...and as the shuttle driver is backing up:
(http://www.ferfolia.net/james/forumpics/05rolla/cstDSCN6828.jpg)
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Dealer has already agreed to pay for the repair, initial estimate, $850, pretty much all labour.
If she had used a bit better judgement parking her car in the first place (it wasn't in a "spot") well, anyway....
Which dealership is this? Weitzes?
oops!
at least theyre covering
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 26, 2007, 01:41:30 PM
Which dealership is this? Weitzes?
Huh?
Parkway Toyota on Centennial/Hwy 20.
Also, 'r0llas FTW! :rockon:
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on November 26, 2007, 01:46:12 PM
Huh?
Parkway Toyota on Centennial/Hwy 20.
I see. Never had experience with them. We've bought from Brimell Toyota, Erin Park Lexus Toyota, Georgetown Toyota, and most recently Woodbine.
I was a bit torn on whether or not I wanted them to foot the bill for a new fender.
New fender guarantees no fitment issues since they dont have to straighten it and shit, but introduces a color match issue because they have to paint the WHOLE fender then.
I think I've pretty much decided to just let them fix that one since they will only have to paint that corner.
On the bright side, the whole bumper has to be repainted so the scratches she got from a shopping cart a while back will be history.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 26, 2007, 01:46:18 PM
Also, 'r0llas FTW! :rockon:
Whatever Toyboat lover, the thing is boring as shit to drive. I guess that fits with the Toyota theme though :P
Even my mom wants a Civic again (had an '02 before this) after this car.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on November 26, 2007, 01:52:13 PM
Whatever Toyboat lover, the thing is boring as shit to drive. I guess that fits with the Toyota theme though :P
Even my mom wants a Civic again (had an '02 before this) after this car.
It's a horrible piece of shit, I agree. It's even worse than Nick's 'st33m. I'd rather drive a 'st33m than a 'r0lla because of the cargo room that fat bastard ha.s
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It's a horrible piece of shit, I agree. It's even worse than Nick's 'st33m. I'd rather drive a 'st33m than a 'r0lla because of the cargo room that fat bastard ha.s
I wouldn't go THAT far. It is a decent car for the most part, but it has ABSOLUTELY no intentions of being driven with any sort of aggressiveness.
One of the most annoying things about it is that the DBW SUCKS ASS. Every gear shift at anything over quarter throttle is accompanied by a rise in rpms as you clutch in. I've tried ALL sorts of timings while shifting and you just can not get around it.
DBW?
Someone did that to my Ranger a while ago. It annoyed me that they didn't bother to leave a note (so rude), but I could really care less. And before I bought it in May, someone backed into it and the box had to be repaired before I could buy it.
Ouch! While we're on the topic of stupid shuttle drivers... Working at a GM dealer while I was in high school, one of them drove his Montana off the road, parked it in someones veranda, then had the second story collapse onto him!
Quote from: Pancor on November 27, 2007, 05:59:49 AM
Ouch! While we're on the topic of stupid shuttle drivers... Working at a GM dealer while I was in high school, one of them drove his Montana off the road, parked it in someones veranda, then had the second story collapse onto him!
They had Montanas when you were in high school? :confused:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 06:57:46 AM
They had Montanas when you were in high school? :confused:
He's only 24. :huh:
Quote from: ifcar on November 27, 2007, 06:58:56 AM
He's only 24. :huh:
True. I just checked my Facebook. My bad :lol:
It's on his profile here.
Why isn't yours? :evildude:
Usually instead of a direct cable controlling the throttle body (TB), there is a sensor that looks at the gas pedal position and controls the TB via electronics.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 08:28:20 AM
I don't know what that is. :huh:
Like Champ said, there is no mechanical connection between the gas pedal and the throttle body butterfly.
While there are several drive-by-wire cars that pull this off near (or even completely) transparently (Acura NSX from day 1, Corvette starting with the C5, etc...), on regular cars it is configured more for mileage and emissions which has some pretty fucking annoying side effects.
