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Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on June 20, 2005, 09:26:08 PM
Part 1: Making Money
So I can afford shipping a JDM B20A engine and transmission along with a B20A5 ECU and Exedy clutch.

So, I sold the engine of my parts car to some ricer here in winnipeg who blew his engine for $300.
Today, I started the removal, and tommorow I will continue it.

When I arrived:
(http://img205.echo.cx/img205/3636/dscn14064wu.jpg)
Getting to work:
(http://img187.echo.cx/img187/9130/dscn14089cw.jpg)
Why the holes for the spark plugs are full of oil:
(http://img165.echo.cx/img165/3638/dscn14094am.jpg)
(http://img133.echo.cx/img133/8534/dscn14109gr.jpg)
Some progress:
(http://img242.echo.cx/img242/1954/dscn14111yh.jpg)
(http://img29.echo.cx/img29/6882/dscn14120gw.jpg)

Yay, fog lights in good condition. These are going on my car.
(http://img29.echo.cx/img29/7164/dscn14132at.jpg)

End of the day:
(http://img201.echo.cx/img201/1246/dscn14232sl.jpg)

Closed up just before going home:
(http://img140.echo.cx/img140/1619/dscn14243fd.jpg)


My car:
(http://img73.echo.cx/img73/2839/dscn14194hg.jpg)
My dad showed up just as I was going to leave. Here's our van:
(http://img155.echo.cx/img155/751/dscn14218aw.jpg)
Notice the pimpin' rimz.B)
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: 280Z Turbo on June 20, 2005, 09:52:40 PM
Pulling out a FWD drivetrain is not something I wanted to do. That's why I junked the Saab.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on June 20, 2005, 10:27:22 PM
This is a good pic of what I started out with:
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/790000-790999/790231_3_full.jpg)
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: 280Z Turbo on June 20, 2005, 10:36:53 PM
It was worse with the Saab. It had turbo piping to make way for. I took plenty of crap off of the engine and it still was nowhere near ready to come out. That's the problem with FWD. EVERYTHING has gotta come out.

The Z, on the other hand, was straightforward. Disconnect your wires, tubes, hoses, etc. Undo some bolts and lift 'er up.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: 850CSi on June 20, 2005, 10:44:32 PM
Nice work, Ben.

And YOUR 'Lude is looking very nice...
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: SargeMonkey on June 21, 2005, 12:41:28 AM
On my civic thers four bolts that hold the engine/tranny to the car, and some hoses and wires. Not much holding back a woping 68(when new) horse power.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Tom on June 21, 2005, 09:20:48 AM
That looks like a bitch, Ben.  If you accepted $250 for it but agreed the ricer would have to take it out himself do you think he would have accepted not knowing all the work it would take?

Those Preludes have a nice, clean design to them BTW.  Not flashy but still sleek and agressive.  Kind of like notchback 240sx.

Looks like you're making a pretty penny off of this parts car.  Are the seats in good shape.  You could make a good deal with them.  And the tires/wheels too if you don't mind putting it on blocks...
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Fire It Up on June 21, 2005, 01:09:18 PM
I should try this later and see if I get some money.  
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on June 21, 2005, 09:35:40 PM
Front Bumper and rad off
(http://img262.echo.cx/img262/4529/dscn14254xl.jpg)

Rad
(http://img218.echo.cx/img218/9916/dscn14267vg.jpg)

Engine Bay
(http://img218.echo.cx/img218/3783/dscn14278gu.jpg)
(http://img265.echo.cx/img265/3932/dscn14342vr.jpg)

The reach to loosen P/S tensioner bolt
(http://img133.echo.cx/img133/9229/dscn14386vr.jpg)

A/C Condender out. Big ass mofo.
(http://img287.echo.cx/img287/4010/dscn14395kj.jpg)

Where the condenser was
(http://img220.echo.cx/img220/120/dscn14409ty.jpg)

P/S pump out
(http://img140.echo.cx/img140/1629/dscn14417jt.jpg)

Engine Bay
(http://img220.echo.cx/img220/346/dscn14426qm.jpg)

