2010, 10:57:16 AM
The Direzzas are summer only, though, right? I'm not ready to go that route.
Correct.
Have you looked at the Kumho Ecsta ASX? It's a pretty decent tire, and priced well. I was happy with them.
Quote from: The Phantom on May 03, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
I had a buddy go to his buddy at the tire place and tell him I can get them for $104 plus shipping. The tire place pretty much matched the price with installation and tax.
Not saying you can or can't do that, but definitely look into the tires. They're Max Performance.
The tires I'm looking at are Sumitomo HTR A/S P01 (W), a new line, apparently. They're Ultra High Performance A/S tires that don't have the best treadwear rating (360, though I'm told that number is not that important since it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer) but at $89 a pop, it's not so bad.
Quote from: The Pirate on May 04, 2010, 11:03:25 AM
Correct.
Have you looked at the Kumho Ecsta ASX? It's a pretty decent tire, and priced well. I was happy with them.
I've thought about them, but generally the best thing I've ever heard about Kumhos is that they're cheap.
Quote from: Raza on May 04, 2010, 11:03:31 AM
The tires I'm looking at are Sumitomo HTR A/S P01 (W), a new line, apparently. They're Ultra High Performance A/S tires that don't have the best treadwear rating (360, though I'm told that number is not that important since it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer) but at $89 a pop, it's not so bad.
Just pulled the trigger. I'm having them shipped directly to the recommended installer, too, so I'll have them on the car by the end of the week.
Hey, that's cheap. I had Sumitomos HTR something's on my old Civic, and it did good. Won a few autocrosses, anyway, and they didn't chunk like my Falkens.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 04, 2010, 11:34:37 AM
Hey, that's cheap. I had Sumitomos HTR something's on my old Civic, and it did good. Won a few autocrosses, anyway, and they didn't chunk like my Falkens.
Yeah, it's not bad. $89 per tire, $41 shipping, and $30 per tire for install.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20213.msg1320431#msg1320431 date=1272995379
Yeah, it's not bad. $89 per tire, $41 shipping, and $30 per tire for install.
$30 a tire for install??? I paid $12.50 a tire. That's a pricey install.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20213.msg1320400#msg1320400 date=1272992236
The Direzzas are summer only, though, right? I'm not ready to go that route.
Yeah, but for the price of the Direzzas here in Canada, I can buy a set of Direzzas and a set of winters in the US. :lol:
Quote from: SVT666 on May 04, 2010, 12:11:23 PM
$30 a tire for install??? I paid $12.50 a tire. That's a pricey install.
Yeah, I just paid $55 for four tires mounted and balanced with new valve stems, and disposing of two tires. $30 each is crazy.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 04, 2010, 12:13:52 PM
Yeah, I just paid $55 for four tires mounted and balanced with new valve stems, and disposing of two tires. $30 each is crazy.
It's beyond crazy. It's a total ripoff is what it is.
Quote from: SVT666 on May 04, 2010, 12:11:23 PM
$30 a tire for install??? I paid $12.50 a tire. That's a pricey install.
$20 for mount and balance. $5 for TPMS. $2 for the valve stems. $3.50 for the disposal fee.
It does seem a bit pricey, but when I had that blowout a year or so ago, the install was like $22 at a Sam's Club, so this didn't seem out of line.
Quote from: Raza on May 04, 2010, 01:29:14 PM
$20 for mount and balance. $5 for TPMS. $2 for the valve stems. $3.50 for the disposal fee.
It does seem a bit pricey, but when I had that blowout a year or so ago, the install was like $22 at a Sam's Club, so this didn't seem out of line.
Walmart does the mount, balance, valve stem and disposal for $15 each, and TPMS varies. I'm not saying you should go to Walmart, but maybe shop around a bit.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 04, 2010, 01:47:01 PM
Walmart does the mount, balance, valve stem and disposal for $15 each, and TPMS varies. I'm not saying you should go to Walmart, but maybe shop around a bit.
Too late for that. I shipped it straight to them through TireRack. They're a recommended installer and they're 5 minutes from my house. They called and confirmed already.
I'll eat it this time, I guess.
Quote from: Raza on May 04, 2010, 02:40:11 PM
Too late for that. I shipped it straight to them through TireRack. They're a recommended installer and they're 5 minutes from my house. They called and confirmed already.
I'll eat it this time, I guess.
Eat it!
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Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 04, 2010, 03:08:18 PM
Eat it!