Check youtube, there are lots of vids of the new Civic Si doing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbkkQ21Ea4&feature=related
I'd be happy with what the Si does compared to the Corolla. The Corollas revs actually rise a few hundred instead of just hang there.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on November 26, 2007, 01:39:01 PM
...and as the shuttle driver is backing up:
Dealer has already agreed to pay for the repair, initial estimate, $850, pretty much all labour.
If she had used a bit better judgement parking her car in the first place (it wasn't in a "spot") well, anyway....
its just a corolla tell her to ask for the money instead and bank it the car isn't worth fixing
Quote from: hellonwheels on November 27, 2007, 11:02:15 AM
its just a corolla tell her to ask for the money instead and bank it the car isn't worth fixing
Sup Carspin noob :P
I'll assume sarcasm as the car is just barely 2yrs old with 32,000kms on it.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on November 27, 2007, 12:12:48 PM
Sup Carspin noob :P
I'll assume sarcasm as the car is just barely 2yrs old with 32,000kms on it.
no assume the car isn't worth throwing $850 dollars into to make that part of the car look like new
who repairs corolla they are disposable cars use em up throw them away and buy another like brillo pads
Quote from: hellonwheels on November 27, 2007, 12:46:27 PM
no assume the car isn't worth throwing $850 dollars into to make that part of the car look like new
who repairs corolla they are disposable cars use em up throw them away and buy another like brillo pads
:confused:
What do YOU drive that makes Corollas look disposable!
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 12:48:13 PM
:confused:
What do YOU drive that makes Corollas look disposable!
A Yugo, probably.
Quote from: hellonwheels on November 27, 2007, 12:46:27 PM
no assume the car isn't worth throwing $850 dollars into to make that part of the car look like new
who repairs corolla they are disposable cars use em up throw them away and buy another like brillo pads
You wipe your ass with $100 bills don't you...
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on November 27, 2007, 01:04:23 PM
You wipe your ass with $100 bills don't you...
Sounds like a Camaro-driver, acutally.
Quote from: NACar on November 27, 2007, 01:05:39 PM
Sounds like a Camaro-driver, acutally.
Yeah, but its probably his dads Camaro.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 12:48:13 PM
:confused:
What do YOU drive that makes Corollas look disposable!
hark the king of toyota trolls has sallied forth with a query in a vain attempt to change the subject you should be cornhobbled for your wretched attempt
what vehicle i choose for my personal transportation of of little consequence with regard to this topic
in the realm of automobiles a corolla is a bottom feeder inexpensive transportation for those who neither like not understand the automobile corollas are bought with all the care and forethought that one spends when buying a new can opener or counter top mixer
when your toaster gets scratched do you rush out and get it repainted and buffed to like new condition of course you don't you live with the imperfection and use the appliance until it suffers a terminal fault
corollas are the same use it until it dies discard and buy another thats probably covered somewhere in the owners manual
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It's perceptive. I certainly treat my beater Corolla like it's disposable, but my friend (DodgeShadow on these forums) has a new 2007 Corolla CE with the SE package that's his first car in Canada that's not an old Voyager without a horn or a Shadow without a bumper. He babies it and thinks it's the nicest car ever.
Quote from: hellonwheels on November 27, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
hark the king of toyota trolls has sallied forth with a query in a vain attempt to change the subject you should be cornhobbled for your wretched attempt
what vehicle i choose for my personal transportation of of little consequence with regard to this topic
in the realm of automobiles a corolla is a bottom feeder inexpensive transportation for those who neither like not understand the automobile corollas are bought with all the care and forethought that one spends when buying a new can opener or counter top mixer
when your toaster gets scratched do you rush out and get it repainted and buffed to like new condition of course you don't you live with the imperfection and use the appliance until it suffers a terminal fault
corollas are the same use it until it dies discard and buy another thats probably covered somewhere in the owners manual
Based on his typing, I'm assuming that he's dyslexic, and owns a car that might, just might be worth less than a Corolla. I mean, he appears to be a worthless piece of crap, himself.
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 27, 2007, 02:09:41 PM
Based on his typing, I'm assuming that he's dyslexic, and owns a car that might, just might be worth less than a Corolla. I mean, he appears to be a worthless piece of crap, himself.