Took off the hood
(http://img172.echo.cx/img172/4632/dscn14438vj.jpg)

Alternator out
(http://img208.echo.cx/img208/8039/dscn14445og.jpg)

Top half of intake mani out
(http://img273.echo.cx/img273/8674/dscn14463nz.jpg)
(http://img25.echo.cx/img25/7960/dscn14472gw.jpg)
(http://img172.echo.cx/img172/690/dscn14485nw.jpg)

Engine Bay
(http://img164.echo.cx/img164/8600/dscn14493ag.jpg)

Anybody know what this is? Was in the rag I used to catch the fuel in the rail when I removed it
(http://img95.echo.cx/img95/4267/dscn14503qx.jpg)

Fuel Rail
(http://img212.echo.cx/img212/4245/dscn14515dl.jpg)

Injector. Anybody know how to remove the wirring to it? I tried prying and pulling while pushing in at various places....didn't work.
(http://img212.echo.cx/img212/9445/dscn14527kx.jpg)

Dropped the hood back on and called it a day
(http://img212.echo.cx/img212/9670/dscn14558ri.jpg)
(http://img215.echo.cx/img215/91/dscn14570as.jpg)

All I have left is I'm going to remove the rest of the intake mani, take off the axles and downpipe and I should be ready to pull.
I know I took alot more off that I needed to, but this way it's easier and it makes more room the less things are attached to it.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: 280Z Turbo on June 21, 2005, 09:56:57 PM
If that A/C compressor is big then mine must be a monster. It was hard to tell, but that doesn't look that big.

I'd keep the radiator in case yours ever leaks. The fan may be helpful as well to keep your car running cooler.

Your injector wires are not the quick release style, they're the wire locked kind. You need to pry away the wire off to release it. I usually use a small screwdriver.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: footoflead on June 24, 2005, 09:39:07 AM
Quote

Injector. Anybody know how to remove the wirring to it? I tried prying and pulling while pushing in at various places....didn't work.
(http://img212.echo.cx/img212/9445/dscn14527kx.jpg)

i think i see how to take it off.....look at the injector in the pic....follow the wire to the plastic connecter...you should see a little gap towards the end of the plastic that looks like you can stick a small screw driver in...that should relese the wire from the injector...

Hope this helps...i know i didnt explain it very well but i think this might help you

post if you get'em off
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: TBR on June 24, 2005, 09:56:40 AM
Does the AC condensor work? You could probably get at least $150 for it.  
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on June 24, 2005, 04:03:46 PM
I'm pretty sure it worked, I only tested it during winter, but the green light was light up (if something doesn't work, the light turns red).
I'm probably just going to sell the seats and pillage the suspension and brakes then drop it off at the junkyard.
The suspension I can clean up and maybe powdercoat or paint then install in my car, the brakes I'll bring in as cores when I buy some new rebuilt ones.

FOL: I know how to get the injector off, I'm part of many forums, some of which are Prelude specific, and as I have posted this thread in almost all of them that question has been answered many times, but thanks! :D  
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: TBR on June 24, 2005, 04:10:19 PM
QuoteDoes the AC condensor work? You could probably get at least $150 for it.
I meant compressor, though I am sure you figured that out.  
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 04, 2005, 08:34:26 PM
(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9655/dscn15282ue.jpg)
Getting started
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4961/dscn15302fv.jpg)
Axles off

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4738/dscn15369tb.jpg)
Got the hoist set up

Misc on the way out:
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2466/dscn15380us.jpg)
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5996/dscn15391mc.jpg)
(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6495/dscn15414mz.jpg)
(http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7194/dscn15425su.jpg)
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9916/dscn15436zt.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9715/dscn15440bg.jpg)
Free at last
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1021/dscn15453ml.jpg)
Finally empty
(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4946/dscn15480bm.jpg)
Dropping it into the trailer
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8504/dscn15498kx.jpg)
Engine in the trailer with the intake manifold and tranny off
(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4050/dscn15506fp.jpg)
Intake ports on the head
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5913/dscn15512rr.jpg)
Intake Manifold
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3077/dscn15526cq.jpg)
Tranny


