Anyone use a lease broker before?

Started by MrH, June 08, 2021, 01:13:12 PM

JWC

My daughter's 2012 Focus did the trans-stumble on acceleration. I insisted on a fix before buying it. The dealership reflashed the PCM per a TSB (IIRC)---no problem for 100K. I didn't realize that so many were having internal trans problems.

r0tor

Our had the clutches replaced 2 or 3 times.  My mother in law's took a dump at least 4 times.  POS with no real fix
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee No Speed -- 2004 Mazda RX8 6 speed -- 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia All Speed

veeman


Galaxy

Quote from: veeman on June 11, 2021, 02:27:23 PM
It's because Ford used dry clutch technology, which didn't work.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/4243091002


The majority of dual clutch systems use dry clutch.

FoMoJo

Did this have anything to do with Getrag being sold to Magna?
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MX793

Quote from: Galaxy on June 11, 2021, 05:26:10 PM
The majority of dual clutch systems use dry clutch.

Most implementations are wet clutch.
Needs more Jiggawatts

2016 Ford Mustang GTPP / 2011 Toyota Rav4 Base AWD / 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ABS
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Galaxy

Quote from: MX793 on June 11, 2021, 06:40:55 PM
Most implementations are wet clutch.

Most VW ones that they put into the majority of their products are dry, except for the 1 gen one, and the high torque applications ones. i know Fiat has used dry ones as well.

MX793

Quote from: Galaxy on June 11, 2021, 07:21:35 PM
Most VW ones that they put into the majority of their products are dry, except for the 1 gen one, and the high torque applications ones. i know Fiat has used dry ones as well.

The DQ200 and 200e 7 speeds, used in their smaller, lower torque (<185 ft-lbs) engines, are dry.  The other 9 DSG transmissions VWAG uses are wet plate.  In terms of number of units sold, the dry plates may outsell the others, particularly in Europe, but in terms of implementation, there are more wet plate DCTs than dry.

VW doesn't sell the dry-plate boxes in the US since we don't get their smallest cars and our MQB cars are fitted with larger and more powerful engines than in Europe.  I think the 1.4T is the most potent engine that they can pair with the DQ200/e, and in the US our 1.4T Golf/Jetta uses an 8-speed Tiptronic instead of DSG.

To my knowledge, the only dry-plate DCTs being sold in the US market are the Ford PowerShift (now limited to the EcoSport since the Fiesta and Focus were discontinued in NA) and the Alfa 4C.
Needs more Jiggawatts

2016 Ford Mustang GTPP / 2011 Toyota Rav4 Base AWD / 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ABS
1992 Nissan 240SX Fastback / 2004 Mazda Mazda3s / 2011 Ford Mustang V6 Premium / 2007 Suzuki GSF1250SA Bandit / 2006 VW Jetta 2.5

CaminoRacer

I'm surprised my brother still has his Focus. It was great for the first few years but he has replaced the clutches at least once, probably needs to do it again.
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