Quote from: Morris Minor on April 05, 2024, 08:45:55 AMI would not have believed this 18 months ago but now we're dipping our toes into the realm of embodied AI, I now think autonomous, or close to it, is achievable.

It is also achievable that I build a rocket and take it to the moon.  It's achievable, and possible, but that doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

Quote from: Morris Minor on April 05, 2024, 08:45:55 AMI would not have believed this 18 months ago but now we're dipping our toes into the realm of embodied AI, I now think autonomous, or close to it, is achievable.

How soon?  Want to put a fun wager on it?   

I would not have believed this 18 months ago but now we're dipping our toes into the realm of embodied AI, I now think autonomous, or close to it, is achievable.

Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 03, 2024, 09:18:46 PMSeems like most of the used Polestars were rental cars. Bleh

You can thank the Hertz CEO for driving Polestar prices into oblivion

He gave up his job for you!

Seems like most of the used Polestars were rental cars. Bleh

It was spelled "Galaxie" for some reason and IMO would have been a better name. 

Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 03, 2024, 09:29:33 AMThe Polestar's belt line is a bit high (especially in person) but otherwise a very clean design.

I wish Ford would have called the Mach E a Fusion or Galaxy instead, and toned down the Mustang details. It'd look much better without some of the forced Mustang stuff.

YES.

I can't understand why they wanted to alienate a bunch of long-term fans to try to market a new vehicle. They had ALL the car names available:
-Fusion
-Taurus
-Galaxy
-Probe
-Escort
-Flex

The Polestar's belt line is a bit high (especially in person) but otherwise a very clean design.

I wish Ford would have called the Mach E a Fusion or Galaxy instead, and toned down the Mustang details. It'd look much better without some of the forced Mustang stuff.

Quote from: ChrisV on April 03, 2024, 07:47:59 AMUm, no. It was all about Apple's autonomous driving that wasn't viable and what they wanted to work (and spent al the money on). EVs are still increasing in sales at least 50% year after year. They ARE a viable business, but autonomous driving is not. It also started the project in 2014 as an EV to Rival Tesla, then changed into and AD project, then very recently back into a Tesla fighter, but by then they had spent 10 billion on it. But, as the NYT has reported, "But it festered and ultimately fizzled in large part because developing the software and algorithms for a car with autonomous driving features proved too difficult."

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/technology/behind-the-apple-car-dead.html
 

I know you don't like EVs because you really don't know what you're talking about, but this really proves it.

Uff da - been a while since that exchange. Here, let me help you by rebaselining with facts (commentation):

1.) Autonomous doesn't work - Apple's flavor or otherwise (Kudos to Apple however for giving up on a pig-in-a-poke);
2.) Apple didn't try to "ground-up" an auto company (Kudos to Apple for planning to partner with a legacy automaker);
3.) EVs are not a viable business because automakers (GM, Ford, Rivian, Lucid, Toyota, etc.) tell you it's not a viable business (EV sales have increased but market share has dropped = viability not remotely close).

Quote from: CaminoRacer on April 02, 2024, 05:07:56 PMMy wife drives the Bolt to work. 6 mile roundtrip commute

I'm driving 60 miles a day so it'd be nice to have an EV for that, could save $100 in gas each month. Roadtrips might be a bit more tricky, but I've rented cars for trips before and it's not a big deal. With Tesla superchargers opening up next year, I don't think I'd even need to do that.

In that case, yes, get an EV. I think the Polestar 2 looks really good. No overwrought styling and good proportions. I'm not sure which is best of these three (they tested AWD version of Polestar 2) and which can be had for cheapest price:

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-tesla-model-3-highland-awd-vs-hyundai-ioniq-6-awd-polestar-2-awd-comparison-test-review/

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