It's finally out! Lots of bad weather and a full schedule kept me from getting it out sooner.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 04, 2005, 08:43:14 PM
Hmm, maybe I should resize them....
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 04, 2005, 11:19:20 PM
yes, you should.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 04, 2005, 11:20:12 PM
Why don't you take off all the body panels and sell them on ebay if they are in good condition?
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 05, 2005, 01:14:54 PM
The driver's side has a dent running along the whole car, the passenger side rear quarter has a bit of rust, as does the passenger side door.
The only good exterior panel is the pasenger side front fender, which I have almost sold already.
The trunk is in OK condition but it's got a bit of rust too.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 07, 2005, 07:44:15 PM
Put those foglights to good use and now my car has working foglights for the first since I bought the car.
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2825/dscn15654ma.jpg)

I also replaced my rusty bumper (no the cover, the actual metal part) because it was in REALLY bad shape. Nice and safe now. :praise:

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7157/dscn15541se.th.jpg) (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn15541se.jpg)
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 07, 2005, 10:49:40 PM
whore
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 07, 2005, 10:49:57 PM
woohoo! finally off that page!
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Fire It Up on July 08, 2005, 10:32:39 AM
What are you planning to do with your new parts car Ben?
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 08, 2005, 11:35:11 AM
Rebuild the engine and either use or sell the 4WS.
I'll be keeping the aluminum rims too, along with the tranny, ECU, front bumper and power locks.
Anything else that I havn't sold is going to the junkyard.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 08, 2005, 11:48:25 AM
QuoteRebuild the engine and either use or sell the 4WS.
I'll be keeping the aluminum rims too, along with the tranny, ECU, front bumper and power locks.
Anything else that I havn't sold is going to the junkyard.
why the rims? the ones on your regular car look much better.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 08, 2005, 12:06:18 PM
Because they'd make nice winter rims (I have a set of steelies but they're ugly) and they're free, plus they are super rare.
Those rims were only offered in 1988, only on the Prelude, and only on the 4WS versions.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 08, 2005, 12:07:29 PM
QuoteBecause they'd make nice winter rims (I have a set of steelies but they're ugly) and they're free, plus they are super rare.
Those rims were only offered in 1988, only on the Prelude, and only on the 4WS versions.
if they're super rare, then why use them as winter rims?
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 08, 2005, 12:16:45 PM
I'll keep the better looking rims for the summer, so that means the sawblades are my summer rims. If I can find a local buyer for these rims I could sell them, but that's unlikely as 3g Preludes are not that common, and while they are nice looking rims, they are nothing outstanding.

There will probably be a few people in the US that will want to buy thm but shipping would be very expensive and I don't want to mess with customs and packing them, etc.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 08, 2005, 12:40:18 PM
QuoteI'll keep the better looking rims for the summer, so that means the sawblades are my summer rims. If I can find a local buyer for these rims I could sell them, but that's unlikely as 3g Preludes are not that common, and while they are nice looking rims, they are nothing outstanding.

There will probably be a few people in the US that will want to buy thm but shipping would be very expensive and I don't want to mess with customs and packing them, etc.
or you could go ricer style and stick 2 of each kind on your car! :lol:  
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 08, 2005, 12:44:30 PM
Ricer style would be to buy 2 18" rims and put them on the rear wheels but leave the fronts stock and claim for them to be your "drag wheels".:P
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 08, 2005, 12:47:42 PM
QuoteRicer style would be to buy 2 18" rims and put them on the rear wheels but leave the fronts stock and claim for them to be your "drag wheels".:P
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Fire It Up on July 08, 2005, 12:54:03 PM
If you put on bigger wheels, are you gonna drop it?
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 08, 2005, 12:56:18 PM
QuoteIf you put on bigger wheels, are you gonna drop it?
i don't think Ben's a ricer....
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 08, 2005, 01:09:52 PM
I'll drop the car before I get new wheels, new wheels are very expensive.
If I do get wheels, I'll have to drop it because it'll look really stupidly high up, not to mention the huge wheel gap.

