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Auto Talk => The Big Guys => Topic started by: cawimmer430 on January 23, 2008, 07:24:43 AM

Title: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: cawimmer430 on January 23, 2008, 07:24:43 AM
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                             Porsche /  MB /    VW

Drive/chassis
Engine characteristics:    39    40    30
Beschleunigung/Vmax:        28    29    25
Intermediate spurt:        16    20    14
Handling:            40    38      37
Driving fun:           30    30      22
Driving noises:        5    7    8
Sound:                   18      20      10
Travelling comfort:        16    18    17
Transmission/circuit:        28    29    28
Steering element/turning circle:29    29    25
Brakes:                22    19    15

Total score: (600 max)      443     441     423

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Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: Tave on January 23, 2008, 09:19:51 AM
GTS w/ a 6-speed stick, ja?

I'd hit that. I'd also want some meatier tires on it, and some way to protect as much of the lowerbody as possible. I don't know how that would happen.
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: the Teuton on January 23, 2008, 12:33:38 PM
Is the GTS a turbo model?
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: Tave on January 23, 2008, 12:41:33 PM
Quote from: the Teuton on January 23, 2008, 12:33:38 PM
Is the GTS a turbo model?

I believe it's slotted between the (normal) S and Turbo. It's not a Turbo, but it might have a slightly more power than the S.
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: LonghornTX on January 23, 2008, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: Tave on January 23, 2008, 12:41:33 PM
I believe it's slotted between the (normal) S and Turbo. It's not a Turbo, but it might have a slightly more power than the S.
400hp IIRC compared to 385 for the normal S
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: Colonel Cadillac on January 23, 2008, 03:35:45 PM
Great pictures! I'm not too surprised the Porsche won either.
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 23, 2008, 06:41:09 PM
I don't see how the Touareg and Cayenne are slotted to COMPETE with each other with such huge price gaps?
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: cawimmer430 on January 24, 2008, 06:35:26 AM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 23, 2008, 06:41:09 PM
I don't see how the Touareg and Cayenne are slotted to COMPETE with each other with such huge price gaps?

This isn't a regular Touareg, this is the R50.  :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 24, 2008, 07:20:54 AM
Quote from: cawimmer430 on January 24, 2008, 06:35:26 AM
This isn't a regular Touareg, this is the R50.  :ohyeah:

Thank you Captain Obvious. Still, it's like putting a loaded Accord EX-L with engine mods versus an Acura TL Type-S. :huh:
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: Panama Jack on January 24, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
Id get the VW. Best looking and I'd never get this type of veh for performance  anyways.
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: TheIntrepid on January 24, 2008, 04:12:22 PM
Just give me a Touareg with a V10 TDI and I'm set. I agree with Jack, I wouldn't buy any of these for performance.
Title: Re: Autobild: Porsche Cayenne GTS vs MB ML 63 AMG vs VW Touareg R50
Post by: cawimmer430 on January 25, 2008, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: TheIntrepid on January 24, 2008, 07:20:54 AM
Thank you Captain Obvious. Still, it's like putting a loaded Accord EX-L with engine mods versus an Acura TL Type-S. :huh:

Honda / Acura...same thing.  :huh:

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