The 'r0lla's pretty tossable, so I wouldn't call it WORTHLESS. :lol:
Piece of crap, defs.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 02:12:15 PM
The 'r0lla's pretty tossable, so I wouldn't call it WORTHLESS. :lol:
Piece of crap, defs.
Oh man, you think that's tossable? Wait till you drive an A4. Holy shit, that car defines tossable. At least in a sedan.
Then again, I haven't driven a 3-series. My dad's 5er gives you confidence in the twisties, and it's handling is fantastic. It's just too heavyset to be tossable.
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 27, 2007, 02:13:48 PM
Oh man, you think that's tossable? Wait till you drive an A4. Holy shit, that car defines tossable. At least in a sedan.
I took a 0-60 video of the Accord. It's slower than you'd think :confused:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 02:19:40 PM
I took a 0-60 video of the Accord. It's slower than you'd think :confused:
..ok...
Post it.
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 27, 2007, 02:20:27 PM
..ok...
Post it.
When I get home tonight; my phone's in the car in the parking lot. :ohyeah:
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 02:21:27 PM
When I get home tonight; my phone's in the car in the parking lot. :ohyeah:
Dude, I really hope it isn't in plain sight. If not, I would be a little worried. Call me paranoid, but my friend left a discman on his dad's car's front seat, and it got broken into. That was a Discman, let alone a W810i.
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 27, 2007, 02:23:16 PM
Dude, I really hope it isn't in plain sight. If not, I would be a little worried. Call me paranoid, but my friend left a discman on his dad's car's front seat, and it got broken into. That was a Discman, let alone a W810i.
Whoever breaks into the Accord today is going to score big. There's a Magellan RoadMate 760 on the dash, an 80GB iPod Classic plugged into a Griffin iTrip, and a W810i (the latter two in the centre console). In the trunk is a Toshiba Tecra M5. It's a really safe campus though, a couple of my friends don't even bother locking the cars.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 02:27:13 PM
Whoever breaks into the Accord today is going to score big. There's a Magellan RoadMate 760 on the dash, an 80GB iPod Classic plugged into a Griffin iTrip, and a W810i (the latter two in the centre console). In the trunk is a Toshiba Tecra M5. It's a really safe campus though, a couple of my friends don't even bother locking the cars.
To leave all that stuff out in the open is retarded, Tepid.
Quote from: CALL_911 on November 27, 2007, 02:46:38 PM
To leave all that stuff out in the open is retarded, Tepid.
It's not in the open, idiot. I said the phone and iPod were in the centre console and the laptop was in the trunk. GPS was on the dash though.
Quote from: TheIntrepid on November 27, 2007, 02:12:15 PM
The 'r0lla's pretty tossable, so I wouldn't call it WORTHLESS. :lol:
Piece of crap, defs.
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This rock is tossable, but that does that make it worth anything?
So just as I figured the body shop found a way to fuck it up...
I went and looked at it supposedly "finished" last night.
Bad things I noticed (in order):
- Polishing compound residue all in by the door mirror rubber, nothing says new quite like white compound everywhere
- More polishing residue in fender/A-pillar gap, at first glance makes the alignment of the fender look off.
- Light scratches on the black leading part of the mirror and one on the hood
- Clearcoat overspray about the size of a postage stamp on the hood near the window
- At first glance the fender repair looks OK, until you look a little closer and can see a couple underlying ripples showing through in reflection.
At that point I just stopped looking for shit.
Just talked to the service manager and asked him if he had looked at the car since it came back, he said "yeah, looks great". I'm like really? Because I was there last night and it didn't look all that great to me.
I await his call back before I decide whether or not to tell my mom to just call her fucking insurance company and then call Toyota Canada and Toyota Finance (car is leased) to let them know what has transpired.
Actually I think I may call the latter two right now since the fuckhead service manager hasn't called me back and its been about 30min now.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on November 30, 2007, 08:10:46 AM
So just as I figured the body shop found a way to fuck it up...
I went and looked at it supposedly "finished" last night.
Bad things I noticed (in order):
- Polishing compound residue all in by the door mirror rubber, nothing says new quite like white compound everywhere
- More polishing residue in fender/A-pillar gap, at first glance makes the alignment of the fender look off.