H&R Sport Drop Springs on the white one is what I'm looking to get in a few years:
(http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNTM5Njk3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg)

I really like those springs, but I might settle for Ground Control coilovers because winter driving would be horrible with a lowered car.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 08, 2005, 01:41:34 PM
QuoteI'll drop the car before I get new wheels, new wheels are very expensive.
If I do get wheels, I'll have to drop it because it'll look really stupidly high up, not to mention the huge wheel gap.

H&R Sport Drop Springs on the white one is what I'm looking to get in a few years:
(http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNTM5Njk3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg)

I really like those springs, but I might settle for Ground Control coilovers because winter driving would be horrible with a lowered car.
why don't you get the air bag suspension?
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 08, 2005, 01:50:41 PM
:blink:
Because the Prelude isn't a lowrider...
Air bags also don't help improve handling much either, plut they're expensive.
$260 US for the Ground Control coilovers, I would lower the car during the summer then in the winter I could raise it back to stock height.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 08, 2005, 01:52:15 PM
Quote:blink:
Because the Prelude isn't a lowrider...
Air bags also don't help improve handling much either, plut they're expensive.
$260 US for the Ground Control coilovers, I would lower the car during the summer then in the winter I could raise it back to stock height.
nvm... the ground control thingies do the same thing.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Fire It Up on July 08, 2005, 08:47:08 PM
In a few years?  
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 09, 2005, 01:55:30 PM
School is expensive, and work this summer is not working out.
I want more hours, they don't give me them, so I pick up other jobs, and they start interfering, etc..
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Fire It Up on July 09, 2005, 04:49:13 PM
You go to a private school?
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 09, 2005, 10:00:20 PM
No, I'm going to college next year.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 10, 2005, 12:02:03 AM
QuoteNo, I'm going to college next year.
you have to pay for it??
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Fire It Up on July 10, 2005, 07:45:09 AM
Quote
QuoteNo, I'm going to college next year.
you have to pay for it??
I guess he does.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 11, 2005, 12:58:26 PM
Not all of it, but I want to pay for as much as I can.

Unlika alot of people here, I work and manage my own money and buy all my own things. Parents just give me a monthly allowance for clothes, a little bit of spending money and other neccesities (sp) and I get to budget and use it as I want.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 11, 2005, 01:41:16 PM
QuoteNot all of it, but I want to pay for as much as I can.

Unlika alot of people here, I work and manage my own money and buy all my own things. Parents just give me a monthly allowance for clothes, a little bit of spending money and other neccesities (sp) and I get to budget and use it as I want.
I don't get an allowance for clothes or anything. it's just birthday or work money. Hell, i don't even have a car!
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 11, 2005, 01:43:25 PM
Yeah, but do your parents pay for your clothes? Your shoes? Your toiletries, your school outings and fees?
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 11, 2005, 01:55:02 PM
QuoteYeah, but do your parents pay for your clothes? Your shoes? Your toiletries, your school outings and fees?
yeah, but so do yours.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Run Away on July 11, 2005, 02:02:33 PM
Indirectly.
Like I said, I'm the one that manages all my money and purchases.
Say they give you $100 to buy any type of shoes you want.
Would you buy $30 cheap-o shoes and pocket the other $70 or spend it all on a good pair that will last 3 years?
I usually end up saving and only buying things when they are on sale or have a friend that works at the store and can give me a discount, etc.
Title: Project Prelude: Part 1 [56k - go change your oil]
Post by: Raghavan on July 11, 2005, 03:29:28 PM
QuoteIndirectly.
Like I said, I'm the one that manages all my money and purchases.
Say they give you $100 to buy any type of shoes you want.
Would you buy $30 cheap-o shoes and pocket the other $70 or spend it all on a good pair that will last 3 years?
I usually end up saving and only buying things when they are on sale or have a friend that works at the store and can give me a discount, etc.
see, it's much better for you. you can manage your money and buy whatever you want at whateever the price and pocket the rest, but i don't get extra money, and my parents just buy everything for me.