(http://everseradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/weird-al-6.jpg)
That's FAT not EAT IT.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 04, 2010, 01:47:01 PM
Walmart does the mount, balance, valve stem and disposal for $15 each, and TPMS varies. I'm not saying you should go to Walmart, but maybe shop around a bit.
I just got 8 wheels done at Firestone for $142.
Most places charge more to mount low profile tires. Mine were about $100 for the installation, $25 per tire.
Quote from: The Phantom on May 04, 2010, 09:12:34 PM
Most places charge more to mount low profile tires. Mine were about $100 for the installation, $25 per tire.
Mine are Z-Rated 45 series 17" tires and it was $12.50 per tire.
Quote from: The Phantom on May 04, 2010, 09:12:34 PM
Most places charge more to mount low profile tires. Mine were about $100 for the installation, $25 per tire.
same here... its gets pricier at most places when you get into the 18"+ range. I paid a few more bucks per tire because I went to a quality shop that I knew wasn't going to scratch the shit out of my wheels (i've heard many horror stories and my mechanic friend even refused to do it at his shop because their machines dont treat 18's very nicely)
Quote from: The Phantom on May 04, 2010, 09:12:34 PM
Most places charge more to mount low profile tires. Mine were about $100 for the installation, $25 per tire.
Yeah, it is more because they're 45s.
I went to a local tire shop (they're known to be cheapest around, and I went with a guy who's been going to the shop for years so they give him awesome prices), asked about a set of the Ventus v12 Evo or whatever they're called, he wanted about $850 taxes in and everything included. TR has the same tires for $92/tire I think. As much as I want to give him my business, this is ridiculous.
Quote from: SVT_Power on May 05, 2010, 06:40:48 PM
I went to a local tire shop (they're known to be cheapest around, and I went with a guy who's been going to the shop for years so they give him awesome prices), asked about a set of the Ventus v12 Evo or whatever they're called, he wanted about $850 taxes in and everything included. TR has the same tires for $92/tire I think. As much as I want to give him my business, this is ridiculous.
That's why I went acrosss the border.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20213.msg1321245#msg1321245 date=1273100853
Yeah, it is more because they're 45s.
Mine are 45s too.
When I looked at the list of installers from Tire Rack, most of them charged a good $10 more per tire for low pros. Maybe it's an American thing.
Quote from: The Phantom on May 05, 2010, 08:28:12 PM
When I looked at the list of installers from Tire Rack, most of them charged a good $10 more per tire for low pros. Maybe it's an American thing.
I got mine installed in the US. I think he's being charged $30 a tire because he didn't buy the tires from them. But even up here in Canuckistan I only pay $18 a tire and I didn't buy the tires from them either.
Quote from: SVT666 on May 06, 2010, 09:14:11 AM
I got mine installed in the US. I think he's being charged $30 a tire because he didn't buy the tires from them. But even up here in Canuckistan I only pay $18 a tire and I didn't buy the tires from them either.
The standard fee is $15--they list the price breakdown on the website so you can look before you choose an installer. It's $20 because they're low profile, and then TPMS adds to the cost. Disposal and valve stems are going to be at any place.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=20213.msg1321618#msg1321618 date=1273168856
The standard fee is $15--they list the price breakdown on the website so you can look before you choose an installer. It's $20 because they're low profile, and then TPMS adds to the cost. Disposal and valve stems are going to be at any place.
I've never had to deal with TPMS before so that could very well be the reason.
I just looked at my receipt for the exact breakdown on what I paid.
Tires = $368 ($92 each)
Environmental Fee $4 ($1 each)
Disposal $10 ($2.50 each)
Mounting and Balancing $56 ($12.50 + $1.50 each for stems)
Taxes $35.15
Total = $473.15
The tires I have are $91 on TR. IIRC, they were in the high 80s a couple of years ago when I bought them. I paid just under $100 each (before taxes) for the tires, mounting and balancing at a local tire shop. Granted, they didn't balance them the first time and I had to take it back to have them rebalanced a week later. And when I checked the lug torques (both after the install and after they "rebalanced" them) a few lugs were barely finger tight and others were over-torqued. And they were inflated beyond the max pressure rating of the tire (and a good 15-20 psi above what they should have been inflated to per the little sticker in the car). So I guess you get what you pay for to some degree....
Quote from: The Phantom on May 05, 2010, 08:28:12 PM
When I looked at the list of installers from Tire Rack, most of them charged a good $10 more per tire for low pros. Maybe it's an American thing.
The installers around here charge extra for lightweight rims, and to dispose of the old tires!
They're on. Happy with them so far, and they're not even broken in yet!