- Light scratches on the black leading part of the mirror and one on the hood
- Clearcoat overspray about the size of a postage stamp on the hood near the window
- At first glance the fender repair looks OK, until you look a little closer and can see a couple underlying ripples showing through in reflection.
At that point I just stopped looking for shit.
Just talked to the service manager and asked him if he had looked at the car since it came back, he said "yeah, looks great". I'm like really? Because I was there last night and it didn't look all that great to me.
I await his call back before I decide whether or not to tell my mom to just call her fucking insurance company and then call Toyota Canada and Toyota Finance (car is leased) to let them know what has transpired.
Actually I think I may call the latter two right now since the fuckhead service manager hasn't called me back and its been about 30min now.
So what happened?
Quote from: HotRodPilot on December 14, 2007, 11:45:42 AM
So what happened?
I stopped in at the dealership and had a talk with the service manager who wasn't such a dick in person.
They had cleaned up all the compound and managed to polish out the spot on the hood that was bugging me.
Had they done this BEFORE they first called us to come pick up the car, I probably wouldn't have looked any closer at the car.
I mentioned to him that they (as a customer of the body shop) should have not accepted it like that in the first place. It wasn't their job to clean the thing up.
The only thing left is the fender itself. The repair is actually quite decent. It lines up along the back of the headlight and along the bumper good as new. There is still a little ripple in the paint work roughly in the center of that area, but they must have polished that area as well as it is more difficult to see now.
All in all I calmed down significantly after talking to this guy face to face and going over the car with him. You will have to look closely now to notice anything.
My mom thinks it looks great and she will probably demo it back up again anyway so thats the end of that...
I would've taken the $850 and lived with the damage if that was possible.
Quote from: Raghavan on December 14, 2007, 12:12:25 PM
I would've taken the $850 and lived with the damage if that was possible.
And drive around a 2yr old car with that obvious body damage?
I'm sorry I can't understand that point of view. This wasn't about trying to gain anything, simply about leaving there with what we came with.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on December 14, 2007, 01:41:34 PM
And drive around a 2yr old car with that obvious body damage?
I'm sorry I can't understand that point of view. This wasn't about trying to gain anything, simply about leaving there with what we came with.
But did you?
You may very well suffer a second loss for this when you trade the car off. Cars in accidents, even minor ones, are often seen as having a lower resale and hence lower tradein value.
You might want to consider asking for money to cover the diminished value.
An example: My wifes 02 Mustang convertible was rearended. Repairs came to under $2,000. The car was repaired properly, no external sign of damage. When we traded it off a year later we wqent to Carmax for an offer (good to have an idea of what someone will give you in cash when you are tallking to another dealer about a trade in). Carfax looked at the cr and could spot the signs of a repair, they refused to buy it. The dealer taking it in trade didn't look as closely. No guarantee that won't always happen though.
Quote from: etypejohn on December 14, 2007, 01:50:12 PM
But did you?
You may very well suffer a second loss for this when you trade the car off. Cars in accidents, even minor ones, are often seen as having a lower resale and hence lower tradein value.
You might want to consider asking for money to cover the diminished value.
An example: My wifes 02 Mustang convertible was rearended. Repairs came to under $2,000. The car was repaired properly, no external sign of damage. When we traded it off a year later we wqent to Carmax for an offer (good to have an idea of what someone will give you in cash when you are tallking to another dealer about a trade in). Carfax looked at the cr and could spot the signs of a repair, they refused to buy it. The dealer taking it in trade didn't look as closely. No guarantee that won't always happen though.
Oh no, I know that we still got hosed if only slightly.
I would have put more effort into it if I knew she would appreciate it but quite frankly she wouldn't have.
Hopefully in 2yrs time when she trades it it (shes not that crazy about it), it will fly under the radar and she'll have a whole new car to fuck up. The dent she managed to get in the drivers quarter panel will probably distract anyone looking at it.
Quote from: NACar on November 27, 2007, 05:25:20 PM
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This rock is tossable, but that does that make it worth anything?
Depends on what's in the rock. :lol: